Aliens Have Never Visited Earth! Alien Spacecraft Have Never Visited.

reply to post by rodge2001


yes you can, can you PROVE something exists, with proof, and you can disprove something by doing the same thing, and he just disproved your idea, which makes no sence like any other reilgion, its based on faith

reply to post by shasta9600


aliens arent visting, if there are ufos, its manmade, weather present day or from WAYYY in the future, if these "greys" are real, then they do they kinda look like us? people wearing costumes? or just what we will evolve into?

Originally posted by Anthony1138
reply to post by AtruthGuy

 

That was very well said, finally someone who states the obvious, i bet some wacko will call you a disinfo agent, like they call anyone who proves thier ideas wrong.

That is a huge probelm with our species, since the dawn of man one thing has plagued us, magical thinking.
We believed that gods angels and devils have been around forever, now its replaced by aliens or ghosts or "magical voices in your head"

This isnt the product of advanced activity, this is the product of a species that is mentally retarded, litterly.
Most likely we could be seen as the universes retards, the species that never quite tell what was real and what was made up in thier head.

We long for a purpose, so we decive oursevles into thinking there is one, when none is evident. Maybe we should reach for a worthy goal if we crave for some cosmic purpose? Not just expecting aliens to give us a freeride, because there are no free rides, we must make our own, and leave if we actully want to see whats our there.

God isnt coming to save us from our ways, nor are aliens, this change must be made completely by us, you cant hold your kids hand everywhere they go, eventaully you must let go and see if they fall on thier faces.

Personally i want to live to see something cool where man lives on mars or something, not a future where people believe voices in thier head, that isnt an alien talking to you that is called schizophrenia, and no its not a super power or a 6th sence, like many seem to believe.

Or a better option, kill all the mentally retarded people, and those with small gene pools, so we can actully make progress in our goals without it being hampered by so many people refusing to work and living off welfare, eatting up taxpayers money, which is a serious issues with our econemy, they produce nothing to our socitey, thus they should not be a part of it.

Can you really deny my logic on this?

I'm sure you are aware of the fact that even a Moron, could know something you do not.
The things you say, are in part much like what Hitler put upon the people of Germany.

Well I bet this dude doesn't smoke pot, but I do and Ive never seen an alien. It almost seems like pent up rage on the issue.

The things you say, are in part much like what Hitler put upon the people of Germany.

That's being a bit dramatic...I thought it was a pretty insightful presentation...Magical thought is a common practice. Especially here on ATS. I have never witnessed so much speculation disguised as fact, concerning the existence of Aliens, as I have here on ATS. It seems to dominate the forums, to the point of endangering the legitimacy of this site.

Originally posted by Anthony1138
reply to post by shasta9600

 

aliens arent visting, if there are ufos, its manmade, weather present day or from WAYYY in the future, if these "greys" are real, then they do they kinda look like us? people wearing costumes? or just what we will evolve into?

This is something that for me, unless I see one with my own two eyes, I'm not buying it. Then, if I do see them, I still won't accept anything that they say, in terms of who they are, where they are from, or who created them, without concrete solid proof.

The way things have gone so far throughout history, the secrecy and 'doubletalk' forces me to come to the conclusion that there's a sinister agenda and reason for deception.

It would take a lot more than a mutant freak that looks "alien" walking off a UFO to get me to completely change.

reply to post by Anthony1138
Did you check out the picture of space ship on Moon, the pictures are from NASA, could be a big rock or someting else.
I knew a guy who was a Teacher at public school, he said the aliens picked him up all the time, I have never seen a alien that I can remember, it would be logical to assume, that aliens exist. I truely doubt we were,are the fist life form to develop in the universe.
If you speak to some of the bible people they say that God made earth before he made the heavens, what is strange though is that they say we are near the center of the universe, at least by their perspective or vantage point were close to center.

If there we aliens they should look a lot like us just because of construction standards, I would also think about when both, USSR and USA had aproblem with things messing with their missle systems. T may of been part of what help slow down the cold war.
They could be walking right amongst us, we would never know if they were that advanced.

You know the humans need to make plans to get off Earth very soon, are we already Star childern or is that what we are to become.

reply to post by jambatrumpet
I was refer to killing retared people, in my reference to Hitler, that is what he did to the people in the mental hosipitals he murdered all of them he could.

reply to post by googolplex

I see your point. I thought he was being sarcastic, but maybe he wasn't. If he wasn't being sarcastic about killing all the retarded people, than, yes, your statement is totally justified....

reply to post by jambatrumpet
I don't know but if your talking about it, that's what you will be doing next if possible.
And I da.

reply to post by cdesigns


I have never seen this video, and I have to say if this is not cgi then how could this not be proof?

reply to post by BrundleFly


agreed, maybe If he fired one up his mind may open just a little bit.

Personally, I've had many sightings, some of those involved contact.
What I have noticed is that the different craft I've seen came from different levels of technology,
which suggests to me that they are different species from different planets. I could be wrong as
they could be craft with different purposes.

Earth certainly advertises it's position in the galaxy and invites everyone to know of our existence.
This may be a good thing in some ways and perhaps not in others. If sub atomic chain triggering is what science believe's it to be, the entire galaxy and probably several others know by now.

