Indianapolis Bakery Refuses To Bake Gay Cupcakes

reply to post by Annee


Why is acceptance required? Does anyone else live their life? Acceptance from some will never come and only creates conflict that needs not be when one tries to force it. There is a fine line between fighting for your rights and forcing your views down someone else's throat.

Simple fact is. It's no one's buisness til it is made their buisness and shoving it in their face is making it their buisness.

reply to post by Watcher-In-The-Shadows


No one is forcing them to do anything they do not want to do.

They were not forced to sign the lease with the gay friendly city, which has a sexual orientation non discrinination ordinance.

They refused to bake gay cupcakes, again no one forced them to do it.

They are not immune from consequences, social and legal for their choices.

reply to post by Annee


Both scenarios are sales. One is the sale of a pre-baked item, and the other is the sale of items yet to be baked. I simply dont see the big distinction you are making.

So you are saying that if the Gay organization bought pre-baked off the shelf cupcakes they should not be refused, but because they wanted to order them, its ok to refuse them.

The cupcakes were not obscenely shaped or frosted. They were rainbow colored, totally innocuous, and even if the proprietors daughters were assisting with the order, there is nothing about the cupcakes that would expose the girls to anything sexual at all. And nothing that would clue them into the sexuality of the persons who ordered or would consume the cupcakes.

The lawyer for the bakery is arguing they didnt have the necessary things to make the cupcakes, and that is the basis for their refusal, but since they have batter and food coloring, it is unlikely to fly. Especially since Dad went and flapped his gums about his family values and all that.

quote]Originally posted by harrytuttle

Originally posted by VAPatriot

"We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone"

This was a common and accepted statement. What happened?

Yeah, you are correct. WHAT DID EVER HAPPEN to our right to be racist bigoted business owners? I remember hearing it was some nonsense about making this world a better place or something along those insane lines.

Better for whom, exactly? The politically correct police are out in force. If you don't like your brother-in-law. Should you be forced to have him come to dinner at your home? If you refuse, it would be OK with you to have the state force you to have him over?


Only crazy anti-American people want to make this world a better place. Us patriots like keeping the world of hate alive.

Really, So if you don't kowtow to everyone you are a hater?
Actually, patriot's like keeping freedom alive? The freedom to choose how we care to do business with and what we sell.


You know, I have the right to ask your wife out on a date even though she's married to you. But does that mean it's the "right" thing to do?

Being that I am a woman, If you we to ask my husband out on a date, I would not make you any gay cupcakes. You do have the right but, you do also need to consider the consequences you doing so.


I say, let them eat cupcakes, one and all!

Just like Marie Antoinette, this demonstrates the obliviousness and selfishness of you thought process.

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by Annee

 

Both scenarios are sales. One is the sale of a pre-baked item, and the other is the sale of items yet to be baked. I simply don't see the big distinction you are making.

I explained it as simply as possible.

I can't really help you understand the difference.

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Yes. A good ole fashion lynching is always a fun time.

Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
reply to post by Annee

 

Why is acceptance required? Does anyone else live their life? Acceptance from some will never come and only creates conflict that needs not be when one tries to force it. There is a fine line between fighting for your rights and forcing your views down someone else's throat.

Personal beliefs have nothing to do with Equality for every person.

No one has to Accept anything - - - to understand that every person - is to be treated equal.

reply to post by Annee


Your words. Not mine.

The more you are discriminated against - - even for something so ridiculous - - the more entrenched you become to fight for equality and acceptance.

I think both sides needs to leave each other the frick alone. They have a right not to be forced to accept something they don't want to. Especially in light of the fact such silly antics as this shop did will only hurt the buisness in the long run. And, yes, gay people have a right to be gay. But not trumpet it off the freaking rooftops and expect everyone to fall over themselves accepting them. It's unrealistic at best.

And the simple fact of the matter it's no one's buisness til it's made their buisness. And some people LOVE to make it the other person's buisness.

Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
reply to post by Annee

 

Your words. Not mine.

The more you are discriminated against - - even for something so ridiculous - - the more entrenched you become to fight for equality and acceptance.

So? Just because you want acceptance doesn't mean you are gonna get it. Of course people want to be accepted for who they are.

Why are you ignoring the Equality part? Because that was my answer?

reply to post by Annee


I am supposed to know where you placed the emphesis minus any clues ma'am?

Don't get me wrong. I think both sides needs to leave each other the frick alone. They have a right not to be forced to accept something they don't want to. Especially in light of the fact such silly antics as this shop did will only hurt the buisness in the long run. And, yes, gay people have a right to be gay. But not trumpet it off the freaking rooftops and expect everyone to fall over themselves accepting them. It's unrealistic at best.

And the simple fact of the matter it's no one's buisness til it's made their buisness. And some people LOVE to make it the other person's buisness.

Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
reply to post by hotbakedtater

 

Yes. A good ole fashion lynching is always a fun time.

