Taking Harder Stance Toward China, Obama Lines Up Allies

Taking Harder Stance Toward China, Obama Lines Up Allies

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WASHINGTON — The Obama administration, facing a vexed relationship with China on exchange rates, trade, and security issues, is stiffening its approach toward Beijing, seeking allies to confront a newly assertive power that officials now say has little intention of working with the United States.

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Interesting article. Thought I'd post it for y'all.

"Administration officials speak of an alarming loss of trust and confidence between China and the United States over the last two years, forcing them to scale back hopes of working with the Chinese on major challenges like climate change, nuclear nonproliferation, and a new global economic order."

Notice.. "new global economic order"

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I wonder if China can spot us a few hundred billion so we can fight them economically.

Frankly, what America needs to do is start taking notes from China...they are doing something right considering their economy just keeps growing powerful and stable..

not saying we need to go full socialist, but eventually, you gotta look at what the other guy is doing if he is having consistant good results.

as far as the new global economic order...so...what, you think the current one is working great?

yeah I noticed that. Its been wide spread news that China has been making maneuvers to become the leading empire of the globe. With missile testing, ( which has Japan at alarm ) and the blatant disregard to some of our requests, as well as other countries requests, whether it be the currency issues, or military issues, they've been flaunting their strength at every turn. I think the count down started many years ago.

Not at all. I'm just hoping it will be the good new world order not the occult dark evil illuminati NWO

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Only problem is, the NWO is a faction of the illuminati, De Solay, Free Masons etc.....no matter what NWO is in power, you better believe that all of the secret organizations will be affiliates of the group. Hell, even prominent members of the Builder Burg Group will be in power as well!

Originally posted by Rahjian
Not at all. I'm just hoping it will be the good new world order not the occult dark evil illuminati NWO

Again, the current world order sorta sucks, with wars and financial issues, the corporate elite owning almost everything while the rest of us schmucks run around biting each other for scraps...

not really sure how it can get much worse frankly...we need to change the current world order into something new and a bit more equal...
people on these boards spend much time fighting the NWO concept, not realizing they are fighting for the CWO...which is pretty much as dark as you can imagine..

Bring on a NWO...call your politicians, blog about it..demand it...take part in its formation and demand transparency..or be a victim to the elite designing how it unfolds...there is no stopping it, only potentially influencing how it is developed.

and stopping it isn't a good idea anyhow

All Americans need to learn how to bow like our president, because when our supreme Chinese landlords move in to collect the debt, you need to be ready to assume the proper position.

Obama had better remember who has funded a great deal of his agendas.

Don't want to piss off your debt holders like this, now do you Mr. President?

Maybe you should just go ahead and give them Texas and make them happy now, besides it is full of racists and right wing "teepartiers" anyway, no great loss to the new America you have envisioned.

Come now, you give Obama far too much credit. Overspending a superpower into the poor house is beyond the ability of any one president. It takes sustained stupidity over many years. Its been a true national team effort.

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Yup, and if someone doesn't hit the "reset" button soon, I think really bad things are on the horizon! For all!!!

Its interesting because the Nostradamus prediction for the third world war apparently points to old enemies aligning against a new threat from the east. I remember reading this 25 years ago at least and people then thought it meant NATO aligning with Russia against China. This was back when the wall was still up in Berlin and the cold war very much on. Not that I believe these predictions but I just thought I would throw this in there...

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Wow ... I agree with you saturn... (looks for the four horsemen)

The NWO that's always just around the corner keeps people in their basements lovingly cleaning their guns and gazing at their food cache while doing NOTHING to stop the Current Atrocities because they're saving their strength for a takeover that already happened.

These people are smart does anyone really believe they'd be STUPID enough to provide a black and white Polarizing in your face incident that could be used as a rallying cry? Are we not so factionalized and splintered into special interest groups that there truly is no SINGLE event that could really do that anymore?

