Baba Vanga: World War 3 - less then 1 month to go

I honestly hope for some serious # to happen.
I cant take living in this crud any longer...
I really cant.

reply to post by TiM3LoRd


That is a little convoluted and certainly not the right conclusion. If one presupposes that Vanga's sources are demonic, and based on the occultic basis of her readings I have every reason to believe so, then one might attempt to analyze what such dark forces are attempting to accomplish here.

Typically the forces of darkness provide their seers with two sources of prophetic power. The first is based on the nature of spirits once serving God, who exist to some limited extent, outside space and time. ie these beings are inter-dimensional. That gives them at least a partial glimpse into several highly probable near futures.

The second way they provide deceiving prophecies is by fulfilling them by their own will. I think they particularly enjoy fulfilling prophecies of destruction, having an innate hatred for God's creation, especially that which is created in His image, mankind.

Since her track record is pretty good, or so some claim, then her demons are fairly powerful. If they state that we will have WW3 by November, then it stands to reason they are working towards that end. They of course predict victory for the Muslims, since the Muslims offer a nice way to implement world satanic government under their spiritual leader the Mahdi. There is another excellent thread here about how the Imam Mahdi prophecies dovetail almost perfectly with the prophecies of the antichrist in the Bible. There is a good reason for that, and it illustrates how demonic prophecies work quite nicely. They first deceive to destroy the soul, and they then deceive to destroy the physical body, especially of christians and jews.

Thus it makes perfect sense to pray that these demonic entities do not fulfill their lust for destruction at this time. The end will come according to God's timing, not before and not after.

Problem I have with any "prediction" that has any date attached to it, makes the final results improbable due to the simple "Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle" when applied through quantum physic applications..

First nothing is 100%, and when you look at any object, date, or event, it always changes the outcome inversely proportionate the "quantity" of people making the observation..

In other words, the more people that look at the date, the less likely it will even come close to happening..

Same thing in this case.. it just ain't gonna happen....

wo0ooo0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o seeing into the future and having psychic powers is the work of the devil.

Man, seriously, shut up. It's your God that would hinder the knowledge and progression of man, yet you so blindly follow and trust in Him.

reply to post by Whine Flu


That's a typical response to the presentation of truth. Jesus said, "By their fruits you will know them." Look into the fruits of the occult and you will plainly see it's source.

Instead it is political correct, and certainly fostered in the government controlled education camps, that any spiritual source (except of christianity) is goooood, and we should embrace it uncritically. This is the type of thinking that had Adam Gadahn immersed in Islamic theology in an American public school. He is now one of the most wanted terrorists.

Try to break out of your cultural brainwashing. This is not the Jedi knights or our enlightened alien space brothers, or magical smurfs making you feel good. This is stone cold demonic doctrines, designed to destroy your soul. There is no legitimate psychic power that is not from the devil. All such power originates from either the Holy Spirit of God or from the devil. Any spirit that denies that Jesus is from God is antichrist. From the Bible 1 John 4:1,

1Dear friends, do not believe everyone who claims to speak by the Spirit. You must test them to see if the spirit they have comes from God. For there are many false prophets in the world. 2This is how we know if they have the Spirit of God: If a person claiming to be a propheta acknowledges that Jesus Christ came in a real body, that person has the Spirit of God. 3But if someone claims to be a prophet and does not acknowledge the truth about Jesus, that person is not from God. Such a person has the spirit of the Antichrist, which you heard is coming into the world and indeed is already here.

Compare that teaching with what your idiotic Marxist English teacher told you

reply to post by SevenThunders


To be brutally honest, I couldn't have cared less about what any of what my teachers have taught me, for they haven't taught me anything over the years. Not only did I not trust what they have to say, it is also how they presented the information. Anyway, that's an entirely different subject.

I'm not an atheist or a Christian hater. I'm open to anything spiritual, really. A lot of it sounds like bunk, but nothing is true, right? This means that we have the ability to omit boundaries in any area of spirituality. I have to ask, though, why would you believe that Christianity is the right way? Why is it that your God is absolute? Why is He the only path to a better place? Maybe it's you who are indoctrinated. Has it every crossed your mind before? What allowed you to trust His word? After all, His word is interpreted by man, who we all know is fallible. If you have questioned the motives of God before, what made you believe that you made the right choice to follow His words?