I'm sorry, I am failing to understand what you mean by this. The topic is the refusal to make gay cupcakes, where does lynching some into play? You are replying to one of my posts, and I am not remotely discussing lynching.

Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
reply to post by Annee

 

I am supposed to know where you placed the emphesis minus any clues ma'am?

Don't get me wrong. I think both sides needs to leave each other the frick alone. They have a right not to be forced to accept something they don't want to. Especially in light of the fact such silly antics as this shop did will only hurt the buisness in the long run. And, yes, gay people have a right to be gay. But not trumpet it off the freaking rooftops and expect everyone to fall over themselves accepting them. It's unrealistic at best.

And the simple fact of the matter it's no one's buisness til it's made their buisness. And some people LOVE to make it the other person's buisness.

Maybe the order of placement - - - as in Equality was mentioned first.

You are really making a great effort to complicate the issue. Adding personal little innuendos such as
"trumpet it off the freaking rooftops". Maybe it should just be quietly swept under the rug so no one notices.

Most people want acceptance. No one realistically expects everyone to accept them.

But there is real expectation in Equality. Being treated as a human because you are one.

Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
They have a right not to be forced to accept something they don't want to

This is not a right at all.

I don't accept capitalism, therefore I do not have to participate; I will take my money from whomever I wish because I do not accept the law. I do not accept Black people so I will eradicate them from the country because I do accept segregation (Obviously this is sheer sarcasm for the sake of perspective). People are forced to accept things all the time.

Furthermore, making cupcakes for a Gay Pride event does not require acceptance, just tolerance, which the law requires. You don't like the law? You can leave, the door's wide open.

Boycotting, however, is actually a right. Thank God some of us know what rights actually are.

Edit:

It's their buisness. They can do what they like.

You obviously don't know a damn thing about the business world. Everything in business is controlled.

I think boycotting is the best way to show your feelings towards social injustices.

In this case we have people who want to claim they have the right to discriminate against gays, even though the city has an ordinance banning that and their lease does too.

I think these American enterpenuers just learned a valuable lesson in business 101.

Originally posted by hotbakedtater
I think boycotting is the best way to show your feelings towards social injustices.

In this case we have people who want to claim they have the right to discriminate against gays, even though the city has an ordinance banning that and their lease does too.

I think these American enterpenuers just learned a valuable lesson in business 101.

I listen to OutQ radio news with Michelangelo Signorile. Its the closest radio news I've found so far that's "Fair and Balanced" - - even if it is gay leaning.

The gay media is trying to keep this from being swept under the rug. As they should.

Way too often incidents like this are given a pass by major media as being insignificant.

And all this may seem trivial - - - it really isn't.

Typical.......10 pages of nonsense to further the gay agenda. This was a set up from the get go, and they mean to capitalize on it.............great free advertising for their event, worth far more than they'd have spent on cup cakes.

Originally posted by adifferentbreed
Typical.......10 pages of nonsense to further the gay agenda. This was a set up from the get go, and they mean to capitalize on it.............great free advertising for their event, worth far more than they'd have spent on cup cakes.

Well since it is th gay's agenda, why wouldn't they work to further it? That is the whole idea of an agenda.

What is this agenda, btw?

Originally posted by adifferentbreed
Typical.......10 pages of nonsense to further the gay agenda. This was a set up from the get go, and they mean to capitalize on it.............great free advertising for their event, worth far more than they'd have spent on cup cakes.

What is YOUR agenda? Hetero White Male? Just a guess - - you could be Native American Female for all I know.

But I doubt you are Native American Female. You don't seem to have any concept of discrimination.

Originally posted by adifferentbreed
Typical.......10 pages of nonsense to further the gay agenda. This was a set up from the get go, and they mean to capitalize on it.............great free advertising for their event, worth far more than they'd have spent on cup cakes.

Too bad their agenda is so important that others get hurt in the process. I thought the same thing at the beginning of this.
Why order cupcakes from a business that makes cookies only? Did others know the position these business owners stand on with gay's?
Why did this story get so out of hand? The MSM who played a part in spinning this without knowing more on the issue should be in question here.
I think the media and the way they work will become a big issue soon. People being falsely accused of things, it becoming viral, is creating suicide lately.
It's one thing NOT to censor, but it's another to destroy a person using the internet and media.
Where is the line drawn? Is there a line?
Why are we picking and choosing what to believe without first being skeptical? First asking questions before labeling people?
Maybe the business owners are bigot's, maybe not, who cares if they aren't trying to spread an agenda.
I agree with adifferentbreed, this was most likely a set up, furthering an agenda. If not, then the colleges are pumping out the dumbest people ever, lol.
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I am straight, and "gay friendly", but this business has the right to do whatever they want. Sure, it's a bit in "bad taste", especially in the 21st century, but keep in mind it is in a part of the country that isn't exactly the most progressive of places.

I see no problem with this, in the larger picture of things.