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Did the Gods of old really exist...new evidence suggest yes

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posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 08:21 PM
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I yanked (with permission) this excerpt from the Chronicle Project newsletter thought it bore discussion

According to the book of enoch, which you can find online, the giants, the offspring of the rebelious supreme ones, set aside cattle and other large animals, that they could experiment with by copulating with, to see what it would make (every one needs a hobby). So, if what we are translating is not just some random story, but might be an actual writing of the time period, what might we discover by looking at this section?
According to our texts, this kind of event took place before and after the flood.

www.thechronicleproject.org...
See book of Nakha

Now the DNA of the supreme ones does not appear species restricted, like ours is on Earth. So if they bred with woman from Earth, the offspring could then cross breed with anything, giving rise to what Enoch termed abominations. They in turn could cross breed, etc. until a vast majority of life would be contaminated.

Now think about ancient mythology. Centaurs, minotaurs, harpies and a whole host of other creatures. What if these legends were not legend, but actually happened, with some embelishment of course.
Zeus, poetically referred to by the vocative Zeu pater ("O, father Zeus"), is a continuation of *Diēus, the Proto-Indo-European god of the daytime sky, also called *Dyeus ph2tēr ("Sky Father"). The god is known under this name in Sanskrit as Dyaus/Dyaus Pita, deriving from the basic form *dyeu- ("to shine", and in its many derivatives, "sky, heaven, god")
Note the idea of this being having arrived from the sky, and also being a shining one.

Now when the jews went into the promised land, specific cities were to be razed, men, woman children and livestock. Why? Some say these were the cities of the giants, and were ordered destroyed to prevent the spread of the abominations as it happened before.
The spies who went into the promised land stated...they are giants and we are grasshoppers in their sight.
This begs the question, was the Earth destroyed by the tsunami / flood, to stop the complete contamination of the Earth's species?
If so, this answers many questions.

Now to throw one more rock into the pond, when the human genome project was completed a few years ago, they found that some human's DNA contained what they called a genetic super code among the regular DNA. They theorized that aliens might have used Earth as a genetic experiment area. Is this leftover from the time of the giants.

Now remember that Hebrew appears to have been the base language that others extended from in the East. With that in mind it would seem logical that the accounts in it, would be the closest to factual given the laws moses was given against any changes. Even copying required three people present.
We should then be able to trace forward through the other cultures with matching events, to open a clearer view of what these beings were doing on the Earth having set themselves up as gods. This oddly enough can be found in almost every culture.
Its an interesting consideration, and bears looking into.

What say ye?
edit on 17-10-2010 by Gemwolf because: Removed all caps from title



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 08:29 PM
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Interesting thoughts, I do remember it saying in the bible that the end times will be just like the time before the flood. So back in those days they had knowledge over DNA and were able to manipulate and use it, such as what we are doing nowadays. I don't really have much to add, the thread just kind of reminded me of this point.



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 08:37 PM
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Oh that topic you don't even want to touch.
The end times will actually see the angels from the time of Noah released to do the same thing to the Earth that they did in the time of Noah.
It will take a bit of study, but look up Azazel in the book of Enoch.
He is actually the name that is translated scapegoat so you won't know that all of the sin of Israel was transferred to Azazel's goat, to be driven out into the desert where the abyss was, where all sin was transferred to him.



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 08:41 PM
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It all sounds magical and fanciful, hard to believe of whats coming to this planet (or whats already here). Sometimes I wonder how these things will be represented....how are we going to perceive these spiritual and demonic forces? Perhaps aliens, is what I am thinking as of late. All alleged species of them



posted on Sep, 30 2010 @ 11:11 AM
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What I'm waiting for, is someone to dig up the remains of a minotaur, cyclops etc. Giants they already have. The royal British museum already has these, but refuses to display them, claiming them to be an anomaly. Strange, considering as soon as a skeleton of some hominid shows up, every scientist and media guy jumps the story as the NEW proof of evolution. Yet many of these skeletons of the giants exist and no display is ever done. Why, it blows the theory. Can't have that, no funding in that. Oh wait, scientists ALWAYS tell the truth.



posted on Sep, 30 2010 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by shoulda taken the blue pi
What I'm waiting for, is someone to dig up the remains of a minotaur, cyclops etc. Giants they already have. The royal British museum already has these, but refuses to display them, claiming them to be an anomaly. Strange, considering as soon as a skeleton of some hominid shows up, every scientist and media guy jumps the story as the NEW proof of evolution. Yet many of these skeletons of the giants exist and no display is ever done. Why, it blows the theory. Can't have that, no funding in that. Oh wait, scientists ALWAYS tell the truth.


hey! where did you read the british museum has giant skeletons? i would like to hear more about this.



