Literally everything we have been conditioned to believe about reality is BS

Since our earliest memories, we, as a society, have been programmed and manipulated to believe in a solid world, in which we are experiencing a seemingly seperate, 'out there' reality.

This is propegated and enforced through our curricular teachings, our religious establishments, and our media.

When discussing the nature of reality and our perception of it, a very limited and structured scope is the only one which is 'accepted' by these above entities, who in large part form the basis of shaping our societal paradigms.

We are taught that we are a solid physical being, and that our brains are all that make up 'who' we are.

We are much, MUCH more than this.

Our brains are merely an interface for consciousness. They are like a complex computer in which we access a 'virtual reality'. Nothing we actually percieve occurs on the 'outside' of us, but are a complex, end-result of bio-chemical-electrical impulses from stimuli, which wind up being decoded and percieved INSIDE of our computer (brain), which is completely encased in darkness (our skull).

Therefore, the 'reality' you are experiencing and thinkng to be 'out there', is NOT. It is 'in here'. This sounds exceptionally simple, but how many people actually think about this, and its implications? All that we experience and believe to be real is subject to our bio-computers ability to process and decode information. But what if it is limited in its capacity to take in ALL information? Based on my own personal experience, I believe it is---very much so.

It would seem that some of the early scientists and physicists seem to concur:

Quantum physicist Max Planck, when studying the building block of 'matter'---The Atom---Came to startling conclusions, not only of what this particle is composed of, but HOW it is composed, and how CONSCIOUSNESS is behind it, and everything else concievable. Some of his findings and thoughts (which recieve almost ZERO mention in any of our textbooks or media):

*“All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force... We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter."

**‎"I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness. "

***‎"Science cannot solve the ultimate mystery of nature. And that is because, in the last analysis, we ourselves are part of nature and therefore part of the mystery that we are trying to solve."

Also, Albert Einstein, considered to be one of the greatest minds in recent history, issued the following statement of reality, consciousness, and our perception of things:

Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a persistent one."

I encourage anyone QUESTIONING these things, and curious for answers, to explore your own consciousness, at every chance you get: Things such as meditation, Astral projection, remote viewing, etc., will help you experience the deeper nature of what you are. More importantly, these exersizes and explorations give you direct experience of things, rather than relying on others to tell you, or shape your view on things. Remember---NO ONE KNOWS MORE THAN >>YOU

Originally posted by DimensionalDetective
I encourage anyone QUESTIONING these things, and curious for answers, to explore your own consciousness, at every chance you get: Things such as meditation, Astral projection, remote viewing, etc., will help you experience the deeper nature of what you are. More importantly, these exersizes and explorations give you direct experience of things, rather than relying on others to tell you, or shape your view on things. Remember---NO ONE KNOWS MORE THAN >>YOU

reply to post by KILL_DOGG


Awesome. You have YOUR take on reality, I have mine. Stick with what works for you, I will stick with works for me. I know my own truths, based upon my own experiences, and NOTHING you nor anyone else 'tells me' is going to erase what I have experienced directly.

This is why I encourage EVERYONE to find their own truths, through direct experience. Don't take mine, nor anyone else's word for it---Explore it and experience it for yourself. You may find nothing, or you may discover untold wonders. But no one knows your truth but YOU.

Much love.

Originally posted by DimensionalDetective
Awesome. You have YOUR take on reality, I have mine. Stick with what works for you, I will stick with works for me. I know my own truths, based upon my own experiences, and NOTHING you nor anyone else 'tells me' is going to erase what I have experienced directly.

This is why I encourage EVERYONE to find their own truths, through direct experience. Don't take mine, nor anyone else's word for it---Explore it and experience it for yourself. You may find nothing, or you may discover untold wonders. But no one knows your truth but YOU.

Much love.

Spoken like a true Prophet my friend. I can dig your truth.

Judge not, love all, be at peace

With Love,

Your Brother

reply to post by KILL_DOGG



yada, yada...


You bring nothing to the table...not even worthy rhetoric.





All DD did was offer an alternative avenue to those 'looking' for it - you don't like it, fine, it's not for you, but attacking the OP on your basis is green...


Kidna like your post in this thread www.abovetopsecret.com...

Nothing like having to back track when you realize you're the dumbest one in the thread, huh..?


And your shirt should say watered down as you seem to only be able to debunk yourself.





On Topic:

Thanks for the 411 DD...

those videos were very uplifting and truthful.
I watched all 7 parts. My favorite bit was when they said "I love you" to the water molecules, sending positive energy to it, and the water formed into geometric shapes, but when they said negative things like "I hate you you make me sick" the water looked sloshed about and deformed.