It's probably faith. We all have it and it motivates us to some degree. Just because you disagree with what some others have faith in doesn't mean that their faith is wrong. In fact, it's rather hypocritical to call their beliefs the work of the devil or wrong when you can't even confirm the existence of your God. Faith is exactly what motivates you, too.

I am not indoctrinated. I don't even choose to believe. Simply, I choose to be.

thread616666?! anyone else notice this? coincidence? I think NOT :p

Anyway, facinating thread, since i'm a Soldier I would hate to think of fighting in the next world war...

My wife just gave birth to my first little one! I want to be there to make sure he grows up to be a respectible man.

Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
thread616666?! anyone else notice this? coincidence? I think NOT :p

Anyway, facinating thread, since i'm a Soldier I would hate to think of fighting in the next world war...

My wife just gave birth to my first little one! I want to be there to make sure he grows up to be a respectible man.

Woaahh! lol ... Did you know 616 is said to be the real # of the beast? No joke, read this:

"A newly discovered fragment of the oldest surviving copy of the New Testament indicates that, as far as the Antichrist goes, theologians, scholars, heavy metal groups, and television evangelists have got the wrong number. Instead of 666, it's actually the far less ominous 616.
The new fragment from the Book of Revelation, written in ancient Greek and dating from the late third century, is part of a hoard of previously unintelligible manuscripts discovered in historic dumps outside Oxyrhynchus in Egypt. Now a team of expert classicists, using new photographic techniques, are finally deciphering the original writing.
"
source: www.escapeallthesethings.com...

edit: I just realized the # in the url backwards, is this thread # This is quite possibly the most evil thread on ATS. Congratulations OP

Originally posted by AdAstra

Originally posted by fordrew
anyone else think this lady is a little bit more than just coo coo in the head?

Anyone can make some of these predictions because they are so extremely obvious.

No war will happen in November 2010 .

Crazy russian lady. It was a good fun read though I guess.

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I often wonder do contributing members actually read the messages comprising the thread they appear to be interested in (other than their own, that is).
In this case, especially after that lengthy post by a member from Bulgaria, the answer is clearly NO.

You haven't paid enough attention to pick up even the fact that she is Bulgarian, not Russian - and yet you freely comment on her and her abilities?

BTW, how is the Kursk prediction "extremely obvious"?
Russia is enormous, and before the accident Kursk - the town - was light years away from being a household name anywhere, including Russia itself. I am surprised that she even knew about its existence.

For the record, I usually stay well away from "prophecies" of any kind, but this woman (I've beeen hearing about her for years now) is interesting.

Kursk is very famous city in Eastern Europe - former socialistic countries. There was the biggest ever tank battle in the world - WWII wit milions of soldiers participating. Also there is Kursk magnetic anomaly near to this city.

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reply to post by SevenThunders


Thanks for reminding me why I left Literalism behind.

Bless you brother.

Rev

Originally posted by colloredbrothers
"And in Russia will be born many new people who are able to change the world."

Wow, I'm subscribed to RussiaToday (the Youtubechannel) and recently many changes have been taken place in Russia, mainly because of Medvedev, he has a very good stance on foreignrelations and also has done an amazing amount of things to better the country. Recently Medvedev himself has fired the mayor of Moskow, this person was mayor for 20 years and Medvedev fired him "because he couldn't trust him" anymore.

Medvedev always talked honest in interviews and sometimes appears in his own vlog. I have been getting good feelings from Russia and this little sentence sent chills down my spine.

I have never seen a president take so much initiatif, not in my country not in America. Most presidents don't get anything done, while Medvedev gets huge things done in a very fast pace compared to our politicians.

I have great hopes for russia.

Are you kidding me? The only thing Russia Today does is bad mouth the US. In English no less. Don't you think that's a little strange? Don't you think that Russia silencing its opponents and killing different political opponents and whatnot left and right is A LITTLE ODD? HMMM!? JUST A WEE BIT!? What about Russia building nuclear reactors for Iran, and arming the North Koreans??! hmmm? If you didn't find any of these odd, then I assure you, you are brainwashed.

