'I feel like no-one': Girl, 12, dies in father's arms from mystery condition after being tormente

reply to post by sliceNodice


Does it matter so much. People are just thinking of their own children or experiences and relating their feelings. In the end, if she had an unknown issue and the bullying caused it to kill her, the bullying is still a cause.

If you read the article, they won't know the whole story for a couple of months.

This is so very sad. My daughter was also the victim of bullies in her school. She was assaulted in school by football players. I found out and went to the school and yes I was breathing fire. I explained that if they didn't stop it and right now I would. I told them flat out that should another of those brats touch my daughter I would make darn sure he went to juvie. I also told them that my daughter had my permission to fight back. She did; and as I told her she fought "dirty" and once she got the kid (another football player) down she marked him.

One of the boys parents stopped me in the hallway and asked how dare I call her kid what I called him which I can't repeat here. I told her it certainly wasn't my fault she raised such a tool yeah we'll say tool.

Words hurt and the old saying "Sticks and stones..." just isn't true. Words can push a child into actions that they wouldn't normally take. Parents need to be active in their kids lives and if we need to go to the school and raise a little hate and discontent; well that is our job. However, I can also say from experience you don't always know how serious it can be. It's also not a bad thing to speak to the other kids parents because they may not be aware of their kids actions; however, once they are made aware as parents they are responsible as is the school of the kids actions.

I am a red head, I also came from a family of criminals and child abusers, so I got it from not only my family, but also from school.
I was constantly badgered, made ridicule of and beaten on numerous occasions. I remember that there was even a time I was hiding in a tree to get away from the bullies, but they just resorted to throwing rocks at me. I also recall getting so excited about getting a Christmas card off someone, but upon reading it years later, I realised it was not a nice one (they used to call me Aids, and that was what was written on the card). I suffered continually all through my school life, and I would constantly ask to be shipped away somewhere else, or sent to a boarding school, anything just to get away. But back then it was not looked at as an issue. And I struggled constantly with trying to want to live, trying to feel that there was something worth while out there. But - With all this in mind, I was one of the lucky ones and it made me a stronger person - in many aspects of my life - I finally got away from it all at 17 and have not looked back since.
But there are many many kids out there that, as you can see from this article, can not cope with this. And why should they too. It wears you down, and it can and will kill if not part of you all of you - its taking away your power as a human being it strips you of all that you feel and want. It makes you need for the love that you really year for and deserve.
I feel for kids today that have to suffer though this, and I just wish that I could be there for them as well, offer a guiding and supporting hand - anything to help them - CUDDLE THEM SO MUCH that nothing can get through. Kids today are really really cruel - and this needs to be stopped. If you cant control the kids, get to the parents and if the parents are disagreeable - then kick them out of the school - get rid of them and theirs!
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reply to post by sliceNodice


Um read the thread. A number of posters think that her death was a direct result of a condition exacerbated by the bullying and subsequent stress.

reply to post by Yissachar1


I resent all these tree hugger remarks. See I am a pagan,a naturalist, I am all for the conservation of our natural resources. But I also beleive in the conservation of our society as a whole. Did I whoop my kids butt if they hit someone You're damn tootin I did. My family calls me a tree hugger, but I am, however all this mamby pamby giving what the little brats want all the time and stupid time outs when they misbehave (As if that would even phase them) I would never ever ever agree with. Oh yeah I had the state on my back and acted accordingly till they left then beat their butts good if they had acted out while the state was in the home. If those bullies were my kids well let's just say they would have to be kept home until the bruises went away. I don't think anyone should generalize any group, the amish would be considered tree huggers, they don't use any thing that takes away natural resources, but they definately have a very strict corporal punishment policy. You better beleive they do, and they are protected under the law. So this is what I ask of you, if it's ok for them to do this under the "relious beleifs" and they are protected by the government from having these awipes state social workers invading their homes, How TF is it alright to be able to do it to anyone else??? Is the Amish considered in Lancaster for instance are they considered not part of this country?