That freaked me out a little, because I've heard people spewing negativity about like it is nothing. To see something so small react so strongly to emotion, it just makes me reconsider what type of energy I am putting out, and those around me.

Good stuff! S&F!!

Originally posted by facelift
reply to post by KILL_DOGG

 

yada, yada...


You bring nothing to the table...not even worthy rhetoric.

All DD did was offer an alternative avenue to those 'looking' for it - you don't like it, fine, it's not for you, but attacking the OP on your basis is green...


Kidna like your post in this thread www.abovetopsecret.com...

Nothing like having to back track when you realize you're the dumbest one in the thread, huh..?


And your shirt should say watered down as you seem to only be able to debunk yourself.

Good lord, it's really sad when people get their panties in a twist when people don't agree with their point of view. I admited my mistake in the above mentioned thread, but I withdraw nothing of what I said above. People who get into this whole new age spiritual crap are only deluding themselves.

I simply think (THINK, not know) that people are so desperate for something fantastic to present itself to them that they're willing to believe just about anything. Let's face it, real life is boring. You work, you play, you sleep, and you die. That's pretty much it. Some of it's fun, a little of it is great, but nothing really fantasical really happens. This is when people start believing in aliens living on Earth, or inside it as the case may be. That we're capable of things like remote viewing or telekenisis are delusions of people who simply cannot accept that they're normal.

So, if you're dont post stalking, I'll move along to another thread with my watered down rhetoric and leave you to your own.

I dont think you can truly believe something until you have experienced it, i do the zena cards and other little guessing games like guess the colour of the cigarette paper packet before you open the the tobacco pouch and eight out of ten times im correct, i cant put this down to coincidence which means i must have a small amount of psychic power, my point is there MUST be more than this three dimensional reality,more than the stimulas our five senses percieve, there has to be, otherwise how could i do that? (and i dont live in a house full of crystals and all that jazz), im a logical thinker who likes some proof. By the way OP that comment about the brain being encased in a skull and being in total darkness is very powerful (i cant get it out of my head, sorry about the pun), it makes you realise that your mind/brain isnt seeing anything, your eyes are and passing the stimulus to your brain. The more of this sort of thing i read the more i know that i am some sort of conciousness occupying this body.

Originally posted by KILL_DOGGThe problem is that there is no such thing as astral projection nor remote viewing. They don't exist and are mearly the product of over-active imaginations.

One could argue that our perception of reality is the product of an over-active imagination. The only thing I know for sure is that there is a very fine line between the real world and the dream world, and a similarly fine line between the perception of these "realities."

Meditation is way more powerful and useful than a simple relaxation technique. Anybody can close their eyes and breathe slowly - but not everybody can truly reach a meditative state.

What most people don't get, is that there IS nothing to get.......

reply to post by thedoctorswife


Yes! And I will take it even a step further (again, based solely on my own direct experience) : I feel that this body / brain 'vehicle' is INSIDE of the totality of what I am. Almost like a 3 dimensional projection, or hologram. I feel that what I am is projecting this vehicle, as well as all it percieves, within this construct, and is using it to experience and evolve in some way.

reply to post by Dimensional11:11Detective


if you haven't seen it, bill hicks- a positive grug story is worth a chuckle- www.youtube.com...

i think john lennon said it best- "a dream we dream alone is just a dream, a dream we dream together is reality."

i think everything you've said i agree with, but at the same time, it might be slightly different, more to it, more dimensions... and all that. it certainly makes life more interesting.

fingers crossed enough people can start using their brains and help tip the balance in the direction of humanity!

love and big up your chest

I am a babyboomer and most likely older than most of you. I have spent my life with a dose of this and a dose of that - I still do. I have aways loved new experiences -many that have opened new channels of living for me. I venture out into the real world as some call it but I take my newfound experiences with me and I am happiest when I return to investigate and conquer new worlds.



Thanks for this thread OP - hope it opens some eyes!

reply to post by DimensionalDetective


Thank You !

I must say this is close to the reality that we are kept away from.
So for anyone seeking to broaden their view a tiny bit, look a little closer into these theories, and come back with your stories and experiences to share with us !

reply to post by KILL_DOGG


"You only get one spin on this ball of dirt so you might as well have some fun while you're here because none of us are getting out alive."

After meditating researching, reading, living,I have come to this same conclusion. When I think about all the billions of people here now, and before, and each and everyone of the billions die, some living very short lives, what the h? Might as well make the best of it, and enjoy what we can.

reply to post by DimensionalDetective
Can you elaborate a little further, im not sure i understand the bit about the body being inside your soul and being a hollogram, Sorry im having a slow night.