Originally posted by concernedcitizen519

Originally posted by -W1LL
has anyone tried to timeline. Baba vanga' prophecies to see how they line up with Nostradamus or Edgar Casey it would be interesting to see how similar or different they are.

Grea post I have not heard of Baba Vanga before now.

It seems to match up with the Timewave Zero date in 2010 when things go horrible, but who knows. I never really had a lot of "faith" in this person, she has some pretty ridiculous prophecies, lol.

Timewave doesn't say in Nov things will go horrible as you put it... the graph does dip into high novelty... but that could mean anything...

Korg.

Originally posted by TasteTheTruth
I honestly hope for some serious # to happen.
I cant take living in this crud any longer...
I really cant.

Move away from the bong as that is not going to help your problems. Wishing for world war three is more than a bit extreme and believe me if it happened you would be wishing for anything but war. Anybody who wishes for world war three is either suicidal demented or just plain mad. I can only imagine that you have no family or friends to worry about which is sad. I hope you can sort yourself out and become more positive with life. World war three is not the answer to your problems. All the best Tarifa

Originally posted by tarifa37

Originally posted by TasteTheTruth
I honestly hope for some serious # to happen.
I cant take living in this crud any longer...
I really cant.

Move away from the bong as that is not going to help your problems. Wishing for world war three is more than a bit extreme and believe me if it happened you would be wishing for anything but war. Anybody who wishes for world war three is either suicidal demented or just plain mad. I can only imagine that you have no family or friends to worry about which is sad. I hope you can sort yourself out and become more positive with life. World war three is not the answer to your problems. All the best Tarifa

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check, and check, and check... In other words, I will have my popcorn out when WWIII starts. I know you're not talking to me, but I wanted to tell you... Being insane has its advantages, you don't have to be ignorant, yet you can still be blissful at the same time.

I go with AdAstral,

There are certain people who dont really read the thread.
If they read, they sure know what they mention is mentioned already or wrong. Its quick and easy to debunk something, especially if you dont even read what other telling.

I laugh at prophecies but this one did lure me before I even search this on ATS, I even want to start a thread about this. Here are some things that I see:

At 85 year old, a blind women who cannot read should not even bother about these things, but she does it.
She credible enough that even the Bulgarian President attend her funeral.
She seems not the one who yell aloud about her prophecy, its the media asking her about it, she dont even like to tell prophecy.
She doesnt say its hers, she claim it was told to her, yeah weak subject, but why give anyone else the credit ?
At scientifically 80% success rate, 99% mass beleif rate and tested and retested shes kinda good at determining and solving people problems.
Her prophecy go up to meaningless level for us, 3000 years to the future doesnt mean much to us, but she still say it, why tarnish your reputation when you just can "predict" next McD burger and be right ?.
Acceptable chained time line, she doesnt jump events, the story presented are plausible especially with current events of USA, Iran, Israel, Russia, China, India.
She mention China as super power and it already showing at some levels. (USA, you owe China over a trillion, dig that). For someone who can tell her own death day and right about it, its pretty scary isnt it ? So I read in one of the Serb forum.
If Hitler himself come to her and left depressed, now that is kinda good advice or what ?
Predicted the number of events starting with the bombing of Belgrade 6th April 1941. An omen of death of Tsar Boris who had visited the year before his death. Princess Diana stuff. An earthquake in Skopje. The fate of Italian Prime Minister Aldo Moro. The exact date of death of her own husband.
It is believed that around one million people sought help from her, pretty good numbers eh ?
In fact scientist want to examine her brain and Russian scientist perform experiment on her, not disclose though.

Seems so much with this old hag and yet I just like you, dont know what will happen. For the mean time lets just wait and see, its merely few days more, if you want war, got to have patience first .

I just wonder about the water reservoir and how the radioactive rain will affect it.
(Hint: Skin disease predicted after the war, imagine bathing in radioactive water)

*yawn* yet again more fear mongering.

