Alot say they are ready for(Doomsday,2012,WWIII,etc)But are you mentally ready???

I read many topics on ATS but my favorites is the survival thread,there is tons of good information floating around some i have used in my own prep. and stockpiling.Info ranges from "The best firearm"to"The best Vehicle".On any given day there are a great number of threads related to survival,Some topics are even(Disaster Detailed).As I began to read I noticed a kind of disturbing trend the"I'M READY I WISH IT COMES".

Don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with"preparing for the worst and hoping for the best"But i don't seem to understand what the rush is for total fail of the world as we know it.Being fortunate enough to serve in the military,I have seen what it's like first hand to see what it is like to live not knowing when or if your next meal will come,to live with no form of law enforcement and it truly is a"DOG EAT DOG...SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST"world and i tell you it's not something i would not want to expose my daughter or anyone's child to have to endure.

Some people sit around and watch post apocalypse movies and think there will be a happy ending..When in truth and reality No Calvary comes and you are stuck with only you and your survival skills.I would like to use a few movie trailers that in my opinion would be as factual as anything that would happen.Sit back take them in and think are you really ready to live like this??

reply to post by alchemist2012

Alchemis2012, this is perhaps the best question I've seen on ATS' Survival Forum!

What people aren't realizing is the horrific amount of deaths there will be. When you see them talk about whole cities full of people rampaging and killing each other they forget that the first victims will always be the youngest and the oldest.

Among those on the move there will be many deaths, again beginning with the youngest and oldest. The smaller children simply will not be able to keep up and its going to be very hard to carry them and a full BOB too. Infants and toddlers will need carried. Those four to about seven can walk but they will need to take frequent breaks not to mention the whining and crying. If silence during movement is critical small children will blow your cover.

They dehydrate quickly, need small frequent meals, and vitamins and minerals are more critical for them.

I am prepared with supplies and knowledge but I dread a SitX of a serious nature. The losses of life will be tremendous!

How many of you could go past an infant or a small child alone and not add to your party? What if there were two or three small children?

I believe it has to do with the desire to not let things drag on. Get it over quickly, so to speak. Sort of like pulling out a splinter quickly, or popping a dislocated bone back into its place. Some people will agree that it is best to bite the plank and yank the thorn out already. Slow and drawn out just prolongs the inevitable.

Another reason could be that people are also tired of the current societal constructs. An event of such extremes, though chaotic and more than likely very painful to experience, would more than likely allow for people to take more control of their lives. When we think about corrupt political schemes, a shoddy justice system, bureaucratic red-tape and all that sort of silly drivel; some people don't mind the alternative. Especially when they feel their little slice of paradise is secure, or feel that they'll be able to secure something decent in the long run.

You can also chalk it up to people who fantasize about being on the road, owing nothing to anyone, having no obligations to anyone but themselves, master of their own lives. Perhaps even heroes, or villains, etc.

There was a odd smell in my neighborhood for three days like a dead animal. It was awfull. Well it was a cat surounded by worms and dead very dead, so I dont want to think what it is like when it smells of thousends of people death everywhere... No thank you...

reply to post by Tetradeth


I think what you just said is a very big part of it. People who live very sheltered lives and mayhaps feel disconnected from humanity in some way are desperately searching for purpose and knowledge of self. The idea of a post-apocalyptic world excites people and lets them live out in their heads the part that they would like for themselves. In reality, I think only the demented will enjoy themselves. I, for one will be cowering in terror with my teddybear. Initially at least.

We cannot possibly know exactly what we are made of until we are faced with our nightmares. And for a lot of people it would be devastating to learn what they are infact capable of

Some people just don't make rationale sense. I don't know if they are paid disinfo agents or just mentally disturbed. It is one thing to "prepare for the worst and hope for the best" and its quite another TO WANT death and destruction.

To begin with I don't believe in doomsday prophecies. Perhaps the people that do are the same people that want the aforementioned to happen because it is easier to fulfill such prophecies when a large percentage of the population thinks and acts negatively....mind over matter issue?

