NASA caught manipulating photos

reply to post by cuthbert


lol if thats the kindof of photos our satelites are taking.. then maybe we are evolved from monkeys and the chimps are building the satelites

mmm.. maybe we should scrap nasa, make kodak or cannon our new space agency

Originally posted by hisshadow
I would just like to let NASA know, that camera's that take perfectly good color shots with just 1 shot have been around since the 70's and before, that you can go into any walmart and buy a camera from cheap to expensive that does not need to use 3 red/blue/green shots to make a color photo

that being said, who the hell is building these satelites the flintsones?

You do realize that those color cameras take color pictures because they have a fixed bayer-pattern color filter in front of the sensor. Basically 2/4 of the pixels have a fixed green filter, 1/4 a fixed red filter ad 1/4 a fixed blue filter.

The Cassini, on the other hand uses filter wheels with a selection of filters like this:

The Narrow Angle camera has 12 filters per wheel.
Filter Wheel 1 CL1
Clear RED
Red BL1
Blue band 1 UV2
Ultraviolet band 2 UV1
Ultraviolet band 1 IRP0
Infrared 0º polarizer P120
120º polarizer P60
60º polarizer P0
0º polarizer HAL
Hydrogen Alpha IR4
Infrared band 4 IR2
Infrared band 2

Filter Wheel 2 CL2
Clear GRN
Green UV3
Ultraviolet band 3 BL2
Blue band 2 MT2
Methane band 2 CB2
Continuum band 2 MT3
Methane band 3 CB3
Continuum band 3 MT1
Methane band 1 CB1
Continuum band 1 IR3
Infrared band 3 IR1
Infrared band 1

The Wide Angle camera has nine filters per wheel.
Filter Wheel 1 CL1
Clear IR3
Infrared band 3 IR4
Infrared band 4 IR5
Infrared band 5 CB3
Continuum band 3 MT3
Methane band 3 CB2
Continuum band 2 MT2
Methane band 2 IR2
Infrared band 2

Filter Wheel 2 CL2
Clear RED
Red GRN
Green BL1
Blue band 1 VIO
Violet HAL
Hydrogen Alpha IRP90
Infrared 90º polarizer IRP0
Infrared 0º polarizer IR1
Infrared band 1

saturn.jpl.nasa.gov...

Do you really need an explanation why filter wheels with numerous different filters are a more preferrable option than a fixed filter pattern that can only take color pictures?

reply to post by MacAnkka


haha doesnt seem like its preferable for this thread

Originally posted by hisshadow
reply to post by MacAnkka

 

haha doesnt seem like its preferable for this thread

Funny.

But seriously, they didn't send the spacecraft there just to take pretty color pictures. Being able to take pictures with a lot of other wavelengths than visible light was a pretty important consideration. Bayer filtered sensor would have made that a lot harder.

If you go to the JPL faq it states, "When the cameras take an image of something like a moon with a very bright Saturn just out of view, light shining from the planet can reflect off parts of the inside of the camera and onto the sensor. The inside of each camera is coated with a black non-reflective substance to minimize this scattered light. Still, some light does get in and the result can be rays or large fuzzy circles of light."

The effect is so obvious I tend to believe this. Had it been a ufo or something I sure they would have done a better job at hiding it.

saturn.jpl.nasa.gov...

Nothing new.

Jim Marrs, Richard Hoagland and Joseph Farrell have been saying for years that NASA has been lying to the American People and the world all along about what they found on the moon and what is going on, on the moon and outer space in connection with variuos aliens and ancient artifacts.

Yes there really are UFO's (not man made) and yes there is an alien agenda.

NASA and our government just don't want us to know. Read Jim Marrs's book, "Alien Agenda", Richard Hoagland's "Dark Mission" and Joseph Farrel's "Cosmic War".

Here is a interview with Richard Hoagland.

Google Video Link

How do you control people? Through controlling their information.

People on ATS laughed at previous posts concerning NASA's lying to us. Well, there really are UFO's, alien agenda, hollow moon, space wars and an alien agenda.

We, the common people are being kept in the dark.

Franspeak did this thread quite a while back trying to alert everyone. Maybe this thread should be moved under her original thread.www.abovetopsecret.com... in order to bring all the information under one roof and to build one thread upon the other.

