OMG! HUGE Cache of New 911 footage released !!!

Apologies if someone noticed this at :39 in the first video.

What are the flashes going off on the top floors? They look like explosions to me. This was before the plane/missle/ufo even hit the building...

go to the :39 mark and go step by step and take a look.

reply to post by rokrep69


Could you specify which video, there have been several linked in this thread.

I know you said the first, do you mean the wide shot???

reply to post by TKDRL

a fighter jet crashing into a building

That video is a fake . I know this because I made the mistake of posting it once myself . Didn't take long for some sharp ATS members to set me straight on it . Just lettin' ya know , that's all .

reply to post by lellomackin


ya the first video 1:19 in length. Something is happening at :39 on the untouched tower. It took me a while to see it but it's there...I added the vid link above.

I downloaded it (480) with flashgot and am viewing it with media player classic home cinema btw

reply to post by Flighty


The perimeter box columns were 4-5 inches thick at the bottom of the towers . Towards the top however , the steel tapered down to a thickness of 1/4" .

This would explain how the airplane was able to slice into the building , instead of breaking up on initial impact with the perimeter surface .

reply to post by rokrep69



I saw a flash in that general area.
Im not going to say it was an explosion though.
Im not exactly sure what is is.

Anyone have an idea?

Would it not have to be a decent sized flash to be seen from a distance like this?

Cheers

reply to post by rokrep69


I see what you're talking about... I'm not sure, but it's not coming from the building itself. My first thought is that it's one of the helicopters flying around; you can see one fairly close to the tower when it collapses from one of the ABC videos, I believe.

reply to post by MrWendal


I was listening to this with headphones. There is no sound from the left speaker for a few seconds, the "explosion" is when sound starts from the left speaker. Maybe it was the microphone being plugged in or something.

reply to post by boondock-saint


Notice that the right wing of the aircraft is lit up brightly. Perhaps it could be compression that caused the wing to seemingly blend into the sky when the plane flies out of the shadow on the newer videos? I think we should upload the original file without compression? Other than that possibility, it is very sus.

Hope we got past the missing wings. If not, here is another clue




Look.. some of those politicians are without brains.. actually it looks fair to me

Originally posted by Highground

Notice the car not flying into a billion bits and pieces... Or even a few, for that matter.

Maybe thats because it went through the glass front in the bank.Not even a vaguely comparable collision to going through the skin of a WTC tower.

The truck pushes no masonry in ,only glass.And there is no structural debris in the truck bed or anywhere for that matter.

reply to post by MrWendal


just joking man, nothing personnal you know !! the only thing I wanted to say is we all have to try to push on all sides for knowing the truth !! no ?
anyway, why do you have to tell us that you need a break ? what has that to do with this tread ?
go take it but do not tell us you go to toilet or have a coffee ....
peace ! nothing personnal !

interesting vids...thanx

either the outer skin of the trade center was made out of magnesium or those fires were burning thermite. there just isnt any other way around it. NONE


i'd have to say that the planes were loaded with thermite

All I know is we can argue the symantics til the cows come home, but the next time I start a thread I'm gonna start it with" OMG!!!!!....."then maybe I'll get some attention.Is that even allowed?Imagine writing an article for the newspaper and starting it with that! Wouldn't even make it past the editors desk.No matter what the subject matter is.No disrespect intended, its just after all these years unless you thread about 911 or anything that moves in the sky, no one seems to care. Peace.

reply to post by boondock-saint

Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by okbmd
The "motive" for releasing this material , is that it was requested through the FOIA . Simple as that .

by WHOM???

and how do you have
this knowledge???

ur sources please???
thanks

Two posters have mentioned this, Conscope on page 3 and kloejen on page 7:

post by Conscope

Originally posted by Conscope
reply to post by Conluceo

 

The International Center for 9/11 Studies has secured the release of tens of thousands of photographs, and hundreds of hours of video footage, from the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) under the Freedom of Information Act. You can download the entire NIST Cumulus Video Database (86GB) here:
911datasets.org...

post by kloejen

Originally posted by kloejen
[..]

Have anyone of you ever experimented with compressing video? These new videos came from the result of a FOIA, then released to International Center for 9/11 Studies

Then this data was handed over to 911blogger, which compressed the videos furthermore.

They state on this page

The original "NIST Cumulus Video" folder is approximately 924GB. To make it possible to distribute, we encoded it using the x264 software library.

[..]

Ok.. so 911blogger, encoded these videos into x264, fair enough. But when people upload these videos to YT, YT will re-encode it into a flash player format. So now we have 3 re-encodes of the original video. There is a possibility that you get compression artifacts

[..]

Once again: the files of the release are here, news about the release from 911blogger is here. This is part 14 of 30 (obviously not released in order), meaning that there are 29 collections of presumably each the same size left; the original size of this release is about 924 gigabyte (almost a terabyte). The torrent for download is a 'measly' 86 gigabyte.

The torrent-file is available at the link in the quote above. Please check the original post of kloejen (and star him, for effort's sake ) for more information; he makes some sensible statements about the sequence of compression.


In response to claims of manipulation, I would like to point out that blocks are inherent to compression; if blocks come up when you tweak brightness, contrast, color levels, et cetera - it means that the image or video is compressed, not that you have evidence of manipulation. If blocks didn't cover the 'disappearing' wing, the compression wouldn't have done it's job.

As for the disappearing wing; the videos from the low and less perpendicular angles show how one side of the plane is illuminated by the sun right before impact. This, for me, is enough to believe that the 4 videos showing no wing were shot from exactly that angle where the brightness of the reflection of sunlight matched the brightness of the sky, thus causing the wing to show up only in terms of color difference (saturation and hue, but not value). Combined with being compressed at least three times (1. at NIST 2. at the International Center for 9/11 Studies 3. At YouTube), it's no surprise that the wing eventually was 'compressed out of existence', if you will.

I've been noticing a few new 9/11 video's poping up on Youtube recently myself,
like this one showing firefighters "account of avents" shortly after the planes hit.

Only 75 views so far, so thought it might deserve a little bit more attention here.

No explosives in WTC.

Originally posted by kadara_dk
i have taken ,blah yada´s word about something in the sky in this 9/11video.: www.youtube.com...


and here is 5 pic of the mysticobject : UFO









i am dunno about what it is, but it is fast ;

That wasn't the object i was referring to.If you look in pic 3 it's towards the top right of pic between the lamp and the fence
It's in a couple of the other pics too.It emerges top right by the lamp and shoots down 45 deg to the brick wall between the railings.

Tell me if you can see it.

Originally posted by Conluceo
reply to post by WanderingThe3rd

 

HOLY SH*T, WHERE IN THE HELL IS THE WING?????

Originally posted by Conluceo
reply to post by WanderingThe3rd

 

Here I've embedded them in for you.

Man, I hadn't even gotten around to those, thanks.

edit on 25-10-2010 by Conluceo because: (no reason given)

HOLY SH*T, WHERE THE HELL IS THE WING???

reply to post by rokrep69


There's a helicopter approaching the towers from the right. At about :39 it's about where the flashes happen. It flashes a few times.

Some have speculated that that's what was projecting the 'hologram'.. since no video/still footage hasn't been released from it

reply to post by You Will Never Know




Here is another video I just watched. It seems a lot of the witnesses have been killed off over the years.