Yet another WW3 is imminent thread, and yet another thread that will disappear into obscurity, only to be brought back up in the future to show how often people predict this and never get it right.

And for the people who are wishing WW3 to happen - you disgust me. I dont think you fully understand the implications of a global war, the people who suffer the most are the innocent.

I have some conspiracy related somehow with Baba Vanga here:

"The Tsarichina phenomenon

It became famous in the early 1990s, when the Bulgarian military began digs in the centre of the village. The digs were initially in search of a purported hidden treasure of King Samuil. The project's aim changed because a woman received signals from aliens that the world's first "intelligent" creature was buried under Tsarichina.Even Baba Vanga confirmed that "down there is a creature... not a man, not a woman, "a yellow monkey"... why do you need it?". During the digging of the tunnel leading to the creature, aliens sent messages to the woman that they were coming to see the work that was being done. They also said that there were apparently highly-advanced Bulgarians living around the universe. In early 1991, many human-like creatures were discovered by a local farmer, however further sightings have not been confirmed. The local villagers commonly referred to this creature as a troll. In addition, at least one UFO was encountered and mass witnessed by army personnel and villagers during the course of the digs.
It was discovered that Bulgarian army had spent as much as about 16 million levs (appx 10 Mln dollars) on the Slava (translated from Bulgarian: glory) project over 2 years, but the tunnel was finally sealed up due to a number of reasons. There was a danger of a flood, as according to geologists, there was an underground river in the place of where the aliens had said the creature was buried. Moreover the cost of the project did not yield results in the two years of its duration. This coupled with the circumstances of the project's commencement were seen as a military embarrassment. However, no convictions followed.
In late 1992 the Tsarichina project was canceled by the new military minister, and the Tsarichina hole was reluctantly filled up and sealed with concrete. The findings of a 2007 bTV documentary on the Tsarichina project, revealed that most of the military documents and recordings had vanished from the headquarters of the Bulgarian army."

en.wikipedia.org...

This is the most famous Black Ops project in Bulgaria.

I used to know two persons involved in this project: Colonel Delcho Naplatanov and his daughter Marina Naplatanova who was translator there. They both commited suicide throwing themselves from high buildings soon after the project end.
There are strong rumours that all documentation was sent abroad to western military services.

Originally posted by colloredbrothers
written:

