Going to Mars .. on a one-way trip

Originally posted by thecinic
What makes me sick is obama wants to END our NASA space program and give it to russia??? This seems like shooting yourself in the foot when the next race is that of space.....

Welcome to ATS ah maybe, new poster and starting out right posting off topic and negatively, do you have anything positive or prevalent to add to this thread?

reply to post by Max_TO


I wasn't joking, I don't think we have a clue what is really on Mars unless of course TBTB are hiding it from us like everything else, there is talk out there that we have already been to Mars and that we have a base on the Moon, don't know if that is true but nothing surprises me anymore, wouldn't that be something.

reply to post by thecinic

What makes me sick is obama wants to END our NASA space program and give it to russia??? This seems like shooting yourself in the foot when the next race is that of space.....

Building a rocket 4 times as capable as space shuttle to be completed in 2016 does not sound like ending NASA space exploration program to me..

www.nasaspaceflight.com...

It would be a suicide trip unless they had shielding from space radiation. It would give the astronauts radiation sickness and tissue damage.

There are ways to keep radiation exposure low enough. Of the top of my head:

- shielding - you can use fuel, water, or even artificial magnetic field on the way, and Martian soil on the surface
- medication to speed up DNA repair
- shorter trip times - 2 months are feasible using VASIMR

I wonder what a child would look like and what would happen to a child born on Mars? Anyway, I worry about the future on Earth and maybe being off planet is the way to go

Embryonic cells indeed behave differently in weightlessness, recent research suggests:

www.physorg.com...

This could be a problem for procreation in space. But Mars has one third of Earths gravity, maybe it is enough..

I really don’t see this in absence of some kind of economic vitality as a colony. Yet for the colony to be economically relevant that would require having an export of great and hard to find value on earth to send back to earth.

Yeah, I dont think the colony would earn money in any way, it would be a money sink, like ISS is, for example. Some research or space tourism are the only money sources for such a colony, and it would not be much, certainly not for hundreds of billions it would cost to build and operate it.

Originally posted by Aquarius1
reply to post by Max_TO

 

I wasn't joking, I don't think we have a clue what is really on Mars unless of course TBTB are hiding it from us like everything else, there is talk out there that we have already been to Mars and that we have a base on the Moon, don't know if that is true but nothing surprises me anymore, wouldn't that be something.

To tell you the truth , it wouldn't surprise me either . There is defenity a space program that operates outside of the media's attention but just how advanced is that program , I don't know .

I still find it a bit puzzling that plans are being made / talked about , to go to Mars when we can't even manage to get back to the moon . Strategically the moon would be the better starting place and to know other developing space fairing nations will be making plans to go to the moon it seems a bit strange to bypass the moon and leave it to the hands of other nations , I just don't get that .

Since i was born i always was thinking of mars. since in the 80s and 90s we didnt have internet... well not so much spread out anyway, i was cutting pictures from newspaper or watching tv to get a glimpse of the planet. and right now when i see a panorama picture i can look at it for 20-30 minutes. i dont know why i am obsessed with this planet but i would go there and leave all my friends and family back. that would be the only reason. its above anything else i love in my daily life. dont know if it makes sense to some but for me it makes total sense although i do realise that it sounds a bit edgy.

A cosmonaut and I were the first to offer ourselves to go on a one way mission. We were ignored. She might be dead by now, she was pretty old.

Originally posted by earthdude
A cosmonaut and I were the first to offer ourselves to go on a one way mission. We were ignored. She might be dead by now, she was pretty old.

edit on 22-10-2010 by earthdude because: grammar

Wow, that is interesting, details please. Who was the Cosmonaut, I assume she was from Russia.

Why did you volenteer and what qualifications do you have that might have them consider you?

Thanks for posting.

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I'd go even if I died.
I'd still push my way to the front of line. The launch, flight there, the landing and the martian view. Beats everything I've ever done so far in my life.

But that's just me.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by Aquarius1

 

I'd go even if I died.
I'd still push my way to the front of line. The launch, flight there, the landing and the martian view. Beats everything I've ever done so far in my life.

If I wanted to go to Mars there would be a big problem, I hate takeoffs, being in the air and landings, now if they could beam me up that would be cool, of course that would mean they could beam me back, right.


Thanks for posting and don't forget to let us know if you go.

