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Getting rid of a public system doesn't fix those problems. All it does it shirk fixing those problems off into other systems, or abandonning part of the population to non-education or substandard education.
While most parents think their children are receiving a quality education, the majority of American students are falling behind their international counterparts. The consequences to our country are dramatic.
We have low expectations for American students.
* American students rank 25th in math and 21st in science compared to students in 30 industrialized countries.
* America’s top math students rank 25th out of 30 countries when compared with top students elsewhere in the world. [1]
* By the end of 8th grade, U.S. students are two years behind in the math being studied by peers in other countries. [2]
* Sixty eight percent of 8th graders can’t read at their grade level, and most will never catch up.
The USA has a serious problem in many areas of education. This is true.
A U.S. Department of Education study shows that independent schools are on the right track by placing such a strong emphasis on small school and class size. The Condition of Education 2002 suggests that small and intermediate—sized schools and relatively small classes, like those commonly found in independent schools, have advantages, often leading to higher achievement for students.
Key findings of the report include:
-Teachers at independent schools report having significant influence on teaching practices and school policies.
-Teachers at independent schools report being satisfied with teaching at their school.
-A majority of teachers at independent schools express positive opinions about their school head and their school’s leadership.
-Independent school students generally perform higher than their public school counterparts on standardized achievement tests.
-Independent high schools typically have more demanding graduation requirements than do public high schools.
December 1999 - By a margin of nine to one, Americans believe parents should have the right to choose their child's school, according to a report released last month by Public Agenda, a research organization based in New York City. Moreover, if they were given a choice of schools-- along with the financial wherewithal to exercise it-- a full 55 percent of parents who currently send their children to public schools would want to send them to private schools.
You ever consider that you have a problem because a certain influential segment of the country WANTS to wreck the public system for their own purposes, and therefore encourages bureaucratic and state problems which will assure that the system will fail?
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, President Barack Obama highlighted steps his Administration will take to combat the dropout crisis and invest in strategies to ensure students graduate prepared for college and careers.
President Obama challenged states to identify high schools with graduation rates below 60% and discussed the Administration’s investments to help them turn those schools around. The Obama Administration has committed $3.5 billion to fund transformational changes in America’s persistently low-performing schools. Additionally, the President’s FY 2011 budget includes $900 million to support School Turnaround Grants. President Obama also emphasized the importance of investing in dropout prevention and recovery strategies to help make learning more engaging and relevant for students, and announced new efforts to invest $100 million in a College Pathways program to promote a college readiness culture in high schools, through programs that allow students to earn a high school diploma and college credit at the same time.
Nearly 6.2 million students in the United States between the ages of 16 and 24 in 2007 dropped out of high school, fueling what a report released Tuesday called "a persistent high school dropout crisis."
Gen. Colin Powell has led battles around the world, but now he's taking on a desperate fight on the homefront: what he calls the "moral catastrophe" of dropout rates for U.S. high school students.
Everyone agrees on the need to reform our public schools—everyone, that is, except the teachers’ unions. Hoover fellow and former governor of California Pete Wilson argues that the teachers’ unions are putting their own interests above the interests of our children.
But beginning about thirty years ago, something happened to undermine the hope and expectation. The proud truism has been rendered invalid in schools all across the country. We’ve seen a marked decline in American public education not only in test scores but in most other measurements of educational performance. Something is seriously wrong when a delegation of Silicon Valley executives travels to Washington to plead with Congress to liberalize the quota for legal immigrants because they cannot find a sufficient number of American workers who possess the education and technical skills to manufacture the products of the twenty-first century. And it is not just high-technology employers who have reason to complain of our system of K–12 education.
Obviously many of the other public systems around the world are NOT having the same problems. Maybe you should ask yourselves WHY.
The report shows that approximately 1.5 million children (2.9 percent of school-age children) were being homeschooled in the spring of 2007, representing a 36 percent relative increase since 2003 and a 74 percent relative increase since 1999.[1] One private researcher estimates that as many as 2.5 million school-age children were educated at home during the 2007-2008 school year.[2]
The homeschooling survey also reveals the most common reasons cited by families as the basis for their decision to educate their children at home. The most frequently referenced reasons included the ability to provide moral or religious instruction (36 percent), concern about the environment at other schools (21 percent), and dissatisfaction with the academic instruction provided at other schools (17 percent).[3] The number of parents reporting the ability to provide moral or religious instruction as a rationale for homeschooling their children increased by 11 percentage points (from 72 percent in 2003 to 83 percent in 2007)
About 1.1 million students (1,096,000) were being homeschooled in the United States in the spring of 2003 (figure 1). This represents an increase from the estimated 850,000 students who were being homeschooled in the spring of 1999. In addition, the estimated homeschooling rate?the percentage of the school-age population that was being homeschooled?increased from 1.7 percent in 1999 to 2.2 percent in 2003 (not shown in tables or figures).
