OMG! HUGE Cache of New 911 footage released !!!

Originally posted by Grifter.be
reply to post by FoosM

 

Dude, there is a big difference in something what we all saw on screen and a few thousand others in real life, and in something we only can see trough a screen and NOT IN REAL LIFE...

I think that was my whole point.
There is a big difference in what we all see on screen vs a few others see in real life.

Where is the line between tv fiction and tv fact?
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At any rate, where do you get this few thousand figure if it relates to 911?
A few thousand people saw a plane hit the second tower? Where do you get those stats?
Cause frankly, I question the possibility, for several reasons:
The amount of smoke blocking the view of the approach.
People's attention on the other tower.
The fact that other tall buildings reduce visibility.
The fact that the "plane" approached from a body of water and travelled an incredible speed.
And we know seem to have another plane in the air.

This is not about the towers, but an analysis on Pentagon attack witnesses.
But the same reasoning can be used.

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"My people have been lost sheep. Their shepherds have led them astray."
- Jeremiah 50:6a

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by HYADEAN2025

 

Oh, yeah!! SO convincing..... (can you detect the sarcasm???)

Jessica Miller, in first video...."There are 35 high definition cameras..."

THIRTY-FIVE CAMERAS!!!!!

Give me a break and come back to Earth (and reality).......

Dude. that's what THEY TOLD HER lol is more to that.

And what You Know about Reality ? U can't even do your own research

on the things i post. u just talk with knowing

It's not like people just decided one day that the plane was a hologram.Here's a few reasons why people believe this.

1-The wing disappearing in so many videos can't be by coincidence OR scratched off as a glitch or pixels.
2-The plane penetrating the building without no resistance whatsoever..it penetrated THEN exploded.How do the soft wings of the plane(where the fuel is stored)penetrate concrete an steel and more concrete and steel..oh and then the core columns..wouldn't they just explode on compact?You know the official story suggest the wings cut the core columns.In my opinion NO core columns were cut by the wings!
3-If you look closely at the plane in all the videos you can see a few of them have a holographic glow to them..just like the CNN video.


I personally think it was a laser guided missile with hologram wings.

Why not use a real plane you ask?When it comes to a crime of this magnitude,nothing can be left to chance.They can't have no "what ifs".Like what if the plane exploded on the outside when it hit?Or what if the "terrorists" who have NEVER FLOWN a 757 before in their lives miss their targets?There's no training that teaches you how to fly planes into buildings at top speeds.

Remember we don't know exactly how they did it we just know they are lying about how it was done.There is tons of evidence of a cover-up and that alone should be enough to call for a new proper investigation.

Just listen for a second..The best way to get away with something is to do the crime in such a way that no one will believe it.

Like..we're going to plan a terrorist attack..on our own people..then say it was someone else..we'll say Arabs hijacked planes and flew them into the towers..it's believable because we always heard Arabs were terrorists growing up through the media and movies..then we'll set up explosives in the towers to make sure they fall..People will think Arabs hijacked planes and flew them into the towers and they will think that's the reason they fell.But in reality missiles were used for the "planes" and explosives were used to bring the towers down.

But who's going to believe the government would do such a thing?And holograms??..."you've been watching too many Sci-Fi movies"..most famous reply.

Naw the government wouldn't do things like that.We live in a perfect world where nothing bad ever happens...this is heaven.Yes the sarcasm is strong with this one.

Although this is a step in the right direction....

I wish they'd release the massive amounts of camera footage that was confiscated from all of the cctv cameras that were on and around the Pentagon.

That would be an "OMG HUGE!!!" event.

I've seen enough of the buildings in Manhatten being hit by planes, while simultaneously Control Demo'd, personally.

reply to post by ExPostFacto


I agree there were a lot of fishy things about 9/11, however, as far as the missing wing(s) go, in one video, the right wing seems to disappear, but in another video, the left wing seems to disappear. This is on the same plane. Obviously something is wrong, and I do not believe that holography, even of the black budget variety, is advanced enough to do such things. If you look closely, the apparent disappearances were all due to reflection of light from the wings (which are made of shiny aluminum), the sky and the building, as the angle changed with respect to the camera. You can tell there are corresponding reflections on the tail.

Originally posted by sorgfelt
reply to post by ExPostFacto

 

I agree there were a lot of fishy things about 9/11, however, as far as the missing wing(s) go, in one video, the right wing seems to disappear, but in another video, the left wing seems to disappear. This is on the same plane. Obviously something is wrong, and I do not believe that holography, even of the black budget variety, is advanced enough to do such things. If you look closely, the apparent disappearances were all due to reflection of light from the wings (which are made of shiny aluminum), the sky and the building, as the angle changed with respect to the camera. You can tell there are corresponding reflections on the tail.

I agree, holograms did not have to be used.
Only real time video manipulation.
That covers 99.99% of witnesses we call tv viewers.

Then the question is, what did people actually see who were on the ground?
Well lets look at we have.
I dont recall anyone claiming to see the first plane that the WTC.
Or what happened to the plane that crashed over in Pennsylvania.
That leaves the plane that hit the second WTC and the Pentagon.
In both cases eyewitness reports are all over the map.
From, seeing nothing to missiles, to small planes to jumbo jets.

In the case of the Pentagon, the documentary that I embedded in my last post shows that another plane could have been use as misdirection for an actual bombing or missile hit of the Pentagon.
The same could have been done with WTC 2.

Again, I cant help but deduce that the simplest explanation for all the anomalies, inconsistencies, and difficulties in pulling off a 911 is that most of us witnessed an event that was a combination of fact and fiction created by advanced real-time video software manipulation, or augmented reality software.

