psyops target, similar to 'gangstalking'

Originally posted by AbStrActiNg

Who the hell wants to sleep with the whiny, unconfident punching bag? Nobody, that's who. Except maybe really fat chicks, they'll take what they can get.

C'mon dudes...fat chicks are the best, especially after you've fed them some booze and pizza and get them sort of buzzing and laughing and jiggly.

You just gotta strap them on and get ready for a ride!

The Quiet Storm...

you sound like a good guy at heart. Why should you care what others think about you. If they don't want to take the time to get to know you, then it's their loss. Been where you are at, and it's all about attitude change. Forget about the middle school years...Live in the NOW, each day you wake up is always a new beginning. Let yesterday go. Respect and love yourself...you'd be surprised how things begin to turn around.

Try it...good luck will find you, my friend...believe it.

as above, so below.

~holly

Originally posted by FiscalYour post, while having the decent core message of the fellow learning to respect himself, is so far off-base in its advice that it borders upon the ridiculous. Just thought you should know.

Explain yourself, but make sure to tell me your gender first.

Originally posted by MMPI2
C'mon dudes...fat chicks are the best, especially after you've fed them some booze and pizza and get them sort of buzzing and laughing and jiggly.

You just gotta strap them on and get ready for a ride!

Hey, sure, different strokes for different folks (or something like that). Maybe that's what TS needs.

Storm,

You are unconsciously drawing this behavior to you through your body language, mannerisms and possibly even your energy field.

Someone posted that you being yourself isnt good enough, the problem is we dont know who we really are. The real us is wonderful but we have forgotten who that is and how to express it.

I would suggest as a start learning to love yourself whole heartedly, self respect is the first step towards cultivating respect from others.

Working out will definitely improve respect from other men as we respond unconsciously to the presence of a stronger or weaker male figure instantly. When I walk into a room I know I'm the biggest most powerful man there, I know it, and in that moment everyone else knows it to.

If you are the weakest man in the room, and you know it, everyone else in that moment knows it to.

I'm not saying take pills to get buff, but you need to cultivate and grow your physical body, your emotional body, your mental body and your spiritual body to a level that exceeds the baseline of what unconscious people will innately respect as equal or better to themselves.

You are like a field ready to be planted, sew the seeds and watch them grow without outward expectations.

Love yourself truly.


-G

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Well I can relate to seeming to get away with far less than others. It always seemed I would get jumped on with both feet for a mistake while others could be far more obnoxious and not get called on it. But I didn't lack self confidence and I have always been generally well liked. I think too many people expected too much of me so any slip up was magnified in their eyes. Also, I was known as a nice person and people do tend to be more outspoken and direct with someone they perceive as less likely to argue back. Regrettably to put an end to that I had to do two things...turn thirty and get in touch with my inner bitch.

Really about turning thirty...the magic in that is that I felt more interested in what was going on in the world than in myself and my place in the world. Once I became engaged in making the world a better place through various activities and forgot about myself I must have subconsciously lightened up on myself and removed whatever "kick me" sign I must have placed there...myself. Okay, enough about "myself". You sound like a great guy. You're probably putting out an aura of intensity due to your excessive worry about your perceived social dysfunction and that is likely scaring the ladies. Guys with a stalker mentality or control freak tendencies sometimes give off that same weird off-putting "weird loner" vibe that perfectly benign but mildly troubled guys do. Since a girl can't always tell the difference her natural instinct is to give off "get away from me" body language. It is not about a woman being mean or passing judgement but about proactively protecting herself from a potential threat.

I know, that fails to explain why so many women seek out and fall for obvious losers and jerks. Hey, I don't claim to understand my own gender perfectly, either.

Go ahead and check out www.montalk.net and look around for the articles that talk about how we can attract positive energy and outcomes for ourselves and repel the negative stuff. Some of the info on that site is a little far out but overall it makes sense and seems reasonable.