Atoms are our canvas. In other words, we paint the world around us with our mind. That beautiful mountain you like to hike, is not actually beautiful at all. It is the programming in our mind that was designed by an intelligence, perhaps an intelligence of cellular origin (but I would be hard pressed to say the cellular intelligence is the root, or in other words came out of a random occurence), that calculates various elements of this mountain against a set of variables embedded within your very brain and if these variables match up against the mathematics, your brain associates the complex joy you feel with the mountain which causes you to think it is beautiful.

Nice thraed OP, I don't think I'll ever tire of threads like this, no matter how often they appear! Never fails to put a smile on my face!

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Regarding your signature.. Just before I read it I updated my facebook status to 'heres tom with the weather', because someone further up mentioned Bill Hicks... Then you'll never guess which 14 minute song came on, on random. And to think, some people believe in coincidences!

reply to post by DimensionalDetective

Since our earliest memories, we, as a society, have been programmed and manipulated to believe in a solid world, in which we are experiencing a seemingly seperate, 'out there' reality.

Well, to be perfectly honest, for the past thousands of years spiritual and religious ideas have dictated what we thought about reality. Pretty much all concepts included some form of spirit and God Head in it's belief structure.

This is propegated and enforced through our curricular teachings, our religious establishments, and our media.

Not all religious establishments advocate a materialistic reality, with a few preaching that materialism is nothing more than an illusion. Science preaches materialism as science establishes facts of reality based on objectively looking at reality without blindly creating facts on faith alone that those facts are true.

When discussing the nature of reality and our perception of it, a very limited and structured scope is the only one which is 'accepted' by these above entities, who in large part form the basis of shaping our societal paradigms.

We are taught that we are a solid physical being, and that our brains are all that make up 'who' we are.

We are much, MUCH more than this.

Blah blah blah ... Matrix rocks... blah blah blah... I am the one... blah blah blah... I know more than those scientists with my limited education.

Moving on.

Our brains are merely an interface for consciousness. They are like a complex computer in which we access a 'virtual reality'. Nothing we actually percieve occurs on the 'outside' of us, but are a complex, end-result of bio-chemical-electrical impulses from stimuli, which wind up being decoded and percieved INSIDE of our computer (brain), which is completely encased in darkness (our skull).

If materialism is all a lie, then brains technically don't exist. Your argument is thus meaningless to the previous point you tried to raise. If you are going to dismiss materialism, then try not to use it by claiming it's an interface for something you blindly claim is immaterial.

Therefore, the 'reality' you are experiencing and thinkng to be 'out there', is NOT. It is 'in here'. This sounds exceptionally simple, but how many people actually think about this, and its implications? All that we experience and believe to be real is subject to our bio-computers ability to process and decode information. But what if it is limited in its capacity to take in ALL information? Based on my own personal experience, I believe it is---very much so.

You should read up on neuroscience. You might learn a lot.... might....

It would seem that some of the early scientists and physicists seem to concur:

Quantum physicist Max Planck, when studying the building block of 'matter'---The Atom---Came to startling conclusions, not only of what this particle is composed of, but HOW it is composed, and how CONSCIOUSNESS is behind it, and everything else concievable. Some of his findings and thoughts (which recieve almost ZERO mention in any of our textbooks or media):

*“All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force... We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter."

**‎"I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness. "

***‎"Science cannot solve the ultimate mystery of nature. And that is because, in the last analysis, we ourselves are part of nature and therefore part of the mystery that we are trying to solve."

Also, Albert Einstein, considered to be one of the greatest minds in recent history, issued the following statement of reality, consciousness, and our perception of things:

Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a persistent one."

Interestingly enough, such narcissistic default musings were thought up by primitive peoples thousands of years ago... All without discovering the atom, relativity, science, medicines, etc. Interestingly enough, they also thought bad spirits made one sick.

I encourage anyone QUESTIONING these things, and curious for answers, to explore your own consciousness, at every chance you get: Things such as meditation, Astral projection, remote viewing, etc., will help you experience the deeper nature of what you are. More importantly, these exersizes and explorations give you direct experience of things, rather than relying on others to tell you, or shape your view on things. Remember---NO ONE KNOWS MORE THAN >>YOU

reply to post by DimensionalDetective


Descartes' Evil Demon argument and the subsequent Brain in A Vat argument is consistent with the nature of this post. I believe the Cartesian Method of Doubt is extremely meaningful. However, if we do not allow our imaginations from conducting such "if" "then" experiments then we are extremely limiting our understanding and its potential.