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Peer Claims 'Foundation X' Will Pay UK Debt

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posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 06:06 AM
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Originally posted by thoughtsfull
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Shame you can't somehow merge threads,

but they both (or all 3) seem to have a certain flavour of their own


Which makes the discussion (for me anyway) more interesting



As it stands you've probably spent the most time looking into this. Where do you stand now?



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 07:16 AM
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Right, sorry about that - I always do a face palm when people don't read the entire post and then make comments - I did just that - I read your post but didn't watch the clip before I started doing some research for myself.. anyways what I am getting from it - they are commercial and international in nature and the reason they are doing it is because all their wealth won't be worth much if the global economy completely crashed - which is more than likely would if a powerhouse like UK went under.

Now, is that the real reason or just a front for something more sinister..

Anyways, sorry OP didn't want to steal your thunder - I was sleepy, didn't pay enough attention and just trying to add to the conversation.



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 08:15 AM
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Since it's not an end of the world thread.. I've had a lot of fun
and enjoyed chatting
throwing theories about..

One of the things I wonder is, Did Lord Blackheath (Tory) leak details of this organisation out of desperation to get the Gov to act, or did he leak it out on behalf of the Gov to see how we would react!

Tho I am still :puzz: as to who it could be, I can not help but feel that whoever Foundation X are, they are legit and have the assets they claim. (Tho I am not sure of their motives)

I do feel the doddery old git that is Lord James is not only not a fool, but also has considerable connections (long standing) within the city/establishment/secret service to get the answers he wants.

So I feel him not only perfect to investigate the legitimacy of the funds but is the right person from a Governments perspective to spill the beans
Lord Sassoons comments and the Govs lack of interest seems too planned. So I am erring on the side that this was a purposeful Government leak.

Anyway I've come to a couple of conclusions as to who this org could represent, my first [that I'm verging on discounting now] is that maybe this org was set up around the great depression, perhaps with the overall aim of preventing another great depression?.. for want of a better word an elitist self interest group that has remained in the shadows all these years preparing itself for the type of situation we face today. I would call it the bankers insurance policy


But it feels rather far fetched as the target of their investment does not shout Banker/Finance group out to save the world, it shouts someone either wanting really great PR and/or be seen as the saviour (not in the context of end time type predictions)

Now that could be anyone.. given the state of the World, It could be any/all of the Arabian [Persian] Gulf states wanting a safe haven to turn to when the SHTF or to create a moral obligation to ensure support when the SHTF.

If you want a moral obligation, hospitals and schools certainly scores a lot of brownie points in your favour.. as does the no interest.. and almost flippant no need to repay the debt...

The time line fits the wealth coming from finding oil.. and it fits in the type of wealth oil nations have, and we have been told by Lord Blackheath that it is not funny money, nor is it terrorist funds (he went out of his way to qualify his expertise in that area) I take that as the possibility we might see them as terrorists..

And it was that last conclusion that leaves me feeling (as of now) that this Foundation represents 1 or more of the Gulf States.



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 08:54 AM
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Originally posted by Muzeam
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Well, this is very interesting in relation to financial institutions only succeeding through debt.

In other words if the debt system in the UK was paid off then the big bankers would be like a trillion in debt as once banking entity as it seems.

All The Major Players in the Banking Industry our tied up in money knots. That's their real wealth as it's all tied into the rest of the world's debt.

If 75 Billion were to pay off UK debt than that would cause a chain reaction of Bankers basically going straight to hell in a hand basket.

Well, what everyone has to ask themselves is do you really think we need this Financially Elite. Do you punk?
Do you really want to work and support your enslavement and a nice slave retirement?

Really! That's what you're all doing working supporting the Financially Elite by propping them up through the Engineered Banking Debt System ( EBDS). As long as no one pays off the debt of the UK them won't be destroyed. It's a chain reaction.

My Plan Folks. Pull out all your fake credit now and put it into something real.

Buy Gold, Silver and Platinum coins, food stock and tools.

Seriously Folks, invest in something real, invest in your self and your families well being.


