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posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by AnonymousJ
Iever heared of inheritance???


Yeah...inheritence. Thats trickle-down-economics. Its everyone benefiting from my riches. Thats the purpose of capitalism. In socialism nobody benefits because I have no riches to give.



. If you become unemployed after so many weeks your points will begin to drop back down and points will be frozon upon retirment. However since points are nontransferable we have upwards mobility without creating inequalitys. Points will start out as simple per hour but if the need arises there could be a vote on weather certain jobs should 'pay' more to help create an incentive for more doctors etc.


Its an interesting concept, certainly worth trying out here and there.

But again..."inequality" is not a bad thing. It creates a drive to want to compete and play and grow. Capitalism is not really about acquiring riches or greed or luxury items. Thats only what leftists think Capitalism is. Its about

challenge,

growth,

game,

productivity,

creativity.

Only an idiot needs 10 luxury cars parked in his garage. Thats not at all what Capitalists are about.. We`re into buildng civilization.



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by orange-light
but in my opinion it is kind of disrespect towards people in germany or the USA to compare their poverty and struggling for living, for educating their children properly, to create a hopefully better future with the poverty and chaos in africa.these are two different subjects which by no means should be compared.


Oh cry me a river. Nobody is dying of starvation in Germany.


nope
but some are freezing to death in winter

so tell me how to solve it?

take welfare away from those who need it
tell them to be ashamed to have no job
tell them to stop whining since they are not poor
tell them that poverty is real poverty when they start starving

really tell me how to deal with it!! i am curious



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating

By integrating into West Germany the standard of living in East Germany skyrocketed.

New Highways were built. Entire cities were renovated.


might be
some renovation seemed to be necessary
but you have to differentiate between a city and the citizens



And East Germans are still complaining?


no they don.t
they have resignated or went to western germany since there is no more work to be found in eastern germany
so nothing to complaine about



In former Eastern countries that are more Libertarian-Capitalistic such as Estonia, Lituania, Poland, Latvia, people are enthusiastic about this and make the best of it. I'd recommend the same to East Germans.


great to hear
but still wondering why so many polish people try to find work in germany



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by orange-light

but some are freezing to death in winter

so tell me how to solve it?


Germans are not freezing to death in the winter.



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 11:25 AM
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If someone dies of food poisoning in Mexico do you write "Mexicans foods are poisened"?

If someone gets murdered in Spain to you write "Spaniards are murderers"?

If someone freezes to death in Germany do you write "Germans freeze to death?"

You cant take something that is rare and exceptional and pretend that it represents the general reality.

Thats precisely the problem with socialist ideology.



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by AnonymousJ
Iever heared of inheritance???



Thats not at all what Capitalists are about.. We`re into buildng civilization.


yes on the backs of slavery and exploitation. Double thumbs up for that one.



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr
yes on the backs of slavery and exploitation. Double thumbs up for that one.


All employees of Microsoft or Walmart work there of their own free will. Thats a fact.



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 11:41 AM
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...and Im not "conservative" by the way. Not all anti-socialists are conservative or religious.



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by orange-light

but some are freezing to death in winter

so tell me how to solve it?


Germans are not freezing to death in the winter.


www.share-international.org...

www.spiegel.de...

maybe they are not dead or they haven.t been germans



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 11:52 AM
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15 people died. While many thousand died on expensive German Highways in expensive German cars.

People die in every country of a great variety of causes. If a Mexican dies of Food-Poisoning you would not generalize and see "In Mexico, food is poisened".



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
yes on the backs of slavery and exploitation. Double thumbs up for that one.


All employees of Microsoft or Walmart work there of their own free will. Thats a fact.


Yes but walmart and microsoft didnt build the civilisation of America. It was built upon the backs of slaves. Capitalism has been around longer than Microsoft.



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
reply to post by orange-light
 


...and Im not "conservative" by the way. Not all anti-socialists are conservative or religious.


i haven.t called you conservative but i have called myself being left thinking
that.s all



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by orange-light


i haven.t called you conservative but i have called myself being left thinking
that.s all



Just making sure. People normally associate this stuff with Conservativism.



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Yes but walmart and microsoft didnt build the civilisation of America. It was built upon the backs of slaves. Capitalism has been around longer than Microsoft.


1. Is it a fair estimation to say that America was mainly built on the back of slaves or were there also many industrious people who did no such thing?

2. Is it a fair estimation to say that Capitalism = Slavery or is keeping slaves merely the result of a backward mentality that we have meanwhile overcome?

3. Is slavery an issue in modern day Capitalism?



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
reply to post by orange-light
 


15 people died. While many thousand died on expensive German Highways in expensive German cars.

People die in every country of a great variety of causes. If a Mexican dies of Food-Poisoning you would not generalize and see "In Mexico, food is poisened".


if you read my post clearly you will see that i wrote:




but some are freezing to death in winter



and you replied:


Germans are not freezing to death in the winter.


which is more generalizing?


and due to the spiegel of jan 29 2010 15 german people have been frozen to death.
that.s a fact!

and sorry you are just comparing apples with pears with oranges


poverty in africa is one fact
but poverty exist all around the world
people are abused all around the world
and you just can.t compare mexico with germany with estonia with the south pole
different situations different solutions.

so stop jumping from starvation to car crashes to poisoned food.

that.s all generalization!

it is quiet easy to blame socialistic people when capitalistic people are harming the world with greediness



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by orange-light


i haven.t called you conservative but i have called myself being left thinking
that.s all



Just making sure. People normally associate this stuff with Conservativism.


which is not very far fetched, right?



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 12:27 PM
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15 people freezing to death in one year happens in almost all northern countries. Its just something that happens when it gets very cold. This is not due to "evil Capitalists" but just because its damn cold and sh'it happens sometimes.

If it were hundreds of thousands of people freezing and starving to death in the winter, like under Stalinism and Maoism...now thats a different story.



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by orange-light
which is not very far fetched, right?


"Anti-socialits are conservative and religious bigots" is a misrepresentation created by Neo-Commies. There are also plenty of

Classical Liberals
Liberals
Moderates
Libertarians

that are anti-socialist.



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 12:33 PM
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Well it looks like someone has channel Jo Mcarthy yet again. The Economy is fine . America's manufacturing is in great shape and american capitalists have yet again reinvested in the good old USA. Our banks have yet again acted responsibly so the last two years was just vile lies. Profit have been sacrified for patriotism!

Now that is the truth. Now buy one of my bridges across the East river.

edit on 23-10-2010 by tiger5 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by tiger5
Well it looks like someone has channel Jo Mcarthy yet again. The Economy is fine .


The truth is, for the Communist nothing is ever fine...at any point in History. They wil always find something to complain and moan about.
edit on 23-10-2010 by Skyfloating because: (no reason given)




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