The reality you see on CNN is not the real reality. The films and photos you see from NASA almost all have been tampered with. Why? And no I don't think to make them prettier. NASA is hiding stuff from us pure and simple. They do it by half truths (which is a fancy word for a lie). I worked for a corporation that told half truths. That is how TPTB operate.

Who really runs the show at NASA? Read Dark Missions. Hoagland identifies the three power groups under the NASA emblem as:

The Nazis
The Masons
The Magicians

Surpressed knowledge..........and for all scientists, if you want to stay in the game and get funded (earn a living) you play the game "their way" or no way. You lie.

Now, as I have stated before, if you are married or have a significant other and caught them in a lie or even a half truth about something important, not once, not twice but several times, wouldn't you consider somethings up? Wouldn't you start questioning your significant other's credibility?

So how come many of you, after our governments have been caught in lie after lie after lie after lie still believe a lot of the bs?

Hello out there wake the frak up..............we, the common person on the street that has to work in order to survive and pay taxes (some of which goes to NASA) have been lied to on a continuing bases.

There's a lot more going on than TPTB want us to know.

Every thread here on ATS about UFO's and alien agenda is met with much ridicule by the very people that refuse to wake up and realize we are in a controlled, locked down Matrix.

Yes there is such a thing as mind conditioning, our water is florinated to dumb us down. Yes there are cell towers that do more than send signals for your cell phone. Yes Haarp and Project Blue Beam do exist. Yes there is already technology for free abundant clean energy. Yes there are artifacts and documents that have been kept from the general public (Read Farrell's books-the guy is a genius) that would show humanity's true history. And yes while the Nazi's appear to have lost the war, they really won.............America brought the scientist over here and it is their lineage philosophy that continues to this day and run NASA as well as our society secretly. Don't believe me? It's okay to read our e-mails, tap our phones, cameras on every street corner, false news reports, lies and half truths are now "acceptable'. People are disappearing and being thrown in jail for stupid reasons. We are being systematically controlled and that control is being slowly tightened year by year for "National Security" (National Security sounds more like a Nazi term to me than anything).

But the lies continue because it is the lies that control us.

And yes NASA lies to us. If you watch this old video from around 2007 Hoagland states several major lies NASA has said.

"Lie to me once, shame on you. Lie to me twice, shame on me." How about lie to all of us many times?

The lie has to be different at every level in order for the entire assemblage of lies to ultimately control all the rest of us and to contain the truth. And by “contain” I don’t mean "encapsulate", I mean suppress it. Keep it away. - Richard Hoagland

The question is why are we being lied to, what is the real agenda and who is sitting at the top of the pyramid?

For anyone out there really wanting an eye opener, read Joseph Farrell's book, "Cosmic War".

Again, I think this thread out to be combined with Franspeak's because it would offer all the information

Hoagland talks about how the astronauts all complain about not having total recall of their missions...........yes there is mind control technology being used. That's a major conspiracy in and of itself.

The average person is 40 years or more behind knowing about the "real technology". There is so much more going on we are not being told, lied to and told half truths.

I collect quotes and have several House quotes (TV series House)

"Everybody lies."
"I don't ask why patients lie, I just assume they all do."
"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."
"I've found that when you want to know the truth about someone that someone is probably the last person you should ask."

Now, I'm going out on a limb here and venture a real wild guess.

How come with all the stupid "accidents" (BP Oil Gush, The Red Sludge Spill going into the Rhine now), all the other stuff polluting our earth, wrecking our planet.....................how come TPTB simply don't care.

I have only been around big fish in little ponds, people with a little power are careful, real careful. They don't have "accidents", they plan every single detail down to the microscopic. My guess is the real big fish in the real big ponds, the people (or others ?) that have real power are even more meticulous. My guess is we have possibly already colonized the moon. If and when TSHTF here on earth how much you want to bet a small number of "the elite" will have a ticket to jump the planet.

Last video is a three minute interview with a person who worked as a slave in the rocket program under the Nazis.

Google Video Link

The last video shows the foundation upon which NASA was built and it's connection with Nazi Germany

reply to post by Krusty the Klown

NASA's explanations about why they adjust the RGB settings and layers are accurate.

Original Site & Image:
Astronomy Picture of the Day: 2010 April 20

What would it be like to see a sky with many moons? Such is the sky above Saturn.

Okay, I found something rather interesting:
Astronomy Picture of the Day: 2010 April 22

Combining 8 images spanning April 4 through April 15, this composite tracks their progress through skies above Portsmouth, UK.

