I just saw Fahrenheit 9/11....

nanna_of_6, it was an excerpt from an article.
I didn't say that.

Sorry, but Saddam knew he shouldn't have any of those, including what his forces fired at the coalition. That and the fact that we, and the UN, found banned parts that he, and his loyalists, quickly tried to get rid of or hide tells us that he did have more, and was probably trying to build or get more.

If there were missiles and wmd that were banned from Iraq, do you think that they would only have "some parts that were banned"?

stockpiles of ready-to-go WMDs.

Whether he was going to do something in the future, we can speculate as you have.

Whether he had something else and covered it up, we can speculate as you have.

But the truth is, we don't know until we find them, so its futile to keep running in circles like this claiming that we find stockpiles of WMDs or even one until we do.

But we shouldn't have been lied to in the first place. Bush and co. made some strong assertions as the number 1 reason to go to war. He should have just said, lets go free these people, case closed.

Originally posted by Muaddib


www.cbsnews.com...

Those missiles and the parts that were found in scrap yards and in Iraq were all banned parts and missiles.






You really do need to come up with info., thats not so old, if you want to prove your point. Something that happened back in the 1980's and 1991 has nothing what so ever to do with that jackxss Bush's decision to attacking Iraq , when he infested the White House. Unless of course what your showing is back when Daddy Bush was in office and Saddam put a "hit" out on Daddy Bush, and sonny-boy Jr. decided , the day he infested the white house that he was going to get Saddam,.... no matter what the cost .
So here we are back to sq.1,..... bush ordered the attack on Iraq for personel reason's and corperate gain,.... and used our family-member to get what he was after, at all cost....... no matter how many people and troops died in the process. Here's an paragraph from the "site" you gave.





Iraq told U.N. inspectors in its December weapons declaration that it no longer had the Scud missiles it used against Iran in the 1980s and against Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Israel during the 1991 Gulf War.

nanna that last link i gave was from something that happened in this war, not on 1991. Look at the date of the link.

" NEW YORK, March 20, 2003"

Excerpted from.
www.cbsnews.com...


They are even talking of the Gulf War, in 1991, in past tense.

[edit on 29-6-2004 by Muaddib]

Besides Bush Jr, and brothers Neil and Jeb , learned from Bush Sr, who learned from Prescott Bush, how to sneak,lie,and to hide their corruptive ways pretty good,.......... but alass, Prescott and his partners in crime got caught in their dealing with helping Hitler , and Bush Sr,.... well he just didn't have back-bone to start with, but Jr. here......... him & his thugs are just being totally deceptive with the people of the USA and other countries.
So all we really have out of the bush clan is a fat bag of rotten apples

I see.....so evidence is presented, from other reliable sources that are not the US, and its a lie concieved by the US.....typical.

Originally posted by FreeMason ATSluvDruid, I've been here more than a year before you even came, in fact, I don't even know who the hell you are. So how the hell you know me is amazing. (No actually it isn't, I'm legendary. FreeMason is as much a part of ATS as much as it is the only forum really worth his time.)

BACK OFF You've also been banned several times, and began your time here as a serious troll who found ATS "because you were playing too much Warcraft". You're a returning banned member, and banned several times under serveral names, allowed to come and participate on our good graces. Please remember that. "FreeMason's" part in ATS is a multi-named Troll who perhaps may have learned maturity... we shall see.

Originally posted by nanna_of_6
Besides Bush Jr, and brothers Neil and Jeb , learned from Bush Sr, who learned from Prescott Bush, how to sneak,lie,and to hide their corruptive ways pretty good,.......... but alass, Prescott and his partners in crime got caught in their dealing with helping Hitler

, and Bush Sr,.... well he just didn't have back-bone to start with, but Jr. here......... him & his thugs are just being totally deceptive with the people of the USA and other countries.
So all we really have out of the bush clan is a fat bag of rotten apples

Nanna........ I have presented this before. There are always people that tend to exagerate reports trying to sell their own agenda/propaganda.

