China issues warning to Nobel panel

China issues warning to Nobel panel

The Chinese government has warned that relations with Norway could suffer should a Chinese dissident be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for 2010. Deputy Foreign Minister Fu Ying conveyed that message during a visit to Norway earlier this year, Nobel Institute director Geir Lundestad told Norwegian
broadcaster NPK.

The institute assists the five member Nobel Committee in selecting the winner. This year’s prize is to be announced October 8. A handful of Chinese dissidents, including imprisoned Chinese human rights activist Liu Xiaobo, AIDS activist Hu Jia, and human rights lawyer Gao Zhisheng, are believed to be among the record 237 nominees this year.

OK, So now China wants to be able to dictate who gets the Nobel Peace Prize.
Does this strike anybody as a bit paranoid on the Chinese part? I mean the newest up and coming Super power always seems to be afraid of single individuals.

The Dali Lama and now this.

Considering Obama got it after 9 months in office, I really don't think winning a Nobel Peace Prize means all that much any more. China needs to chill and not worry about things as meaningless as this.

reply to post by SLAYER69


It is a bit strange. The Nobel prizes should be independent of any outside influence but we have seen how it has worked in the past..Gore and Obama?
It's a shame many today think the Nobel awards are a joke.

Well I wasn't a big fan of Obama winning last time around.

China's just going through the paranoid teething stage of the emerging super power. But your right needlessly so here. There is no way the strangle hold is going to be weakened by the publicity this guy may receive. They are definitely afraid of icons, and symbols.

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seriously chinese dictating who gets a nobel peace prize..............hmmm hello? communist!!!!!!!!

According to Nobel's will, the Peace Prize should be awarded to the person who
“ ...shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses"

does china or any citizen there in really follow in the guidelines of that? no.

chinas actions with japan contradict this chinas actions with the us contradict this chinas actions agianst its own people of the past contradict this.


nobel peace prize is the work of promoting peace and if china thinks they deserve one hell just make a knock off .

China putting its foot down.
Like all the people of their heritage in all the countries in the world
holding Nobel Prize winning work are different than the rest those
that hold bad opinions of the Mother land.

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Well, it seems they just don't want anyone who opposes their way of law to be recognized as a good person.
Not that all people who get Nobel Prizes are "good".
They are kind of like Cracker Jack prizes. Anyone can get one.

Liu Xiaobo
(simplified Chinese: 刘晓波; traditional Chinese: 劉曉波; pinyin: Liú Xiǎobō; born December 28, 1955) is an intellectual and human rights activist in China. He has served as President of the Independent Chinese PEN Center since 2003. On December 8, 2008, Liu was detained in response to his participation with Charter 08. He was formally arrested on June 23, 2009, on suspicion of "inciting subversion of state power."[1][2] He was tried on the same charges on December 23, 2009,[3] and sentenced to eleven years' imprisonment and two years' deprivation of political rights on December 25, 2009.[4]

Wikipedia source: Liu Xiaobo

Hu Jia
(Chinese: 胡佳; pinyin: Hú Jiā; original name 胡嘉, Hú Jiā; born July 25, 1973, in Beijing) is an activist and dissident in the People's Republic of China. His work has focused on the Chinese democracy movement, Chinese environmentalist movement, and HIV/AIDS in the People's Republic of China. Hu is the director of June Fourth Heritage & Culture Association, and he has been involved with AIDS advocacy as the executive director of the Beijing Aizhixing Institute of Health Education and as one of the founders of the non-governmental organization Loving Source. He has also been involved in work to protect the endangered Tibetan antelope. For his activism, Hu has received awards from several European bodies, such as the Paris City Council[1] and the European Parliament, which awarded its Human Rights prize to him in December 2008.