No I don't think you are a psyops victim. What you're feeling is not unusual for a young person finding their place in the world. Most people do feel the way you do at some point but just don't have the desire or means to talk about it. If you do start convincing yourself you are some sort of psyops target I sincerely urge you to talk to a mental health professional. You may need to see several to find one you click with but it would be well worth the effort. Unfortunately you are likely also the approximate age that schizophrenia starts kicking in, if I'm correct in guessing you're in your late teens or twenties. I've seen the progression of this disease in a loved one and it's not pleasant but it is treatable if addressed early.

I wish you all the best. Have faith in your own goodness and please don't consider suicide because the world needs all the good and gentle people we can have. You will persevere and overcome your current problems. Have faith and meanwhile develop your empathy and compassion as you suffer so that you may help someone else in the future once you are secure and strong. That day will come but as with all worthwhile goals you have to have patience and persistence and work toward it.

I've had the same problem for most of my life. I've never really tried to make others like me, everyone should make up their own mind, I'm not going to convince anyone that I am a nice decent guy. It wouldn't feel right to me if I did, like I would be controlling their minds so they would like me. I just listen to what another has to say and try to give some friendly response, a basic respect because we're all human beings.

Edit to add. I'll just explain my view even though you might not like it. I believe there is another world like this one except it is like a mirror and it is not something physical, the astral is what desribes it best. It's made up of humanities imagination, fantsasy, hopes and dreams but also everything negative. In that other world there's a "you" or an image of you, like a statue which grows overtime just like you on earth, some people call it a higher self.

This statue is just like you on the inside (and at the core there's something which is the same for all of us), but on the outside it is "made" or changed by the people around you, it is like your persona how people see you but not how you see yourself. So if someone would speak bad about you, this will reflect on your statue and it might be others sense this, even if it is a layer from 10 years ago - they build up over time. It is like a thought someone once produced and stretches out and sticks on your statue. If you are in a room full of people, all these statues will have a connection with eachother on the outside and they will start to interact with eachother putting layers upon layers on the other statues. Some layers might vanish overtime, some layers might not. You can't change the layer because then you would have to "think" for someone else which is impossible. You can't convice people unless you have advanced knowledge but trust me, you don't want to. The best I know of is to remember my self, then the layers will not be able to stick to the outside anymore and will vanish over time back to whoever it originated. But whatever you think of it, please don't think someone is intentionally doing this to you. It will only produce fear and anger or you might give in to despair when you realize you're fighting a lost battle, such a view might weaken you making it all the more difficult to cope with all those layers.

Hi Quiet Storm

I understand about the “standing out” when you just want to blend in, people thinking that you are weird or aren’t worth their time in getting to know you. I can relate to the experience that you explained when you were driving-that happens to me as well. I found myself nodding my head to just about everything you said.

It wasn’t always like this for me, just the past few years. I am a funny, nice, a normal person, and I had no problem making friends. For some reason the past few years I have become a negativity magnet. I draw negative strangers to me constantly. I don’t go around with a frown on my face but for some reason I am always running into mean, negative people. I just assumed that most people have turned into as$h@les.

Are you basically a nice person?
Are you typically a quiet, shy, and/or reserved person?
Do you generally feel that you “do not have a mean streak any where in your body”?
Do you find that you would do almost anything for anybody just as a kind deed?
Are you spiritual (not necessarily religious)?
Are you interested/believe/have experienced the paranormal?
Do you feel that your “sixth senses” are getting stronger?

I ask those questions because I can see exactly where you are coming from. I am wondering if nicer people who may also “sense” more than others just possibly have a different vibe from one another. I believe it may have started when my awareness got stronger, that somehow my energy changed or altered. Others may sense energy from us that is different from themselves that doesn’t resonate and makes them uncomfortable. I have read on many threads on ATS that perhaps as this change is going, on the shifting might be affecting other’s personalities (the negative getting meaner). I really do think that for some reason our vibe does not resonate with certain others. Perhaps some peoples energy may stand out more than others.

When I try to explain how I feel to people nobody understands (or maybe they don’t want to think about it). I just get “your paranoid” or “you read too much into it”. Well I know what I experience.

Sorry, I don’t have an answer for you. I am trying to figure it out myself. Good luck and know that you aren’t the only one out there!