" Prescott Bush was one of seven directors of Union Banking Corp, a New York investment bank owned by a bank controlled by the Thyssen family, according to recently declassified National Archives documents. Fritz Thyssen was an early financial supporter of Hitler, whose Nazi party Thyssen believed was preferable to communism.

There is no evidence that Prescott Bush directly aided that effort, and his position with Union Banking was never a political issue for Mr Bush, who was elected to the Senate from Connecticut in 1952.

Excerpted from.
www.smh.com.au...

My guess is that you think that every family that has a business in south Florida must be part of the Russian mafia, since it is known that the Russian mafia rules in South FLorida, well in Miami that is.....

[edit on 29-6-2004 by Muaddib]

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
"FreeMason's" part in ATS is a multi-named Troll who perhaps may have learned maturity... we shall see.

I love how you publicly humiliated him instead of taking it to him in a mature u2u or with a warning.

Simply stunning.

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
"FreeMason's" part in ATS is a multi-named Troll who perhaps may have learned maturity... we shall see.

I love how you publicly humiliated him instead of taking it to him in a mature u2u or with a warning. I'm serious. I really did love it! Sometimes the hammer has to fall, and everyone has to hear the *thud*

[edit on 29-6-2004 by curme]

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
"FreeMason's" part in ATS is a multi-named Troll who perhaps may have learned maturity... we shall see.

I thought there were rules for name calling. "Multi-named troll" sounds like name calling to me.

Hey! Sometimes dirt must be thrown. and sometimes, the opportunity is just TOO perfect to pass up. Skeptic- thank you for making someone smile amisdt all of the anger and frustration

Originally posted by Scat
Hey! Sometimes dirt must be thrown. and sometimes, the opportunity is just TOO perfect to pass up. Skeptic- thank you for making someone smile amisdt all of the anger and frustration

Hey, I too have felt an opportunity was too perfect to pass up, but I did because the mods are coming on the boards saying not to name call. I guess it's do as I say, not as I do.

[edit on 6/30/2004 by EnronOutrunHomerun]

well, I never pass up an opportunity, and it has gotten me into trouble sometimes. such as my friends making bets on who will win the fight between me and some stupid chick i had to throw some dirt at.

but oh god...it was funny...and perfect.

Originally posted by curme
I love how you publicly humiliated him instead of taking it to him in a mature u2u or with a warning.

Keep on plagarizing me. You do know thats agains the rules? I just love it when you take my words and don't give me a credit.

This thread is gonna be locked if it keeps on this path.

Originally posted by EnronOutrunHomerun
I've seen this FreeMason guy in action...he comes off as an underfed, weakling, bow-legged, ten-inch "reading glasses" nerd that got spoiled by his parents and beat up by his friends and his only claim to fame is that he spent four years diligently studying for a BS in PS...

...join the club man!

You were obviously warned for this rediculous comment, but I have got to ask you, how can you tell all of that by the way someone posts? I am sure you could get a job at the FBI or something with skills like that, NOT!!!

I was - unfairly too I think seeing as how the "administrator" freely voiced his opinion in the public forum. Like I said in my other thread, the one were I introduced myself to everyone seeing how this is my first day on the boards, that I've seen how he treats other people in conversations and he's very rude.

I don't really care...I just thought I'd voice my opinion - why don't they start talking abou the movie again - this is totally off topic...I sent the person who warned me a little "u2u" about what I thought of their actions, but if I'm not booted and you still think what I said about FreeMason was wrong then you can U2U me if you want - but I would not say something rude like that unless I meant it

How about we get back on topic and save everyone a few more warnings?

Heres a starter-

Michael Moore's timing in opening this movie- smart or dumb? Any good reason or just because the movie ws finished? THoughts?

Originally posted by nyarlathotep
[how can you tell all of that by the way someone posts? I am sure you could get a job at the FBI or something with skills like that, NOT!!!

I like FreeMason.

And it is relatively simple to conclude some things about people from their general style, their reactions to particular stimuli, and the extraction of specific things from them under pressure and interrogation of core tenets.

What has been said in "judgment" of FreeMason has all been said many times before. You can see it by reading deeper into his posting background at ATS. It is an interesting and varied history of many "Masonic" identities he has used.