Wikipedia source: Hu Jia

Gao Zhisheng (Chinese: 高智晟, b. 1966) is a Chinese army veteran and self-taught lawyer. He was described by the New York Times as "one of China’s most high-profile human rights lawyers."[1] He has been disbarred, detained, and tortured by the Chinese secret police after taking on human rights cases.[2]

Those he has defended included fellow activists, and religious minorities like Falun Gong and Chinese underground Christians. He has also written open letters to Chinese leaders denouncing the treatment of Falun Gong practitioners, and another open letter to the United States Congress [3]. In 2006, he wrote a memoir on his life and work, A China More Just, the English translation of which was subsequently published in 2007.[4] Gao's disappearance on 4 February 2009, and the authorities disavowal of his whereabouts sparked concerns about his safety.[1] When he resurfaced in March 2010, having been charged with subversion, he said he would no longer criticise the government.[5][6] He disappeared once again on 21 April 2010.

Wikipedia source: Gao Zhisheng

According to your link these are just 3 of the 237 nominees.
Well, we don't know the real list yet...
After reading a bit on these individuals, I just see them as being outspoken activists for human rights.
The one guy, Lui, was adamantly against the way China treats is citizens...and I agree.
Jailed for a long time over that.

Well, all I can say is that when Communism rules, they really try to punish those that oppose them.
You can't do anything to help out it's people.
Go figure.

Originally posted by Jenna
Considering Obama got it after 9 months in office, I really don't think winning a Nobel Peace Prize means all that much any more.

That did knock quite a bit of the lustre off the award.

The Nobel Pre-emptive Peace Prize .

I thought the Nobel Prizes were supposed to be above and beyond politics, hence the awarding to individuals?

Tell China to get a grip, it would show more cajones to let a dissident get it as opposed to fighting it.

You have to admit that the Nobel Prizes are all political and they have deliberately targetted China for years, first getting awarded to the Dalai Llama who has a mountain of evidence of him collaborating with the CIA.

He has been photographed wearing Gucci shoes and expensive watches, he travels around in a Limo.

bbs.chinadaily.com.cn...

Aren't monks supposed to disdain materialism?

Why should this chinese dissident get the prize? because he talked smack about the government?

What about all the dissidents in the USA who have been jailed for doing the same? Like the guy who leaked the videos from Afghanistan? or Julian Assange?

Why not give it to General Liu Yazhou of China? Who has been advocating Democracy in China for almost 10 years? and his writings are on sale in every bookstore in china?

www.radioaustralia.net.au...

What is the difference between Liu Yazhou a democracy advocate and Liu Xiaobo?

Liu Yazhou advocates Democracy, Liu Xiabo advocates terrorism and violent overthrow of the government.

Somebody needs to tell china to take a long walk off a short pier.

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Oh come on, quit picking on China. Heck, there are members of our government right now that think ol Mao was a cheeky fella.

Always wished I would have enough balls as this guy, if or maybe when it comes time here.

You know the minute I hit [post] I knew people would bring up Obama winning a preemptive prize.

Originally posted by Big Raging Loner
Well I wasn't a big fan of Obama winning last time around.

China's just going through the paranoid teething stage of the emerging super power. But your right needlessly so here. There is no way the strangle hold is going to be weakened by the publicity this guy may receive. They are definitely afraid of icons, and symbols.

Well if China wants to be seen as the next Super power they had better develop thicker skin. The need to learn how to take criticisms and being critiqued by the global public. As an American I see it all day everyday.

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I hear yeah but to threaten a whole country over this?

Get a grip China and Chill out.
pfft

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I remember watching the whole thing live on TV.
That was sad what happened later though.
Remember the Goddess of liberty?

Well I hope it does happen, this will show them just how much hot air their tantrums are filled with.

Whatever!

Sorry to be the one to say this (but somehow it's always me!) but who cares about the Nobel prizes? Well, except those who win them of course. To the average person, what are these prizes for or about?

This is especially true with Obama's appeasement prize/publicity stunt.

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Actually, I forgot all about that. It has been 22 years. Here is a nice article on it that I dug up-

www.americanthinker.com...

Here is a picture of it-

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Thanks for the reminder, I remember the timeframe when this happened, but I was a little younger and did not pay much attention to things around the globe. That was a completely different era.

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Yeah that's her!

I remember it very well. I watched everything I could. It was so close on the heals of the Berlin wall coming down people thought then that the whole communist world would come crashing down.

Then they killed and jailed people