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Hmmm there could be something to what you say. I don't see it directed to myself nor my husband, who is another person who seemed to go through life with a cosmic "kick me" sign on his back despite being a big tough guy you wouldn't want to truly engage in a fight. He's a sort of gentle giant...unless you pick on his family.

But I definitely do see people acting more casually cruel, more than I can ever remember seeing. Or completely overreacting. Take for example a neighbor's son. He was about five when I first met him and his brother who is a year older. I always got along great with the whole family. Even after gently scolding the older boy for running wild on my property, we are "buds". But the younger was never friendly and once, just once, I told him not to run through my yard while waving a rather sharp stick around, he gave me a look of such rage and hatred totally out of proportion to my message and the gentle but firm tone in which I gave it. That was three years ago and he continues to walk very defiantly through my property while staring at me with such cold hatred I can't believe it comes from a small child's face. I haven't said anything to his family. I am on good terms with the rest of them. The brother and a sister are fantastic kids. This kid is well behaved, too, with everyone else. He just has enmity for me and I've overheard him refer to our family in a sneering tone when he didn't know I could hear him. He didn't say anything bad, just that he didn't know us but he said it with a tone dripping with contempt. Apparently all because I once told him to not run with a sharp stick because he could hurt himself or my toddler. He was on my property uninvited anyway.

Oh I realized I gave an incomplete explanation earlier that might cause trouble so let me clarify. When I said I got in touch with my inner bitch I don't mean I started acting nasty to people as a preemptive strike. I mean that I realized these people were basically bullying me into feeling more shame and remorse for minor faux pas that they would and should ordinarily overlook after the initial mea culpas and apologies were given. And with this realization I felt empowered to say to them something like "Gee, I already apologized. Would you like an animal sacrifice to go along with my sincere apology or can we move on now please?" And though the words were clearly snarky I would deliver them with a smile and neutral tone.

I do have a good sense of humor and decent comedic timing to get myself out of a lot of social jams but sometimes I do run into those weird soulless people who seem out for my blood in an almost detached kind of way. I never really quite got what motivates people like that but when I saw a few of the articles on that Montalk site I linked to in my other post, it all kind of fell into place and I felt the guy who writes for that site had as good an explanation as any I'd ever seen to explain these "cruelbots".

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SheepFlavoredAgain

I just looked at the site you suggested www.montalk.net. I saw a section on Spiritless People, people who seem to lack empathy or compassion. To me, that explains 50% of the population in my opinion. I wonder if there is a large amount of this type of people and this is what we are dealing with, or maybe I am being negative myself now!

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Yes, thank you...the Spiritless People...I couldn't remember the term. I'm on an iPad and I don't use it very well yet so I have trouble looking up and linking properly to the references I mention in my posts.

I think a lot of the time when some of us feel gangstalked we are simply feeling the natural antipathy between our kinder and enlightenment-seeking natures and their more materialistic ones. Now of course I can't say with certainty that writer is correct in thinking these people lack a properly functioning spirit. We currently haven't any scientific way of stating with certainty such a thing even exists. While I believe in such things I like to keep a level playing field to accommodate those who don't.

But simple observation and common sense and a good dash of intuition can tell us that some people, for whatever reason, seem caught up exclusively in all things biological and materialistic. They follow typical pack or herd behavior and seem to lack the capacity for individual discernment that would enable them to appreciate a person who doesn't fit well into the group. Then some sort of pack instinct to isolate and destroy the "anomaly" seems to kick in and overrides any individual inclinations for friendship they could have felt if they weren't so invested in their pack and conformity to it.

I've been in the pack and out of it and can say I prefer to be on the outside doing my own thing. As long as I'm doing something productive and meaningful I can usually find other likeminded individuals to keep me company...when I want company. Inside, there is a lot of empty drivel which is why there is usually so much hedonistic behavior present to fill in the holes. Thats often why there is also some cruel behavior, to keep everyone united in covering up the holes and empty spaces. After all a pack or herd can't survive very well if it's weaknesses are exposed. And for those invested in the group and who equate their own ability to thrive with the survival of the group, their pack behavior will prevail no matter how ruthless and ugly it has to get.