I prefer to be positive!

reply to post by Exodaria


I feel that I would more than likely be scared out of my mind. Initially there is that "sudden disconnection" that people have to come to terms with in order to progress. Many who can't get over that hurdle will more than likely find great inconvenience and hardship. Assuming I can push through it, I feel that most of my endeavors and exploits would have me on edge at all times. Uneasy with high anxiety, but I think I'd be able to manage somewhat, if only to secure the well-being of those I care about.

Part of me would relish the freedom, but that comes at a very high price. It's essentially a very high-stakes game to play with. Assuming you don't care to kill anyone ever, yet knowing that any person you meet could be capable of screwing you over, even children; match it with scarcity and the great mass of people willing to do anything to acquire their share, you essentially have a very gut-wrenching reality. A cruel, cruel world where split second decisions and reading between the lines will ultimately prove invaluable.

But then again, that is all assuming the majority goes into panic and primal motives. The lucky of us might assemble nomadic traveling packs, but so would the worst of us. Heaven forbid you should meet with a large group of disgusting, abusive people that want nothing but to take your everything and watch you writhe.

Originally posted by Tetradeth
I believe it has to do with the desire to not let things drag on. Get it over quickly, so to speak. Sort of like pulling out a splinter quickly, or popping a dislocated bone back into its place. Some people will agree that it is best to bite the plank and yank the thorn out already. Slow and drawn out just prolongs the inevitable.

True in some cases but when applied to global upheavel its totally unwelcomed. Slow, gradual change is much preferable because it would cause less hardships, less destruction, less death.

Originally posted by Tetradeth
Another reason could be that people are also tired of the current societal constructs. An event of such extremes, though chaotic and more than likely very painful to experience, would more than likely allow for people to take more control of their lives. When we think about corrupt political schemes, a shoddy justice system, bureaucratic red-tape and all that sort of silly drivel; some people don't mind the alternative. Especially when they feel their little slice of paradise is secure, or feel that they'll be able to secure something decent in the long run.

Anyone deeply familiar with today's societal constructs is likely to agree with you. My arguement is we need to gradually modify the status-quo first through peer awareness and second by pressuring our respective governments(hopefully we will never reach an official global dictatorship by then) to act in a fair and unbaised manner.

As it stands, private central banks and multi-national corporations have more influence then they deserve!

Originally posted by Tetradeth
You can also chalk it up to people who fantasize about being on the road, owing nothing to anyone, having no obligations to anyone but themselves, master of their own lives. Perhaps even heroes, or villains, etc.

Haha some people watch too many john wayne movies and think we live in 18th-19th century america. Things have changed since then big time. There is no such thing as absolute freedom, it is merely an altruistic concept!

The more complex a society is, the more rules/regulations there will be. The question becomes not if we want a small/medium/big government but WHO does that government represent and to what degree................

reply to post by alchemist2012


Many people have prepared, stocked up and honed their skills. Their ego desires a shot at proving such so they desire a situation where they can do so. The ego projecting a hero scenario where they and their practiced skills are the hero and savior of themselves and others. In a puffed up ego, in their minds they are more prepared than others and desire the chance to prove they were right in their preparations. Their warnings of doom become justified and can cry, " I was right!" The disaster porn movies are full of it. They imagine themselves as one of these characters.

Most have no clue the depravity of such a situation. Will be nothing like the movies.

In reality..... NO!

I'm probably better prepared than most but I love to drop by the 7-11 for my huge diet coke, not to mention the $5 footlongs at subway.

We shop every Sunday for fresh fruit and yogurt etc.

I have lots of food etc set aside but I'm not ready to give up the life that I've got today.

As i stated in the OP i have and continue to prepare for SITX but when i hear breaking news I mumble under my breath"God no not now"I am sick of this current situation as well,but its far better now for my family than in a post-apocalyptic scenario.

The human psyche is an amazing thing. No matter how bad it gets people just survive. During traumatic experiences parts of the brain shut down. The ability to feel physical and emotional pain disappears. The person switches into the core survival mode, as in the reptilian part of the brain. I watched a documentary on how a train wreck survivor climbed out to rescue other trapped passengers. Doctors said he crushed his back when the train flipped. Says he didn't feel any pain or panic. Only after it was over he got ptsd and laid in a hospital bed for months. That's one example, there are so many others.

reply to post by alchemist2012


I dont think anybody could say with honesty that they're mentaly prepared for what would happen. While theres many people that are probably as prepared as they could be in terms of equipment. They usually have a perfect survival situation in mind while they prepare.