Wake up guys THE NWO is like concept cars... (an unrealistic overhyping of speculative future models of STUFF THAT ALREADY EXISTS)

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Wow ... I agree with you saturn... (looks for the four horsemen)

The NWO that's always just around the corner keeps people in their basements lovingly cleaning their guns and gazing at their food cache while doing NOTHING to stop the Current Atrocities because they're saving their strength for a takeover that already happened.

These people are smart does anyone really believe they'd be STUPID enough to provide a black and white Polarizing in your face incident that could be used as a rallying cry? Are we not so factionalized and splintered into special interest groups that there truly is no SINGLE event that could really do that anymore?

Wake up guys THE NWO is like concept cars... (an unrealistic overhyping of speculative future models of STUFF THAT ALREADY EXISTS)

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I really really hope my country is smart enough to stay out of whatever form this confrontation takes, and say nothing about it. But that's probably not going to happen.

Originally posted by belial259
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I really really hope my country is smart enough to stay out of whatever form this confrontation takes, and say nothing about it. But that's probably not going to happen.

I hate to bust your day but whatever country you live in is going to be involved. If the US, Russia, and China get involved in something, the rest of the world is going to be pulled in to it and put on sides. Let's just hope that this just doesn't happen -_- lol.

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Well even a trade war with China would be bad for Australia. They are one of our largest trading partners. And Clinton will be coming to Australia on this trip, if it happens.

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A lot of people just don't understand, with the worlds market intertwined into one big account, and with "ties" linked between one country to the next, if one falls the others will fall. Case in point, when Greece declared Bankruptcy, all the markets dropped drastically. i was watching it on tv when it happened. Next thing you know other countries including the US swooped in to help bail them out. Why? Because they know too, what would happen if all involving countries allowed one of the global entities to fall. But I guess they think we're to stupid to figure that out?

Originally posted by SaturnFX
I wonder if China can spot us a few hundred billion so we can fight them economically.

Frankly, what America needs to do is start taking notes from China...they are doing something right considering their economy just keeps growing powerful and stable..

not saying we need to go full socialist, but eventually, you gotta look at what the other guy is doing if he is having consistant good results.

as far as the new global economic order...so...what, you think the current one is working great?

China isnt doing as well as ppl believe... they are also on the brink of collapse..... watch and see

Originally posted by roguetechie
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Wow ... I agree with you saturn... (looks for the four horsemen)

The NWO that's always just around the corner keeps people in their basements lovingly cleaning their guns and gazing at their food cache while doing NOTHING to stop the Current Atrocities because they're saving their strength for a takeover that already happened.

These people are smart does anyone really believe they'd be STUPID enough to provide a black and white Polarizing in your face incident that could be used as a rallying cry? Are we not so factionalized and splintered into special interest groups that there truly is no SINGLE event that could really do that anymore?

Wake up guys THE NWO is like concept cars... (an unrealistic overhyping of speculative future models of STUFF THAT ALREADY EXISTS)

Killuminati... cmon you are placing them in deity levels by basically saying they are too smart to make mistakes.... Illuminati would want you to believe they are omnipotent but they are not and they cannot control the stock market only manipulate it.... the NWO, Illuminati, Masons and etc. are all ploys to keep your self esteem down... that is the source of their control.... it is UP TO US! to live our lives and not be herded by wolves who are to weak to slaughter the fold.... they will go as far as we allow and they know our silence is deafening.... they wish to provoke us and gauge our response and the potential of a SHTF scenario.... we are too strong now with all the knowledge we have... they know the end game is on them not us... relax and have faith an answer will present itself shortly

You know what, i just watched despatches on c4, and america have done some truely horrible things. Ok, China are flexing their muscles, and so they should. But you don't see China inading every country for oil do you? America seem to be bullies too me, and they are trying to bully China, and that will not work.

People may say China is this, and China is that, and in some cases, they are right. But people should look at america too, and the horrible things they have done before they condem China.