2010 – World War III. War will begin in November 2010 and end in October 2014. Will begin as usual, then nuclear will be used initially, and then chemical weapons.
2011 – As a result of the fallout of nuclear fallout in the northern hemisphere will not be any animals or vegetation. Then Muslims will wage war against chemical surviving Europeans.
2014 – Most people will suffer skin cancer and other skin diseases (a consequence of chemical warfare).
2016 – Europe almost lonely (empty).
2018 – New China becomes a world power. Developing countries in turn operated from exploiters.
2023 – A little bit of change in the Earth’s orbit.
2025 – Europe still little settled.
2028 – Creating a new energy source (probably a controlled thermonuclear reaction). Hunger is gradually being overcome. Launched a manned spacecraft to Venus.
2033 – The polar ice are melting. Greater levels of the oceans.
2043 – The world economy is thriving. In Europe, Muslims rule.
2046 – any bodies (organs) can be manufactured (cloning?). Replacing the bodies is becoming one of the best methods of treatment.
2066 – During the attack on the Muslim Rome, the United States used a new kind of weapon – the climate. The sharp cooling (instant freezing).
2076 – Classless Society (communism).
2084 – The restoration of nature.
2088 – A new disease – aging for a few seconds!
2097 – The rapid aging defeated.
2100 – Artificial sun illuminates the dark side of the Earth.
2111 – People become living robots.
2123 – The war between small nations. Big nations do not intervene.
2125 – Hungary will receive signals from space.
2130 – Colony under water (with the help of sympathetic councils).
2164 – Animals turn half-human.
2167 – A new religion.
2170 – Major drought.
2183 – A colony on Mars becomes a nuclear power, and demands independence from the Earth (like when – the United States from England).
2187 – Will stop 2 large eruption of volcanoes.
2195 – Sea Colony fully developed, abundant energy and food.
2196 – Complete mixing of Asians and Europeans.
2201 – At the Sun slowing thermonuclear processes. Temperature drops.
2221 – In the search for extraterrestrial life, humanity comes into contact with what – something terrible.
2256 – Spacecraft forgotten to Earth terrible new disease.
2262 – Planets gradually changing planetary orbit. Mars is threatened by comets.
2271 – Restart physical constants are changed. (Laws of physics changed?)
2273 – Mixing yellow, white and black races. New race.
2279 – Power from nothing (probably from a vacuum or a black hole).
2288 – Travel back in time (Time Travel invented?). New contacts with aliens.
2291 – The sun cools. Attempts were being made to light it again.
2296 – Powerful eruption on the Sun. Changing the force of gravity. Beginning to fall old space stations and satellites.
2299 – In France, guerrilla movement against Islam.
2302 – New important laws and secrets of the universe revealed.
2304 – Secrets of the Moon revealed.
2341 – Something terrible is approaching Earth from space.
2354 – An accident in one of the artificial Sun leads to drought.
2371 – The great famine.
2378 – A new fast-growing race.
2480 – 2 artificial Suns collide. Land in the twilight.
3005 -The war on Mars. Violated the trajectory of the planet.
3010 – Comet hits Moon. Around the Earth – ring/zone of the stones and dust.
3797 – By this time on Earth killed all life, but mankind will be able to lay the foundations for a new life in another stellar system.
3803 – A new planet is populated by little. Fewer contacts between people. Climate new planet affects the organisms of people – they mutate.
3805 – The war between humans for resources. More than half of people dying out.
3815 – The war is over.
3854 – The development of civilization virtually stops. People live flocks as beasts.
3871 – New prophet tells people about moral values, religion.
3874 – New prophet receives support from all segments of the population. Organized a new church.
3878 – along with the Church to re-train new people forgotten sciences.
4302 – New cities are growing in the world. New Church encourages the development of new technology and science.
4302 – The development of science. Scientists discovered in the overall impact of all diseases in organism behavior.
4304 – Found a way to win any disease.
4308 – Due to mutation people at last beginning to use their brains more than 34%. Completely lost the notion of evil and hatred.
4509 – Getting to Know God. The man has finally been reached such a level of development that can communicate with God.
4599 – People achieve immortality.
4674 – The development of civilization has reached its peak. The number of people living on different planets is about 340 billion. Assimilation begins with aliens.
5076 – A boundary universe. With it, no one knows.
5078 – The decision to leave the boundaries of the universe. While about 40 percent of the population is against it.
5079 – End of the World.


"Vanga was recorded 823 messages. Of these, 445 true, 288 alternative (ambiguous) and 90 incorrect ones. From these data, calculate the synthesis rate of telepathic communication – the CTC, ie, mind reading visitors Vanga. On average it is equal to 0,7.

0,7 – is a very big factor, proving that Vanga could not find out any information by conventional methods."

Does anyone have a list of the things she has predicted that have come true? I did not see this list mentioned?

V6

Originally posted by EnactedEgoTrip
*yawn* yet again more fear mongering.

Yet another WW3 is imminent thread, and yet another thread that will disappear into obscurity, only to be brought back up in the future to show how often people predict this and never get it right.

And for the people who are wishing WW3 to happen - you disgust me. I dont think you fully understand the implications of a global war, the people who suffer the most are the innocent.

Oh I understand, immense fear, children dying, friends dying, people forming rebel factions and killing each other over a slice of bread... Hell on earth. Sure WWIII is no fun in that aspect (that is, if you stick around for all that). I will be somewhere way up north when this happens so I don't really care, and I don't have any true friends anyways. Think of all the assholes in the world that will get what was coming to them. Ah, I love karma... All I really have to worry about is radiation poisoning... But there are measures to semi-protect from that.

"5078 – The decision to leave the boundaries of the universe. While about 40 percent of the population is against it"

This one is interesting. Michio Kaku talked about the same theory in the 3 hour interview, that we are living in a bubble universe and one day we will be able to go out.