What really happened was either a combination of missile strikes coupled with bombs (shape charged to make it look like an airplane went through it,) or simply bombs.

The "no planes" theory is important to discuss because it means that the media is directly complicit.
If our media is complicit, then we as a society have a real BIG problem.
It means that we dont have the means to separate fact from fiction.
Then this is 1984 and the Internet is the #1 enemy of the state.

This is what we, the public, only 9 years after 2001, have access to

No planes theory has been completely debunked...please do your research, and do not ignore/discount the wealth of eyewitness'. It is a distraction from the legitimate 911 truth movement...

reply to post by jambatrumpet


Where was it debunked then? I have been here only a short time, would love to see that thread. I saw a few threads I read about september clues, and I saw no conclusive debunking there, just a lot of emotion and namecalling.

I wanted to let you all know that even more never before seen publicly 9-11 videos have been uploaded to the channel, less than a day ago.

I have not been through any of them yet but i will. For those of you who want to have a look through the brand new released videos. Here's the link.

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by Kemal


I don't know if it's been mentioned before, or if anyone noticed, but in this same video, if you follow the supposed trajectory of that object (seems like an helictopter that disappears into the clouds), at about 36 seconds you can see what seems like bursts of fire from within the clouds of smoke, just a few centimetres to the right of the tower, and then the same burst of fire in the tower itself. Exactly 10 seconds after, the plane appears on screen and crashes the tower!

You Really have to see this in Fullscreen otherwise you won't notice this bursts of fire (that's what it seems to me...)

Here is the link again

www.youtube.com...

Well i looked at the recent first one on the channel and wow...listen to what the cameraman is saying...and there is soooo much more...bout time......the OS was is and always has been full of S^*& and much of this just shows how so....keep looking people....the debunkers can quit there day jobs as they are going to be kept real busy....and pls....get hold of as much of it as you can before mysteriously the channel disappears.
i know i am.
the truth will come out you know...and the debunkers can all just stop with the crud.
Why would you want to even come close to believeing the OS is beyond me...but we who demand the truth will get it soon.

reply to post by ruidude


That video you posted has a lot more going on than you think bro.

First the guy seems to be making the quality crappy on purpose.And second he turns the camera so you have
a better view of the incoming plane...The camera man KNEW!!!

I thin the Naudet brothers knew too.The cameraman turned the camera towards the tower like he knew the plane was going to crash.If you search the videos and look closely you will see that in a lot of videos there are cameras pointed at the second tower as though whoever set them up knew it was going to get hit.

It's not just the wing,there are a million things wrong with 911.

reply to post by Conluceo


Building 7 was a demo.

NO steel building in history has ever collapsed from fire. Today 3 did.
WeAreChangeSF Confronts 9/11 Commissioner Richard Ben Veniste - ADMITS COVER-UP
www.youtube.com...

BUILDING 7 WAS A DEMO
www.youtube.com...

HOW DID WORLD TRADE CENTER 7 FALL?
www.youtube.com...

Has this been debunked yet? Oh. How about this website; another "peer-review" collection of articles? The search feature is pretty informative for researchers in the sciences field...

Link

another link

Originally posted by FoosM

Originally posted by sorgfelt
reply to post by ExPostFacto

 

I agree there were a lot of fishy things about 9/11, however, as far as the missing wing(s) go, in one video, the right wing seems to disappear, but in another video, the left wing seems to disappear. This is on the same plane. Obviously something is wrong, and I do not believe that holography, even of the black budget variety, is advanced enough to do such things. If you look closely, the apparent disappearances were all due to reflection of light from the wings (which are made of shiny aluminum), the sky and the building, as the angle changed with respect to the camera. You can tell there are corresponding reflections on the tail.

I agree, holograms did not have to be used.
Only real time video manipulation.
That covers 99.99% of witnesses we call tv viewers.

Then the question is, what did people actually see who were on the ground?
Well lets look at we have.
I dont recall anyone claiming to see the first plane that the WTC.
Or what happened to the plane that crashed over in Pennsylvania.
That leaves the plane that hit the second WTC and the Pentagon.
In both cases eyewitness reports are all over the map.
From, seeing nothing to missiles, to small planes to jumbo jets.

In the case of the Pentagon, the documentary that I embedded in my last post shows that another plane could have been use as misdirection for an actual bombing or missile hit of the Pentagon.
The same could have been done with WTC 2.

Again, I cant help but deduce that the simplest explanation for all the anomalies, inconsistencies, and difficulties in pulling off a 911 is that most of us witnessed an event that was a combination of fact and fiction created by advanced real-time video software manipulation, or augmented reality software.

What really happened was either a combination of missile strikes coupled with bombs (shape charged to make it look like an airplane went through it,) or simply bombs.

The "no planes" theory is important to discuss because it means that the media is directly complicit.
If our media is complicit, then we as a society have a real BIG problem.
It means that we dont have the means to separate fact from fiction.
Then this is 1984 and the Internet is the #1 enemy of the state.

This is what we, the public, only 9 years after 2001, have access to

well said!

star.

Matrix. 9/11!

Even though it's a good find, why didn't they get released before?

has this video been discussed?

:08 seconds you can see close up the structure turning to dust

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by allourep


Maybe not holograms, that's a bit drastic. Could be super-imposed over actual missile footage? Or perhaps even a those small 'plane-like' missiles they have out there painted similar to a plane? I don't know the actual names. Let's not discount those possibilities either. I am obviously no expert, but just throwing some suggestions out there!