There is also a bit of overlap between the "inside" and the "outside". Some ATS people fall in this space. They like to hang with the crowd and have some mindless fun but still preserve enough individuality to separate from the pack and do the right thing as they see it, vs. what the pack might dictate.

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SheepFlavoredAgain
Great post! Very well said. You made a lot of good points.
It is a shame that most people, or so it seems to me, feel the need to follow their egos at the expense of others. You would have thought that we would have evolved more by now for the better of society. I am afraid that it is only going to get worse.

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It would be Such a Pity to the plans of TPTB, if all the intelligent people of the nation were Confident... Wouldn't it?

I hear they keep records of IQ scores nowadays.... with all that fancy paper and whatnot.

I'm sure they might even follow people on-line to make sure that they stay demeaned, humiliated, dejected, and rejected.

Keeping them away from the Truth, as it were.

-Edrick (You are Not Alone)

I didn''t know there would be so many followups to this post. I haven't ready all of them yet to be honest.

But now that I got to thinking more.. the situation could also be the subliminal programming of the society such that they have been programmed to be incompatible with people of different vibrations such as people with knowledge, of science, spirituality and conspiracies.

Just look at the stereotypes, the really smart people are considered nerds, repressed, stuck up and materially unsuccessful, etc. the spiritual people are stuck up new agey weirdos with no foundational knowledge in science, conspiracy theorists are crazy paranoid schizophrenics. Even though much of that can be true, it also is contributed by the way society has been set up to steer these types of people in the direction of their chosen path in the 'conventional' way.

It can also be one fear of former shadow self being reflected on other people who are easy mirror you or your fears. I dont know. I could come up with many reasons. it's just been something for sure. But I have to let all these go.

Good stuff

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Oh there is definitely some social programming going on. Proof? Well duh...just look around. It's so obvious I'm amazed at the people who can't see it. So much of our media, pop culture, literature, advertising has elements in it that are designed to pit everyone against everyone else. Men vs. women, religion vs. religion vs. atheism and agnosticism. Citizens vs. legal immigrants vs. illegal immigrants. Races are being played against each other. Why else would so many of the existing laws that used to serve us well in the past to help people get along being scrapped or ignored. Why did we have social liberation movements and civil rights movements that were supposed to accomplish good things get mixed in with elements against all common sense that ended up tearing us apart and pitting us against one another?

We can believe it's all random and coincidental that all these elements converge at this point in time to make society so incredibly volatile and unstable or we can think there is some "intelligent design" to borrow a term, behind it all.

But for the sake of your mental health I would NOT get too caught up in thinking everything is specifically designed to make you, a particular individual, miserable. Don't start thinking you're alone. Isolation and a sense of helplessness and hopelessness plays into the hands of negative forces in our society. It will also be extremely detrimental to your brain chemistry. Instead, recognize that you have the recognition and affirmation of good kind people and that there are many others like yourself out there. Good people dealing with complete and utter buttmunches.

Cultivate your sense of humor. Learn to shrug off the things you can't change and learn that while you can't control certain things you can control your reactions to them. Focus on what you CAN do. Don't wallow in angst and fear over the things you can't do. When you do have moments of introspection and self awareness, focus on how you might be thinking and acting from a place of negativity and instead think of what ELSE you could be doing that is positive. Think how you can change your attitude to be more positive. And don't think it is futile. Never give up, never give in. Even if you worry you'll go down, at least go down fighting.

I've battled depression, I've battled bad circumstances, I've battled illness. I'm always swinging, dude. Always fighting. I come from a long line of fighters who battled much worse than I've ever had to see so far.

I've known personally and read of women from Africa who survived horrors beyond imagining. Mutilation of their bodies. Loved ones killed right in front of them. Yet somehow they show dignity, courage and warmth that defies what you'd expect of someone who survived what they did. Nothing about them says "I'm beaten". They've kept their faith in God when others would have cursed God for all that was permitted to happen to them. So to you I say, what's some social persecution from a bunch of idiots against all that? If those women can triumph, I'm sure you, who surely must have had more advantages than they, can surely do so. Find your inner strength and if you have a faith in God, call upon it. If not, tap into whatever positive elements you do have faith in.