Even though they do manipulate their images, they are not doing it to deceive anyone in general. It is only being done to give people a sense of what is actually out there. Similar to a montage.

Some of the images are an examination of a 'what if' scenario. NASA also includes a clear description below each image, so people can understand what they are viewing.

Another example:
Astronomy Picture of the Day: 2010 April 23

Don't panic, the Sun has not gone wild. But this wild-looking portrait of the nearest star to planet Earth was made on March 30th by the recently launched Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO). Shown in false-color...

See. It is just NASA's way of sharing with people things they cannot directly experience.

Only those who do not read are being manipulated by a bunch of anti-NASA hobbyists.

reply to post by Krusty the Klown


I think it works as follows, but I'm no photographer either, They have three cameras, Red, Green and Blue, so they have to take three separate pictures and then combine them to get a true colour version. A bit like shining a white light into a prism, on the other side the light is refracted and you see a spectrum. This is doing things in reverse. My understanding though is that the moon had shifted between each picture so in order to line them up properly the editor cut the first two moons out and positioned them directly on top of each other, This of course left a ruddy big gash in the final product so was covered over with black.
My question is this;

Why has NASA employed a complete novice to do this kind of work for them???

I'm by no means a photoshop "expert" but know enough to have done a much better job of covering my tracks than that. It looks like a 5 minute rush job to me.

Originally posted by WorstCaseScenario
reply to post by Krusty the Klown

 

I think it works as follows, but I'm no photographer either, They have three cameras, Red, Green and Blue, so they have to take three separate pictures and then combine them to get a true colour version. A bit like shining a white light into a prism, on the other side the light is refracted and you see a spectrum. This is doing things in reverse. My understanding though is that the moon had shifted between each picture so in order to line them up properly the editor cut the first two moons out and positioned them directly on top of each other, This of course left a ruddy big gash in the final product so was covered over with black.

Close. The photo was taken with one camera and multiple filters.

My question is this;

Why has NASA employed a complete novice to do this kind of work for them???

I'm by no means a photoshop "expert" but know enough to have done a much better job of covering my tracks than that. It looks like a 5 minute rush job to me.

Short answer: NASA didn't employ the creator.

It was done by Emily Lakdawalla from Planetary Society and posted on her blog.

From there, it ended in NASAs astronomy picture of the day, which shows a cool space-related picture every day. Some of the pictures there are official NASA stuff, some of them amateur-made composites of NASA stuff (the one this topic is about falls in to this category), some of them are pictures by amateur astronomers and some by other space agencies (like ESA, JAXA...).

If you want to know what the creator of this composite thinks of this whole thing herself, here's a blog post from her (titled "I'm part of the conspiracy, apparently"):
www.planetary.org...

[...]
Here's the image I made, which was a relatively quick and dirty color composite of three views of Titan and Dione captured by Cassini through red, green, and blue filters. If you download this image and open it in a paint program and increase the contrast, you'll see the brush strokes on the night side of Dione where I painted out some misalignment in the three component images that resulted from Dione's apparent motion across Titan in the time that separated the three frames. Which is apparently a NASA conspiracy.
[...]

Hi I just wanted to drop my two pennies in on this.

Firstly it's the media, I can pretty much guarantee you that nearly every image that is released to the press will have been edited in some way. Colours, contrasts, touch ups, blends, noise reduction, cloning etc etc, it's standard practise for any images you want to give to the press to get a story or impact. The originals are usually available through nasa archives anyway.

So the fact that people seem so shocked by this still truly astounds me, much in the same way that every image in newspapers and magazines is edited to hell, why would Nasa be any different? Secondly I have to agree it's a terrible job, looks like it took all of 3 minutes, but this is my next point (I'm guessing she must be a freelancer who doesn't really give a sh*t, had a tight deadline or a crappy colour calibration on her monitor).

If there truly was something interesting to hide in an image, they would take a serious effort at editing it, not a 3 minute hack job with a an opaque solid brush in PS! Or much more likely they just wouldn't release it all, why go to the risk of people scrutinising a genuinely edited photo with something they don't want you to see? You would just not release it if you had any common sense.

Anyway, that's enough ranting from me, but I've read SO MANY threads on here about people raving that they've seen something that shows images from Nasa are edited. It's digital media people, WAKE UP! EVERY image will have been edited in some way, not to mention the fact that the images are often composites done by automated algorithms and software (which always creates random errors and seam problems), and that's before they're edited by people, so in fact they're probably edited multiple times.