I am very intrigued by some of the theories proposed by scientists and contactee's about mind control and it's implications. In the old testiment is a story about hundreds of thousands of enemy soldiers that were so frightened by the unbearable ear shattering sound of opposing soldiers approaching on horseback and chariot that they went wild and began running away and killing one another.. It was just sound according to scripture used by the Lord to frighten the enemy into fear,suicide, and genocide..

I had an experience that may interest you along these lines of thought.
I was driving south on I-95 in central florida a 7:00 AM when suddenly I saw a V shaped craft that I would judge to be 20 miles from wing tip to wing tip.
It was falling straight down toward earth approximately 20 miles due south of my position.
It was on fire and would crash within seconds. I slid on brakes and pulled to the side of the road and crouched in the floorboard. No others vehicles responded to this UFO, and you can imagine how foolish I felt.. There was no explosion ! I sat back up to see the results of the crash and there was nothing.
No Crash! No Nothing! I scoured UFO reports in NUFON and found that 8 other drivers along the I-95 corridor had experienced the very same illusion at different locations ranging as far away as 100 miles from my location! I pondered the thought of mind control and the effects of mass hysteria..

reply to post by strawboss2

Too bad you never thought to grab a photo with your cellphone...Not knowing you personally, it's tough to have faith in your encounters...

Wow, this whole thread has proven very discouraging.

Are we really doing this?

If it does come down to the matter of wanting to believe, then by all means, let them believe.

If it comes down to you not wanting to be wrong? It's time to learn you can't have it your way all the time.

I mean seriously, it's evident by reading this that those participating in these arguments and counter arguments, that neither side seems willing to admit defeat, so why fight this fight?

To jab back at the OP, it's time to find a new hobby.

But ultimately, the choice is a individual thing. Do what you will.

reply to post by AtruthGuy


What is your take on panspermia?

There is a doctor that has removed alien implants from people. They are broadcasting radio signals on a deep space frequency.

There are tons of reports of objects moving over twice as fast as any aircraft we had at the time of the sightings. Alot of these sightings are from military or commercial airline pilots.

From my own research, I believe Majestic Twelve to have been a real organization. I believe they have been coming here for a long time.

WOW, the original poster is ignorant on many levels. Although I'm sure most of us have already made that observation. As someone put it before- Absence of proof is not proof of absence.

In response to the original poster and his message. He makes a massive leap in assumption as do many die-hard believers in the subject of aliens.
Let us just say for the sake of argument that the huge leap in thought the OP made on the Roswell crash is true. He assumed these beings were from far away, possibly millions of light years (his assumption). Why would these super intelligent beings crash?

1. Everyone makes mistakes, and in reality there are just too many variables to control everything. While the possibility of these creatures crashing may have been extraordinarily small....it still is a possibility.

2. Maybe these intelligent beings crashed on purpose. Maybe the best way to engage a primitive violent species is to make them think they have the upper hand, make them (the humans) think they have some control.

3. How is that a Venus flytrap catches it's food? It attracts prey using a false scent. What if the aliens crashed in order to infect us somehow? To trick us in to reverse engineering their technology. What if they were simply hosts to some kind of technology virus, and now we are infected and it is slowly taking over the world?

My point is that the possibilities are endless, and without the real facts NOBODY can make an assumption.
It is a fact however that the U.S. government is withholding information on the subject of UFOs. It is a fact that there are 1000s of well recorded UFO radar signatures. It is a FACT that 1000s of credible civilian/commercial/military witnesses to UFOs and aliens have come forward despite the threat of losing their careers, pensions, ridicule, imprisonment, and even death.

OP I beg you to wake up and and look around. If even ONE witness is telling the truth, you will be proven wrong.

reply to post by Vaykun


Hey jamba, I'm just a guy who was born seeing things and hearing things and feeling things that others didn't.

I've never known anthing but that. I have had a few interesting contacts with UFO's but keep most of what I have seen and heard to myself. I do enjoy this site as I have learned the experiences of others here. I can tell who has and who hasn't .
I post for those who have, as I know that they will enjoy the truth that I share with them as we are a kind of brotherhood who must cling to what we have and treasure what is real.

Not here to prove anything. Just to share mine and listen to their's. I couldn't think up a lie to top what I HAVE seen and heard... Eventually we will all know the truth....

Originally posted by The Scud plague.
It is a fact however that the U.S. government is withholding information on the subject of UFOs. It is a fact that there are 1000s of well recorded UFO radar signatures. It is a FACT that 1000s of credible civilian/commercial/military witnesses to UFOs and aliens have come forward despite the threat of losing their careers, pensions, ridicule, imprisonment, and even death.

OP I beg you to wake up and and look around. If even ONE witness is telling the truth, you will be proven wrong.

He never said the governement wasn't withholding information about UFO's and he also never said that UFO's do not exist and that there are not many credible witnesses. He never stated this at all.

I don't know why some of you guys always make this leap. A UFO, even an amazing "exotic" one, does not prove that it's from outerspace with an alien on board.