Originally posted by Shystargazer
Face it....we lost our children when they took the law away from the parents and the teachers and gave it to the children. We can't punish a child without facing a law suit. Kids today are spoiled and feel a sense of entitlement. Video games teach them to kill without conscience. Music teaches them disrespect for others. We don't need the government telling us how to raise our children.

You have nailed it, my friend. The kids have the power now, not parents or teachers. Did noone in power read Lord of the Flies? We really need to go back to Victorian ideals where bringing up kids is concerned. There is a world of difference between lawful chastisement (and a smack or the cane when needed should fall into this category) and abuse. The bloody liberals who got these daft laws passed have doomed our society. In NZ parents arent even allowed to smack their naughty kids!!! WTF? Kids have spotted our weakness and they exploit the heck out of it.

I really wish there was something that could be done to stop things like this. Her death is the first story of this type that I've heard however I'm no stranger to bullying. I never was the bully, trust me, I know how bad it can be and no...nobody understands what it's like unless you make your way through elementry school and high school waking up every day wondering what was going to be the story of me today? Yeah it sucks...bad. She's almost lucky - there were days I wanted to die but didn't. Parents and other adults (my biggest shock was that it's the teachers too!!) Shrug it off as "oh it happens to everyone" or "don't let them bug you"...well, s**t like this can happen. Sorry, its just stupid that things like this get looked over until someone actually dies from it.


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reply to post by kerazeesicko


Jesus I hope you have been snipped. You say that bullies are losers, and go on to bully a dead child. Enjoy your ban. I have know doubt you are not mentally equipped to circumvent it.

reply to post by Yissachar1


This is the reason I teach my daughter to "handle" things. Be predator, not prey.

She also understands that she isnt to "start stuff" and help those who are unable to defend themselves.

Some kids like this little girl just dont have it in them to fight back. Thats why AS A SOCIETY we have to teach our kids to stand up for themselves and (if necessary) others.

Will there be repercussions? Possibly. Too many candy ass "educators" in control. Mindless idiots.

The bullies that did this need to feel the bite of the "Wolves" to their "coyotes"!

heads would roll. period.

Much love to the poor parents. I cant imagine.

reply to post by felonius


A society should be judged by how they treat the weakest member. Apparently, ours is sadly lacking.

reply to post by ldyserenity


Being Pagan doesnt mean you cant parent well. I know several and they have good kids. The kids had their ass's busted when needed.

Most Pagans I know raise kids the old fashion way and the kids are better for it. After they turn about 7 you really dont need to dust their butts anymore. The threat is good enough LOL!

They WILL test you sometimes!

Originally posted by abrowning
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A society should be judged by how they treat the weakest member. Apparently, ours is sadly lacking.

Agreed.

I put it to what I call "Abdication of Parental Responsibility". The adults squeeze out a few babies, get them to school age and more or less forget them or "want to be their BFF".

Children are animals. Some more than others. We (as parents) are here to keep them healthy, help them to wisdom and compassion, and KEEP THEM IN CHECK!

reply to post by ldyserenity

My version of a tree hugger are those that do not belive on spanking and make excuses for violence and other crimes,

A turn of phrase
Was nothing against your relgion

Im glad we have the same thoughts despite that

I know all to well what a broken heart can do to someone, especially a child. Parents need to keep a closer eye at what's going on in our schools today. I'm not talking about controlling, as kids have to be allowed to be kids. But I just feel like the school systems are doing one of two things.

1.) Over reacting creating a police like school

or

2.) Simply doing nothing.

Obviously in this case the students who bullied this child needed to be kept an eye on. How many teachers saw the child cry and do nothing?

Disgusting, my heart goes out to the father. No apologies can ease this mans pain.

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Its important to teach you children to be respectful and open minded but also to empower your children with the knowledge that they dont need those people to like them to be a likeable person or to be beautiful or to be amazing. I love you all and the future will be beautiful if we manifest with loving intent

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reply to post by silo13


She is beautifull..Who could break HER heart?

Why would you?

This is far from over..

I'm currently shocked at how her parents would choose a Hannah Montana coffin.

I had no idea that such a thing existed.