I think mentally you'd have to be willing to shake off all your social and humanistic traits and be prepared to do things that only animals would. Taking the good fflesh from a part decomposing body to feed yourself and your family for example. Not being able to trust anyone. Even if you've known them most of your life. Maybe even take the lives of your children if it was the only option to put an end to their suffering.

No one should ever wish this to come along. Its like anyone who's been in the military and seen action, will tell you. Those who want war or disaster, have never seen one.

That film looks like it will be great. I'll defo's be watching that.

Great thread.

i think it depents on the catastraphy that hapens but would would belive any people how servive would probaly join togrther i dont realy think everyone will go crazy an just kill each other unles it comes down to a food shortige, lets just hope it never hapens

reply to post by scott,aussie


I would'nt be so sure. Fear and desperation can do strange things to people. Especialy in high stress situations. I suppose deep down id like to believe that we'd all band together. Theres no guarentees though.

Peace!

I don't think anyone could be mentally prepared for such an event.

Having said that the Human mind is an amazing piece of hardware, Its ability to cope and adapt to such a lifestyle is nothing short of incredible.

Of coarse this doesn't apply to all of us but I guess that's survival of the fittest for ya.

Peace.
ALS

Great film by the way..........very harrowing and very close to the truth.

A lot of people treat any kind of 2012 end of days scenario like a computer game, thinking that there will be a pause button , or save point , or even that you can turn it off and go back to your everyday life.
Too many of them and us do not realise there is not going to be any of those if the situation is severe enough, I bet none of them actually stop to think of what would happen once the medication stopped being produced, the water stopped flowing from the taps, the electricity doesn't come on.
What would they do then to survive then?

Originally posted by DataWraith
A lot of people treat any kind of 2012 end of days scenario like a computer game, thinking that there will be a pause button , or save point , or even that you can turn it off and go back to your everyday life.
Too many of them and us do not realise there is not going to be any of those if the situation is severe enough, I bet none of them actually stop to think of what would happen once the medication stopped being produced, the water stopped flowing from the taps, the electricity doesn't come on.
What would they do then to survive then?

I will take the possibility of death of starvation, dehydration and disease over this monotonous life.

Originally posted by Segador

Originally posted by DataWraith
A lot of people treat any kind of 2012 end of days scenario like a computer game, thinking that there will be a pause button , or save point , or even that you can turn it off and go back to your everyday life.
Too many of them and us do not realise there is not going to be any of those if the situation is severe enough, I bet none of them actually stop to think of what would happen once the medication stopped being produced, the water stopped flowing from the taps, the electricity doesn't come on.
What would they do then to survive then?

I will take the possibility of death of starvation, dehydration and disease over this monotonous life.

edit on 16-10-2010 by Segador because: (no reason given)

Please explain your thinking my friend,as bad as it now i would rather live this than that

reply to post by alchemist2012


This is a great question. I'll share some of my thoughts as a child growing into this world. I have always had an affinity and respect for the Native Americans. I often wondered how I could live their way. I felt we could be much more if we lived close to the Earth and better able to take care of ourselves. I studied N A history and their survival skills. They suffered greatly and we too have suffered for their loss. We live far away from the Earth now, not knowing her and not knowing ourselves. When you master physical reality, you connect with the planet and Source. Spiritual lessons tie into a greater understanding of life. Their very survival centered around a deeper connection and they had an expanded awareness because of that connection.
We will likely come to a point where our delicate, manufactured foundation brings us down to Earth under the weight of it's obesity, greed and exploitation. We are not well. Our corporate masters and handlers want us distracted and in fear so that we are more easily controlled. It's an easy ride, just sit back and watch TV, leave the driving to them. Where will we go once the ride starts to act up? Are you going to panic and jump into the nearest exit or are you going to see what else is left in the amusement park? Perhaps a few will understand the need for community and to work with one another to create something bigger than themselves. Many will not due to fear.
This is the show to be at in the universe. Which way will this lost colony go? Into the darkness of slavery in accordance with our beliefs and what we are told? Will we seek empowerment to live free? We will be watched.