I would do it(not now, besides the program would have to be setup), i mean who wouldn't want to see mars once.( or other planetary bodies)

train me in all fields of science, teach me to fly in space, start sending them in waves at the proper times. think of a crew of say 8 being sent once every 2 years. in 20 years that's 80 people (minus procreation) that would be a small colony.

even though there are no real programs in the works, there is science in the works researching the colonization of mars. (say the mars society)

stuff could also be flown in beforehand so they have supplies. i think they are possible ways of refining fuels on mars and one third less gravity would make the return trip easier than getting there.

the first's would be the luckiest, they would get to do the first major research on mars. the first 2 or 3 crews should first do the first science and scouting for good places to set up. it could happen sooner that we think,
if we could set our sights on it.

reply to post by quantumdragon

I would do it(not now, besides the program would have to be setup), i mean who wouldn't want to see mars once.( or other planetary bodies)

Agreed but my feeling is that we won't see this in our lifetime, if they do send anything to Mars aside from Probes I think it would be advanced Robots and that is probably a long way off.

If I am wrong I hope you will be one of the first to go, if so lets hope you can keep posting on ATS and keep us updated from Mars.

Originally posted by Aquarius1

If I am wrong I hope you will be one of the first to go, if so lets hope you can keep posting on ATS and keep us updated from Mars.

i would be the first to tell of a major discovery, but normal internet between mars and earth is impossible , mars would need to have its own network.

internet between mars and earth would have major delay, 14-38 minutes i would say (not sure depending on where it is in the solar system)

playing a good game of capture the flag with your buddy or live chat, would be impossible, large amounts of data could be sent, but huge lag.

i would go, and yes your going to miss the family, i would have to start training now, my credentials are what you would say, minimal.

communication to/from earth/mars i think would be largely regulated.

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That would make since unless there is technology available that you can transmit thoughts instantly, telepathy more then likely would be instantaneous, you would need someone here doing the posting for you in that case, I volunteer.

Oh don't forget to give me your password before you leave.

reply to post by Aquarius1


Thank you.

There are few things these days that Americans should and can be proud of.
If I may be so bold and bump your thread as an American....


Crank up the volume!

reply to post by SLAYER69

There are few things these days that Americans should and can be proud of.

You are welcome and I agree there are few things we can be proud of right now in our history..the Space Shuttle Program is amazing and I have followed it closely since it's inception. The only launch I missed seeing was sadly the Challenger, I was on my way to a closing, I was an Associate Real Estate Broker at the time, everyone present at that closing was in tears and we had a very hard time getting through it..a few years later while living in the San Francisco Bay Area I dated an Aerospace Engineer who was there that day, he gave me 8 personal photo's of the Astronauts who died on Challenger that day, plus a small replica of Challenger that wasn't for the public, I recently gave my collection to my grandson who has a big interest and know he will take care of them.

Thank you for posting the video, hard to watch knowing that the program is retired.

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Thank you but before you die you do realize that this history will be lost....

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by Aquarius1

 

Thank you but before you die you do realize that this history will be lost....

I am confused, what do you mean this history will be lost?

Please expain Slayer.

I would go, i really have nothing here holding me back....

Ah, the ultimate adventure. Colonizing another planet.

Make it cheap. Start terraforming right now - send billions of seeds on a patch of land. Make a dome over it but leave it partially open. The best way is probably sending as many people as we can. Make them adapt to low oxygen mix. The majority will die. Those who survive will suffer greatly and die within a couple of years. Mating is a priority. Get as many newborns as you can - the majority will die but some will survive - eventually two of them will live to be 13 yo and they will have a 2nd generation child. Meanwhile the plants will do the same. By now a diversity of plants should be thriving on that patch of land and the dome is stretched over a wider area. When the 2nd generation baby is born then the colony is permanent.
With each generation push the limit -expose them to the open atmosphere more and more.

After a thousand years of breeding and farming we will be able to survive even if all technology fails and the link with Earth is gone.

Space. com has an article up on a one-way trip to Mars.

Mars or Bust! One-Way Trip to the Red Planet Could Kick-start Colonization

October 20, 2010

The vast plains of Mars may be the most promising place beyond Earth for human colonization, but is it enough for a one-way trip to the Red Planet? Two researchers seem to think so.

In an article published this month in the Journal of Cosmology, environmental scientist Dirk Schulze-Makuch and physicist Paul Davies argue that a manned one-way mission to Mars would not only make economical sense, but mark the beginning of long-term colonization of the planet.

The researchers contend that while a manned flight to Marrs and back is technically feasible now, the steep financial and political costs make such a mission unlikely to launch anytime soon.

And since the greatest portion of expenses would be incurred by the safe return of the crew and spacecraft to Earth, the authors conclude that a manned one-way mission to Mars would both cut costs and help initiate Martian colonization.

Link

This article is similar to my original opening post, if interested there is a poll at the link you may want to take which ask the question, would you be interested in a one way trip to Mars?