Thanks for Reading, MUZEAM=Peace



Thanks for this post, Muzeam. I don't have much of a handle on the intricacies of how the banking system works, but I'm learning! So, your comment that the big banks would collapse if the debt was repaid reminded me of something I read recently, which directly links to your statement.

I didn't keep the link, and don't have the time right now to search for it again, but basically, it said that the UK and US are actualy bankrupt, and that they have been for a long time. And, apparently after 70 years the debts are written of and they are no longer bankrupt. And guess when the latest 70 year period was about to end? 2008. So, the article was suggesting that the economic crisis which reached crescendo point in 2008 was engineered to do just as you say - create more debt and get the countries back into bankruptcy to save the banksters. This might explain the inordinate spending which has been going on - to run up the debt quickly again to keep the banksters' ponzi scheme going for another 70 year cycle. And, since the governments are the puppeteers of the banksters, perhaps this is also why there have been so few legal charges made against them.


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posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 10:22 AM
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Interesting news from the House of Lords . I would like to take this oppertunity to thank OP for bringing this to the attention of the membership.
This offer , made under the dubious banner of having no strings attatched seems to good to be true. And Im betting that it is. There must be a reason why the Lords would have chucked the idea. Perhaps the House of Lords are well enough informed to know that who ever is bank rolling this offer, is more than likely to want something back , and that with the amounts being discussed, that payment, that backhander is likely to be more pain than its worth.
Besides which , even if the Lords were happy with the idea of paying off this "no strings" gift, they would be hard pressed to legitimise the idea of having Britain run on money which we cannot track the source of .
People need to know how the government and the nation are funded , whos providing what to whom. If this Foundation X were to become involved, they couldnt remain shadows for long .



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 10:30 AM
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Me too. I posted the video on my facebook page and the page of my local news paper. didnt get one reply. not evan from the news paper. Yet if id have posted something about X factor on my page or the news paper page I would of got a bag load of reply's. ZOMBIES!
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posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by ThePeopleParty
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Me too. I posted the video on my facebook page and the page of my local news paper. didnt get one reply. not evan from the news paper. Yet if id have posted something about X factor on my page or the news paper page I would of got a bag load of reply's. ZOMBIES!
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spot on... that's exactly how people seem, and angry zombies when they are driving, walking or down the local supermarket
[atleast that is what it feels like down here
]



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 11:10 AM
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A bit of info on Lord James of Blackheath.(some links are to wiki)

en.wikipedia.org...

en.wikipedia.org... < found this part a little interesting.

Below is part of the lords adress and what the speaker says when the lord talks vatican.

He had tapped into the sources that are available and there is only one definitive source for the amount of bullion that has ever been taken from the earth's crust. That was a National Geographic magazine article 12 years ago. Whatever figure it was that was quoted was then quoted again on six other sites on the internet—on Google. Everyone is quoting one original source; there is no other confirming authority. But if you tap into the Vatican accounts—of the Vatican bank--— come up with a claim of total bullion—

Lord De Mauley [Government Whip]: The noble Lord is into his fifteenth minute. I wonder whether he can draw his remarks to a conclusion.

www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk... he-ira-14995248.html

www.theyworkforyou.com...

www.parliament.uk...

www.eurosource.eu.com...:%20Political%20Biography

Hope some one finds somehting of use in these leaks. sorry if some of them repeat the same storys.

thanks



posted on Nov, 7 2010 @ 03:24 AM
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Originally posted by ThePeopleParty
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Me too. I posted the video on my facebook page and the page of my local news paper. didnt get one reply. not evan from the news paper. Yet if id have posted something about X factor on my page or the news paper page I would of got a bag load of reply's. ZOMBIES!
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Forgive them, for they know not what they do


I don't believe that Federation X will just go away, it's best to stay one step ahead by contemplating the magnitude of whats occurred and understanding it's implications.

What do they want?

I can only imagine that they want: support or protection.

Who are they?

They represent: Companies or Countries.

If it was a group of company business men making this offer then It would never have been addressed in the House of Lords in my view.

Which leads me to speculate that Federation X represents a Country that needs diplomatic support and protection.