Perhaps the problem isn't the public system. It is the many layers of horse# and intentional sabotaging it is labouring under.
380.1561 Compulsory attendance at public school; enrollment dates; exceptions.
Sec. 1561.
(1) Except as otherwise provided in this section, for a child who turned age 11 before December 1, 2009 or who entered grade 6 before 2009, the child's parent, guardian, or other person in this state having control and charge of the child shall send that child to a public school during the entire school year from the age of 6 to the child's sixteenth birthday. Except as otherwise provided in this section, for a child who turns age 11 on or after December 1, 2009 or a child who was age 11 before that date and enters grade 6 in 2009 or later, the child's parent, guardian, or other person in this state having control and charge of the child shall send the child to a public school during the entire school year from the age of 6 to the child's eighteenth birthday. The child's attendance shall be continuous and consecutive for the school year fixed by the school district in which the child is enrolled. In a school district that maintains school during the entire calendar year and in which the school year is divided into quarters, a child is not required to attend the public school more than 3 quarters in 1 calendar year, but a child shall not be absent for 2 or more consecutive quarters.
If a family chooses to home school under exemption (3)(a) as a non-public school, they will be under the authority of the MDE. The MDE has authority over all non-public schools and home educators operating under exemption (3)(a) because the Non-Public School Act of 1921 gives them that authority. All non-public schools must comply with the requirements of the Act which includes the following:
Tea Party volunteers are, of course, welcome to teach an accurate version of the Constitution to schoolchildren. Indeed, Michigan’s current social studies standards already require students to learn about the origins of the U.S. Constitution and “Core Democratic Values” — including liberty and patriotism — by third grade. Given the Tea Party’s close association with radical “tenther” views of the Constitution, however, it is unlikely that they wish to provide Michigan children with an accurate constitutional history. Similar attempts have already been made to inject right-wing ideology into public school curriculum. Earlier this year, the right-wing Texas State Board of Education successfully adopted new content for the state’s social studies curriculum, which included more conservatives, more Confederate glorification, and more distortion of progressive viewpoints.
§ 1 Political power.
Sec. 1.
All political power is inherent in the people. Government is instituted for their equal benefit, security and protection.
A new study from Education Week shows that at least a third of teenagers in the nation are dropping out of school without earning their diplomas. Detroit has the worst rate: Fewer than 25 percent of freshmen go on to graduate.
Antipathy to education tax deductions and credits remains strong in some quarters where animus against nonpublic schools is backed up by law. In many states, legislatures are prohibited by their constitutions and their courts from issuing tax deductions and credits, even for voluntary charitable contributions. By all accounts, Michigan has one of the strictest bans on public funding of private schools anywhere in the country, and voters there failed to pass a referendum in the 2000 election that, among other things, would have eliminated it. Despite this failure, proponents of school choice hope that movements to lift this restriction on public aid might find success in five other states (Florida, New York, Georgia, Montana, and Oklahoma) that do not permit any aid, direct or indirect, to religious schools.
The Detroit Public Schools posted the worst scores on record in the most recent test of students in large central U.S. cities. The scores came on the Trial Urban District Assessment, a national test developed by the Governing Board, the National Center for Education Statistics of the U.S. Department of Education and the Council of the Great City Schools.
“There is no jurisdiction of any kind, at any level, at any time in the 30-year history of NAEP that has ever registered such low numbers,” said Michael Casserly, executive director of the Council on Great City Schools, a Washington, D.C.-based coalition of urban school districts.
Originally posted by Wildbob77
reply to post by butcherguy
It is more common in Europe for people to be multilingual. The countries are smaller and more people live near a country where a different language is spoken. I don't see this as a failing in the US, just not a priority.
You ever consider that we have a problem because the federal government itself WANTS to wreck the public school system?
Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Stormdancer777
It would be interesting to find out how many people that live in New York State,Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine speak French fluently just because it borders another country(almost another country, Quebec) where they speak French predominately.
Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Stormdancer777
I know this question was for JPZ, but I want to answer it too.
I think it is because stupid serfs are better serfs!
Originally posted by Misoir
reply to post by Alora
In the 19th century people volunteered to do lots of things such as police, firefighters, teachers, etc... So why today must it be a government job wasting tax payer dollars when it was more effective and less corrupt when left to the citizens to give over some of their time to invest in their future and/or their community?edit on 10/17/2010 by Misoir because: (no reason given)
Yes I have, would you tell me why, in your opinion, they are purposely trying to wreck the public school system, I see many factors but it is also at the college level.
In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility — I welcome it. I do not believe that any of us would exchange places with any other people or any other generation. The energy, the faith, the devotion which we bring to this endeavor will light our country and all who serve it — and the glow from that fire can truly light the world. And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.