Can we all move along now and stop these threads that just flood the place with nonsense? As much as it sounds a cliche... there really IS nothing to see here

If they really had something to hide then why the # would they publicise a shopped image which had the hidden object in it?

reply to post by DGFenrir


Problem I have is why not just say so? It's not like they don't know people are out there scrutinizing NASA photo's. Why put something on their server that is altered but don't tell anyone it was altered.

I smell a rat actually. They do this to deflect. If they can establish photo's are being altered because of camera angles then no one can question further pictures.

Just tell us up front the photo's have been altered. Wouldn't that alleviate all the nonsense and speculation?

imo there is nothing fishy about this image whatsoever, it's purely cosmetic. it's a composite which means the following;

composite–noun picture, photograph, or the like, that combines several separate pictures.
composite-adjective made up of disparate or separate parts or elements; compound: a composite drawing;

I did a composite photo the other day to show the detail of clouds in the sky and the landscape below (both photographed with different exposures and airbrushed out some birds from the sky) - no UFO's, no hidden messages just cosmetic.

Nasa have a well established history at photoshopping images for aesthetic purposes and why not, missions need good PR and photo's sell value to the mainstream so they have to look good.

This composite is nothing more than a photoshopped image of two (probably different exposure images) for the popular APOD website.

No point even worrying about photo manipulation (leaked or otherwise) because no-one publishes original's anymore - the digital age did away with that.

reply to post by Come Clean

Telling whether the image is shopped or not does not make a difference because conspiratards don't know how to read.
The source of this image does say that this photo is color composite by Emily Lakdawalla.

I used GIMP to attempt to create the composite image. I'm bad at aligning the moons lol.

Unaligned Dione
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/4c91215755a3.jpg[/atsimg]

Aligned Dione
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/e0d8fdfec532.jpg[/atsimg]

You people are stupid, they alter thier picture much like you would alter a picture of yourself to remove your redeye from the camra flash.

Just because they touch up a picture to look nice doesnt mean there are aliens , just sitting there thinking "hey i hope we get on the cover of a newspaper" if aliens were there, you think thier ship would be visible by us? they would just linger there as if our solar system was the greatest place to be?

Seriously grow up, you just HOPE aliens would be there, so you would think you had some sort of great future ahead of you, like aliens would come and say "hey you are the greatest person ever, come aboard, and one of us" that doesnt happen in REAL LIFE.

Maybe aliens came to our sol cluster once, for about 10 minutes and realized hey this place is inhabiated by morons, lets scram, why would they be interseted in a small glaxaxy living in the boondocks of galaxies, in a small solar sytem on a small planet where the people there have small brains, what could they possbily want? NOTHING

ABSOULTLY NOTHING, Cease your incessant magical thinking, before you start thinking that YOU are an alien, (although we are aliens to someone else) none would ever come to vist, because we are too primitive, and if you think i am a disinfo agent, get help some serious phycological help. Because i am just a canadian who is just 20 years old, and even i have a better mentality then most of you, and that is just SAD.

I am open to the idea of aliens, but nasa covering it up with the help of the goverment? thats just seriously flawed thinking

EDIT: i have noticed since the resent news of nasa finding a new planet and US assigning an earth ambasstor, alot of people have been talking about aliens, because it is thier hopful thinking nothing more. Clue in that you and i are probally the dumbest species in existence.

reply to post by MacAnkka
you know we can sit here and speculate all day, the thing is that "we the taxpayers" should be able to see the photos raw untouched right after they have been taken its what we pay for,and then if they want to pretty them up then do it.the thing is nobody knows what is being hidden but a handful of people and their not talking...

reply to post by TWILITE22

No.
We don't pay for photos. We pay for the scientific exploration of space. Science has little to do with pretty pictures.

But, if you like, you can get the raw photos, straight from the spacecraft, here:
pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov...

Originally posted by TWILITE22
reply to post by MacAnkka

 

you know we can sit here and speculate all day, the thing is that "we the taxpayers" should be able to see the photos raw untouched right after they have been taken its what we pay for,and then if they want to pretty them up then do it.the thing is nobody knows what is being hidden but a handful of people and their not talking...

You can. Right here: saturn.jpl.nasa.gov...

reply to post by Phage

Thank you for setting me straight...