Yemen come to my mind but obviously this is just pure speculation.



posted on Nov, 7 2010 @ 04:14 AM
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Sorry if this has been posted yet,but This vid was made in Sept. but it could be the mysterious foundation x ...Jim and Max talk about a orginized group being able to take physical gold out of the system .... www.youtube.com...#! peace



posted on Nov, 7 2010 @ 11:57 AM
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Maybe BUT MAYBE they do only have 2 more years 2012 to play their cards and the various cabals are getting a bit worried about who is at the top, this does smell of desparate tactics.... for a portion of the 2000 players (thanks to proto for that) playing their ACE early, again ATS its a crazy as it want to be
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posted on Nov, 8 2010 @ 11:18 AM
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I think it might be the FED.

Now the dollar has still some value they can exchange dollars for pounds ,or any other currency for that matter, and lend it out to whom every wants to take , This way the loan will still maintain its value if the pound holds its ground on the world currency market,

Britain and the US have been economic and miltairy allies for some time now and this deal is beneficial for both and will stabilize britain for a little while longer until the S really hits the fan.

I think the FED is moving massive quantities of cash around as they are puposely killing the dollar to eridicate their debt and punch China in the gut at the same time.

Dark clouds are forming, shame there are only a few umbrellas,
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posted on Nov, 8 2010 @ 11:28 AM
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If its the FED then I for one hope the Lords stick a middle finger up at it, no offense meant. Taking a loan from the states would be like trying to rob an empty grave.



posted on Nov, 8 2010 @ 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by Fingersoup
reply to post by WatchRider
 


Right, sorry about that - I always do a face palm when people don't read the entire post and then make comments - I did just that - I read your post but didn't watch the clip before I started doing some research for myself.. anyways what I am getting from it - they are commercial and international in nature and the reason they are doing it is because all their wealth won't be worth much if the global economy completely crashed - which is more than likely would if a powerhouse like UK went under.

Now, is that the real reason or just a front for something more sinister..

Anyways, sorry OP didn't want to steal your thunder - I was sleepy, didn't pay enough attention and just trying to add to the conversation.


It's cool man, I do the same thing myself from time to time.
Wasn't being jabby or nasty to you mate, just pointing it out man


One thing I am still unclear of is which part of the video is where the peer says 'I was on the side of angels...'
I'm wondering if the media either added that themselves or I've missed the part on the video where he says it...



posted on Nov, 8 2010 @ 12:25 PM
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Rumor Mills has a post on it where the infamous Scorcha Fal says that Foundation X according to Russian intelligence are remenants of the Knights Templers.



posted on Nov, 8 2010 @ 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by keldas
Rumor Mills has a post on it where the infamous Scorcha Fal says that Foundation X according to Russian intelligence are remenants of the Knights Templers.

Its funny as i was just thinking the same thing...."Foundation X" is the Knights templar, the Illuminati...What other organisation can it be???
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posted on Nov, 8 2010 @ 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by keldas
Rumor Mills has a post on it where the infamous Scorcha Fal says that Foundation X according to Russian intelligence are remenants of the Knights Templers.


Scorcha Fal?

Who is that? Sounds like an insider?



posted on Nov, 8 2010 @ 08:14 PM
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I just posted this on the other thread relating to this subject matter but I'll post it here again as I feel it's of the most importance. People need to learn about what is happening right under their nose.

This is the shadow government - must read - bahai-library.com...


The Administrative Order is certainly the nucleus and pattern of the World Order of Baha'u'llah, but it is in embryonic form, and must undergo major evolutionary developments in the course of time. Certain passages in the writings on this subject establish matters of principle, certain ones describe the ultimate goal of the Most Great Peace, and certain of them relate to stages of development on the way to the attainment of that goal.


It is illuminati and it resembles the vatican because it is the same old Roman Empire, repackaged and served up as Bahai. Ta - Da!!



posted on Nov, 8 2010 @ 09:18 PM
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Dear Foundation X,

If the UK government will not accept your fantastic offer, i for one will.

Please deposit 5 billion into my account and i will disperse it accordingly.

Yours sincerely,

Cosmic...



posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 09:28 AM
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Are we just going to let them sweep this under the carpet?

Its all gone a bit quiet, What if we dont take the offer? Are they going to offer the cash to someone els?



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