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Did somebody just try to buy the British government?

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posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke

Originally posted by thoughtsfull
BTW the link a just below that says Hansard is a link the official transcription of the speech given by Lord Blackheath in the House of Lords. There is a recording of the televised version of the speech knocking around.. not sure if that is enough gravitas for you

Not really, we have all sorts of idiots in the House of Lords, and it's all televised. At the end of the day, he hasn't presented a shred of evidence for this bizzare story, and lots of it doesn't add up.

Sounds like he's been hoaxed...that's why people were laughing.


And the fact that two other lords also stated that they were aware of the investigation, and had facilitated it? All on record?

And you think that Foundation X are hoaxing someone who ran multi-million pound money washing operations for British secret services? You can't kid a kidder.
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posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 11:16 AM
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They interviewed Lord James on Sky News about it and appeared to take him seriously.



posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 11:28 AM
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Here is the Sky News interview:

Sky News

Love the reference to the Marshall Plan. It is a very similar concept I guess.



posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 11:30 AM
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here it is.

news.sky.com... 0992_Lord+Blackheath+Talks+'Foundation+X'&videoCategory=Latest+Video

Sorry didnt notice the post above me.
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posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 11:32 AM
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The whole thing is pretty amazing really.. is the world in the verge of something that is forcing this shadow type foundation to act (in self interest?)

and how many other nations have they approached? or I should say how many nations would fit the "security clearance equal to the top 6 people in the world" rules they seem to apply in dealing with anyone outside their foundation.

Quite bizarre.


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posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 11:37 AM
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Iv tried to look up who are the top 6 people in the world but cant find anything. The top 10 rich people in the world dont seam to have enough money to do this though.

en.wikipedia.org...
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posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 11:42 AM
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I know, I still can't quite work out what it really means. I kinda took it to mean the security clearance of a certain type of head of state.. sounds like they are a paranoid organisation tho.
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posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 11:46 AM
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In a sense the UK economy has already been bought and payed for by the Rotschilds in the first world war. He had a scout send a false report stating the UK had lost the war. The stock market crashed and he bought up everything for pennies on the pound. Could be a comparable move by a new organisation. (or them again for that matter)



posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 11:58 AM
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Prime Minister Balfour 1902 - 05, routinely indulged and stimulated the idea of a confederation with the United States. Wrote numerous letters to the then US President (Theodore Roosevelt) on the matter. At the turn of the 20th Century, British nobility and the most influential imperialists argued for inflitration into the American elite - to ensure it always supported the position of the British.

Many wealth families integrated into American society.

As I said, the power is coming home. It's mission has been fulfilled. America has served its purpose for the British establishment. Next course of action is to coerce and persuade the reconstruction of the European nobilty to increase Anglosphere influence in the European Union. Why else have we signed a military pact with France and economic trade alliance with Germany...

Also, someone is rapidly buying up our bonds - and it's not the British government or the Bank of England. The Treasury has already met its borrow costs for the year. Someone has given them the money.
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posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by Smokersroom

And the fact that two other lords also stated that they were aware of the investigation, and had facilitated it? All on record?

Wouldn't be the first time that more than one old bloke was fooled.



And you think that Foundation X are hoaxing someone who ran multi-million pound money washing operations for British secret services?

So he says. I think he's a fantasist.

Until anyone can show me a shred of actual evidence to corroborate his story, I'll assume hoax.

I mean, it doesn't stack up: an organisation with more gold than has ever been mined wants to lend a rather piffling £17bn for UK infrastructure. This seems to suggest that some fairly rich (though not as rich as Bill Gates) aliens would like to put some money into London's Crossrail project


If they just want to lend money, then why not do it like everyone else and buy government bonds?



posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by infinite

Also, someone is rapidly buying up our bonds

They are bought and sold all the time on the bond markets, so I'm not sure what you mean?



- and it's not the British government or the Bank of England.

Well, during Quantitative easing, the Bank did buy it's own bonds.



The Treasury has already met its borrow costs for the year. Someone has given them the money.

What money?



posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 12:51 PM
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The Bank of England did not buy it's own bonds, that was forbade by the EU, under the Maastricht Treaty. Corporate paper and bonds were brought from corporations - not directly from the government. Plus, there has been a massive uptake of UK Gilts since the formation of the coalition.



posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 01:40 PM
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I bet Foundation X isnt of this world.



posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 01:43 PM
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It is.

The six individuals, being questioned, are humans and not associated to some wild ET theory



posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 03:31 PM
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I apologize if this has come up all ready. Im only on page three reading and I know this is a terrible reach, but the odd thing that popped in my head was, can anyone say St. Germain, and NESARA? I know it is probably off the wall, but it has been floating around for awhile.



posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 03:50 PM
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It wouldnt be freud if it was done legally.
like football clubs on a bigger scale.
Is the speaaker involved because someone suspects something dodge maybe?
T



posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 05:37 PM
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This could be a ploy to corner the world gold market.If the British government accept the deal with its 5 billion carrot, they are effectively acknowledging the existence of at least double the currently assumed amount of gold in the world.

This would send prices plumetting.People would instantly start losing a fortune and dumping gold like crazy.

Then Goldman Suchs could nip in and buy it all up for peanuts creating a monopoly that easily covers their little 5 even 17 billion dollar show of faith.



posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by thoughtsfull
Great points.. I just can not help but wonder on this one.. the kicker for me is the "bullion" remark.. I mean, how would disclosure of this extra bullion help, wouldn't it simply drive down the value of gold? (perhaps that is the con, drive down the price of gold?)

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It really depends on how the gold is to be used. The Euro unlike the US dollar uses gold explicitly as a monetary reserve asset.

A large amount of gold could be extremely useful if for example the current international reserve currency (US Dollar) were to collapse and the Eurozone were to attempt to step into that role.

If you are familiar with FOFOA, his newest post goes into some great detail on how/why that could happen.



posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by candide

Originally posted by thoughtsfull
Great points.. I just can not help but wonder on this one.. the kicker for me is the "bullion" remark.. I mean, how would disclosure of this extra bullion help, wouldn't it simply drive down the value of gold? (perhaps that is the con, drive down the price of gold?)

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It really depends on how the gold is to be used. The Euro unlike the US dollar uses gold explicitly as a monetary reserve asset.

A large amount of gold could be extremely useful if for example the current international reserve currency (US Dollar) were to collapse and the Eurozone were to attempt to step into that role.

If you are familiar with FOFOA, his newest post goes into some great detail on how/why that could happen.



Interesting, thanks
but the disclosure of what is I'm guessing is 7 Trillion (calculated elsewhere from the volume given in the speech) would certainly provide a real asset to pegs ones currency to, but wouldn't doing that create a tipping point and unhinge the markets globally.



posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 07:06 PM
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Yes, You are completely right. I cant imagine how they could possibly use that much gold without serious global ramifications. If it exists, it is a massive financial weapon as gold is used in very unique ways from other commodities.

The point I was trying to make was way more speculative in that there is also a potential to use it as a tool to re-hinge and remake the global markets in a post catastrophic world financial situation. In the process greatly changing the global power balance.

People connected at those levels would surely know if the titanic were on its way down long before the rabble.



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