And please do keep us posted on how you're doing. I've got this thread subscribed. I do genuinely care what happens to you and how you handle it all.

No, Seriously... Directed Gang stalking against the Intelligent and creative members of a society, in an attempt to keep them from gaining any real power is a DECIDEDLY well thought out attack strategy.

I mean, they have access to Test Records, and even Blood Samples from Birth.

Not to mention the Constant Global Wiretapping of projects like Echelon... I'm sure that their plan is to consolidate power in the western world by eliminating the intelligent competition, and turning the Fallen Western nations into recruiting grounds for their N.W.A.

Their New World Army.


It is a coordinate attack on Intelligence, I assure you...


You think it's a coincidence how Intelligence is portrayed, *ESPECIALLY* in regards to "Romantic" pursuits?


Let's see... the Social Structure of Any Primary School is structured around its *NON EDUCATIONAL* sports program.

You get the whole student body to Root for them... you give them lots of confidence, extra tutoring, cheerleaders......

Yeah... Educational.


"Leadership Skills" they claim.....


Yeah, Why just *THEM* for the leadership skills again?

Why not All of the Students? Why just this small clique?



-Edrick

Not all of us that are "New agey Weirdoes" are lacking in the science department. i have always had a strong background in science and quantum physics. History as well. I just have always been drawn to the paranormal and the occult since I was a very young kid. Setting up these presuppositions about how the world reacts to you and how you perceive the world is dangerous. I also suggest looking into NeuroLinguistic Programming. Realize the body language and verbal/visual communication you make. Study the language that you use to "create" your world. General Semantics will help you understand this. Change the language that you use, change your life. Take away the words "Can't,Is" etc or reduce any negative sounding words. Do what you can to allow yourself to have a more positive self image and FEEL that this rings true inside you. If you are paranoid and believe that all this negative stuff is going to happen then you may fully well be attracting that behavior due to that is your filter of the world" I am a Victim" Change it and map out the world you want and let that resonate. Open your mind to new knowledge and philosophies and let them help you find you way. you will be fine in the end. I doubt it is Psyops. Look into and talk to your Doc about a multivitamin, a B supplement, niacin,Magnesium Glycinate, and drinking 10 glasses of water a day. Get some sleep , try meditation, and work out,yoga,walk everyday. Should help make you healthy mentally and physically. As you feel better about yourself you can allow a more positive world to come in. Look into Robert Anton Wilson's Cosmic Trigger, Prometheus Rising, and Quantum Psychology. Best of luck.

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-Edrick (Thanks)

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Realize the body language and verbal/visual communication you make

Remember, Appearing Confident in yourself is actually more important than being able to DO anything useful.


Which explains our political landscape.... it's a popularity contest, as opposed to a job interview.

-Edrick

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When people say 'attraction' as in the law of attraction.. many people just dont get what it means. Many are even prone to act "holier than thou" and use is hypocritically against others when they are not experiencing any problem yet don't know why it is and the others are.

I don't think so much that it is the universe as something external to you that is bringing about the things which you hold in mind.

It is just that, when you hold a particular idea in your mind the subconscious looks to prove it. Even if it is fear, fear of something means you believe it might or it could happen, and the more you fear the more you focus on that, the more your subsconscious is seeking to prove that your fear comes true. The stronger the feeling about something (ie like fear) the more energy you give to the idea.

Then there is the New Age idea that You are Everything because Everything is One, THAT'S where the idea of Universe as being something 'external' to you bringing out the things which you hold in mind, because in actuality the whole reality is actually an entire thought as well.

I think this is something all mind control victims need to learn and incorporate, it would help.

Because I believe there is mind control technnology that can take advantage of a person's 'negativity' or 'fear' and use it against them, as a signal to 'let them in' their minds. NeuroCom. So by fearing mind control tactics, it latches on to that energy, it also takes that as a signal that you are LETTING it manifest in your life because you believe it so. you fear it so you let the possibility become real, because you believe you may be victim to it.

This I think is very dangerous.