posted on Sep, 30 2010 @ 05:37 PM
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It seems so fantastic when you realize that all those gods that tortured the population from Mt Olympus were actual beings! All these years we were taught that they were just fantasy, and now find out that it was all real at a time in history! How easy it has been to mislead us and conceal the truth.



posted on Sep, 30 2010 @ 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by shoulda taken the blue pi
What I'm waiting for, is someone to dig up the remains of a minotaur, cyclops etc. Giants they already have. The royal British museum already has these, but refuses to display them, claiming them to be an anomaly. Strange, considering as soon as a skeleton of some hominid shows up, every scientist and media guy jumps the story as the NEW proof of evolution. Yet many of these skeletons of the giants exist and no display is ever done. Why, it blows the theory. Can't have that, no funding in that. Oh wait, scientists ALWAYS tell the truth.


Well said.

Some background to this info...

My old mentor now in her 80's worked on translating the sumerian tablets for the British Museum during the early 1970's in what they termed their too hard basket.. the same ones Sitchin worked on. And the two of them argued like mad over some things he said.

During that timeframe the Museum discovered another .. the 3rd so far... massive sarcophagai that was the exact dimensions of what the tablets tell us was used for the euthenased failed experiments from their Genetic manipulations of then current lifeforms on our world as they worked to create a slave.

These creatures were cut up, and sealed in pitch.. naturally occuring in the area... and then the sarcophagai was sealed and buried. The tablets even tell us why this was done.. it seems they already understood something we are learning.. that every atom in my body if allowed to disperse on open earth will eventually over a prolonged timeframe reform the same physical form as the original. This they had to avoid as they called these failed experiments Abominations.

Once the Museum had completed cleaning and reassembly of these creatures, my old mentor requested an official report, which I have read with my very own eyes!! The last line of that report is the one that stands out the most... "These are creatures from our mythology and worst nightmares."

The sumerians even left us with depictions of these Abominations.. such things as Centaur, Griffin, etc. And yes the British Museum doe shave these things locked away from public view, and has so far refrained from sharing the information gained.

I think this was done for one reason only.. to not rock our boat! Seriously, imagine what would happen with Religions .. and thus our society's built on that religion...when the facts of our genesis are made open to the public? It would be mayhem.. all the religionists hate this information.. it would undermine everything they Ever Believed about God and our Genesis to Homo Sapien Sapien.

Hence why it is still being withheld even today.



posted on Oct, 1 2010 @ 08:10 AM
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I think it would help to prove a lot of what has been discovered in the Chronicle Project, actually. The combination of the newly translated SDH and the book of Enoch together paint a pretty clear picture of what our history really was. I understand that the "religious" sector will always have a problem with anything that they didn't discover themselves. That is inevitable. But wouldn't it be wonderful if the truth of all that history and supposed fantasy could be freely studied and accepted? It doesn't change belief in God in any way, it simply proves that He is AWESOME!



posted on Oct, 1 2010 @ 08:17 AM
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So you're trying to present the accurate translation of these text? How were they not already accurate? Do you just follow these works because you agree with them? The Book of Enoch is not even a documented ancient text! It's just part of ancient Jewish belief. Book of Enoch



Western scholars currently assert that its older sections (mainly in the Book of the Watchers) date from about 300 BC and the latest part (Book of Parables) probably was composed at the end of the 1st century BC.


So how could this be history? I will never understand religious logic like I used to. Maybe it's just blind faith.



posted on Oct, 1 2010 @ 09:07 AM
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I think there is alot of truth to be found through old writings but I also think that we rarely receive both sides of the story. What we get is a watered down assumption that is biased of the people that finally put it into writings.

But to take it to this level....to bring in the 'real god' I guess you could say as you kinda did in your below question...




This begs the question, was the Earth destroyed by the tsunami / flood, to stop the complete contamination of the Earth's species? If so, this answers many questions.


We have some problems here. Was the creators design not perfect? Were these things not supposed to happen? If the flood was brought on intentional....does that mean something needed fixed in the great design? And then...what about the issue of giants still being in the lands after the flood? Was the fix not perfect or did these beings just return to perform the same 'wrong action' that they did to begin with? If so, why couldnt a perfect creator not fix this problem and just rid of them in a perfect way where this problem would of not happened again>

So I guess my issue in this is that a perfect emanator of all things did not have a perfect plan and it needed to fix it, and the fixing still didnt do the job.

Could we be in a design where there is not 'fixes' needed, that all things just play out when nature does make a change on the world, do we just credit these things to a 'god' or a 'Satan' out of a need to personify history?

If we were to go to a planet...coming from the sky...would we not seem like a 'god' in some manner? Could those beings on that planet wrongly misinterpret things and call us 'evil gods' who invaded their space?

This really begs the question, if 'god' is playing a part here in intervening and creating, is thee perfect? Not saying that this would disprove a Spirit of life within all things....but maybe life just emanates from Spirit and all beings are weighed and measured in the bigger picture. If a being comes and tries to control, and other beings awaken to that controlling behavior....maybe this is what the spirit NEEDS to happen, so weighing and sifting of natures can occur truly. Maybe through things like reincarnation seeds are reaped and all things are learned in a natural way. Maybe all that has happened, with mans choices and natures changes, was supposed to happen. Maybe the flood was just natures need for what earth needed at that time, not so much what 'beings' needed.

I am jst not seeing anything supernatural as of yet. Like a divine intervention.



posted on Oct, 1 2010 @ 09:11 AM
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Gods? Have can there be more then one God out there. What about Jesus. People we have proof Jesus existed and he is living.



posted on Oct, 1 2010 @ 09:24 AM
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Even if he existed, what does that prove to you? He is not the only man people have ever claimed to be a son of god, in effect, being a god.

Just saying, I believe he existed to...I just dont credit men to being gods.

And I agree...if there is more then one god...its not really a god then is it?

The word 'god' is highly polluted these days....I think using a term like 'divine spirit' may work better. We, in a sense, create offspring, our children. In a since, we are creators. But we pass on the 'divine spirit' to them, making the 'divine spirit' the higher source of their life still, for it is their life force within them.

I think many 'creators' have been here, maybe even was always from earth and later just misunderstood as being from elsewhere. Some may have even misunderstood them to be 'gods' sense they were creators.


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posted on Oct, 1 2010 @ 09:41 AM
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I think that you would both really benefit from checking out this link:
www.thechronicleproject.org...

It is the History of The Supremes. Don't give up reading until you read the paraphrased english. I know how easy it is to just dismiss all religious text because it is misleading. Please, if you want some truth, go read the site. Make sure to check out the home page where they explain just how this works.



posted on Oct, 1 2010 @ 09:44 AM
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Hello, RR! I see you are still tilting at religious windmills. Just remember, when it comes to the Chronicle Project, religion plays ZERO part in it. Just the true words, as they were meant to be read. Try to see it that way.



posted on Oct, 1 2010 @ 03:35 PM
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For those looking for a lot of info about the giants, check out Steve Quayle's site

www.stevequayle.com...

This has just about everything
Then as Jenneybee said, check out the Book of Nakha (Noah) at
www.thechronicleproject.org...
and also the Book of Enoch online, first couple of chapters.

Thanks for the input from people on the thread so far. Its obvious who has read up and who's just mouthing off.



posted on Oct, 1 2010 @ 03:39 PM
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I can vouch for Egyptian Gods Ive encountered both Khnum and Anubis,haven't heard a dicky bird from anything Christian in my 45 years though.



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 04:19 PM
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Now to throw one more rock into the pond, when the human genome project was completed a few years ago, they found that some human's DNA contained what they called a genetic super code among the regular DNA. They theorized that aliens might have used Earth as a genetic experiment area. Is this leftover from the time of the giants.


You have evidence of this of course ?



posted on Oct, 5 2010 @ 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by The Djin
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Now to throw one more rock into the pond, when the human genome project was completed a few years ago, they found that some human's DNA contained what they called a genetic super code among the regular DNA. They theorized that aliens might have used Earth as a genetic experiment area. Is this leftover from the time of the giants.


You have evidence of this of course ?


I describe how I got hooked up to the racial unconscious in my own threads so I am loathe to repeat it all here. Just pop by the start of most of my threads and read the hows and whys if you wonder. But on to answering about the giants...

What I see in the racial unconscious is that, yes indeed, the greys used alien DNA in humans, to create the many different appearances of humanity, i.e. Caucasian, Asian, Native American, middle eastern and so on. Each different 'type' of human was manipulated by the use of the alien DNA of the species they 'worked' for. The original human is the typical african genotype aka black person. The Asians were made to look as close to the Greys as possible, the Caucasians as close to the elves as possible, the Native American as close to the star people and so on.

The 'giants' were created to work with the Neanderthals who were here doing labor for the elves. They are a big people and so they wanted humans who could keep up. Unfortunately the human genotype doesn't lend itself to being stretched so big and they came out pretty distorted looking. The Neanderthals didn't care, but the elves were appalled. They are total beauty addicts and they couldn't bear to look at the 'giant' humans, and made the greys stop making them. The 'giants' were pretty much sterile as well, so when the greys stopped making them, they died out.



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 08:25 PM
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If the grays did make us, how come the descriptions of the ETs interacting with the humans in Genesis have NO resemblance to the dead gray midget ETs everyone sees?
Maybe its a different race all together and the grays are new to the scene.
Lets not give credit without proof



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