Homeland Mobilization?

I was sent an interesting video on you tube and thought it interesting enough to post it.

Now before you chew my head off, i understand things like this are not always certain and we need to take it for what its worth. At the very least, its something to take into consideration, whether or not its valid. Do note however that he is just relaying information and not stating what is planned.


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The reason i think this is interesting and relevant, is because its completely believable. nothing he says is hard for me to relate to as i am a former marine and remember how they had us on standby for EVERYTHING with no further details. Take it for what its worth and let me know your thoughts on this.

link is broken brother ,can you post the direct youtube link ?
second line


many thanks Nephi

What a shame. Link isn't working.

Second line.

Your video isn`t playing........for me.

fixed, sry bout that. iv been here about a year or so and this is gona be the first thread of mine.

be gentle

Now that was interesting,
so by Monday something should happen if its going to with this alert, is that right?
I've read (and watched) so many of these kinda things i'm almost numb to them but ya never know.
Place your bets and let's see what happens

This is very interesting, but I couldn't find any corroborating information anywhere
on the web except for GLP (which I didn't even look at) and a few replies on the video
which are unsubstantiated as well.

he wasnt exactly saying when something would happen, he was saying that a lot of the units were being placed on QRF (quick reaction force) for domestic problems. iv been on QRF before in iraq, its a state of readiness where you can leave at any time. When that time comes, if it comes, which i don't think that this is untrue, then what would happen is the order would be given, and at the same time given a brief on what they are expected to do.

so keep in mind, QRF could mean until a couple days, or weeks, or basically until they let their men know they are no longer on QRF. and just because you are on QRF doesn't always mean something will necessarily happen, but they are ready if it does.

This is completely false, the 82nd Airborne Div has not been mobilized for "Homeland Security". I can guarantee it. This guy probably got information from some enlisted soldier who got wind of the MPs training with the local police dept (or something just as routine and non-important), which happens often and is not out of the ordinary. Again, this is not true, nothing to worry about.

I know this because I have many ties with the 82nd, to include one of my best friends who is also a "god-parent" to my children. He is an operations officer in the Division G3 and I talk to him daily. I think if one of the Army's spear head divisions were being prepared for deployment against US citizens, on US soil, it would be big enough news.

Furthermore, a "QRF" or Quick Reaction Force is a force-management tactic designed to back up already deployed soldiers on patrol or on perimeter. The idea behind it is to give quick reinforcement to the soldiers and areas in need at any particular moment. It allows a force to do more with less and is used in conjunction with other forces. A "QRF" would not be established to solely suppress civil uprising, as the term would imply.


--airspoon

What's scary is that he is claiming American soldiers were briefed on how to
engage enemy combatants (in this instance American citizens) and what level
of force to use.

If this is just a drill couldn't drills of this type (ie, preparing to mobilize against
American citizens) be used to desensitize the armed forces to such a
scenario? Not enough Americans are aware of Posse Comitatus, which, as
I understand it, can only be legally circumvented only by fiat of congress and not by
executive order.

The crime for those engaged, or for those giving orders to the armed forces
to engage American citizens.....is......a misdemeanor with a max 10k fine.
Not much of a slap on the wrist....

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Finally some sense and reason.

Others I have talked to and peeking around the net has shown nothing.

Another "I heard a friend say, his buddy said, so it must be true"!

LA TIMES REPORTING ENTIRE 82nd AIRBORNE STATESIDE FOR "full-spectrum operations"

www.latimes.com...

Here is the full spectrum operations handbook:
usacac.army.mil...

from section 1-17:
1-17. Civil support operations will continue to involve Regular Army and Reserve Component Soldiers
and civilians operating with nongovernmental, local, state, and federal agencies. Since the homeland is
vulnerable to attacks and natural disasters, all components must be prepared to conduct civil support operations
on short notice. Regular Army forces are normally involved in civil support when natural or manmade
disasters and incidents within the United States and its territories exceed the capabilities of Reserve
Component organizations and domestic civilian agencies.

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All that is saying, is that the Army is going back to its "normal" training focus, to counter a wide variety of enemies, instead of just the Afghan and Iraq insurgents that we have been training for over the last 8 - 10 years. For the last 8-10 years, the Army has pretty much focused on the ME mission and now, that is coming to a head, indicating a good sign for these wars, IMO. This does not mean that they are being deployed against Americans or on American soil.


--airspoon

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Isn't it also possible that you are no longer in "the loop" and not in the know this time? Maybe you aren't privy to things any more dude. Just a thought.

My money is on anti-war protesters coming out protesting, if this story is true. They are raiding protesters homes today. You would think this would be a reason to get some troops on stand-by.

IF US forces were to attack or occupy the states, I do believe the US military will most certainly split upon imminent deployment. Many, MANY, soldiers will defect and leave to side with their family and friends taking their fun federal toys with them. It will be all out war if a full scale military movement is made against the people and much of the military will side with the people; considering many of them will uphold their oath to the Constitution, and realize their loyalty is not to the Federal government.

ill have to side with airspoon. i have another friend who also knew several people in this unit and they have said the same as to nothing out of the ordinary is occurring with them. the guy in the vid probably has been misled or misinterpreted what he was told. or the soldier telling him was

A friend of a friend told my friend who posted a video on You Tube.

Must be true. Of course, You Tube is about as reliable as FAUX News and CNN for news.

Not buying it. Didn't watch video - link is broken again.

Originally posted by AzoriaCorp
IF US forces were to attack or occupy the states, I do believe the US military will most certainly split upon imminent deployment. Many, MANY, soldiers will defect and leave to side with their family and friends taking their fun federal toys with them. It will be all out war if a full scale military movement is made against the people and much of the military will side with the people; considering many of them will uphold their oath to the Constitution, and realize their loyalty is not to the Federal government.

You are correct. Many military service personnel are split and conflicted even when they are sent to WAR, which is what they volunteered for, trained for, and are paid to do.

If they were deployed in large numbers against US civilians, it's likely that many wouldn't show up, or would go AWOL.

Doesn't mean the orders still wouldn't come from TPTB, but I think it's very unlikely.

However, Homeland Security bill or "Patriot Act" as well as the CONSTITUTION allows for deployment of US troops on US soil whenever a large scale public unrest "threatening public safety" is expected, and this can be interpreted in SO many different ways.

Originally posted by AzoriaCorp
Many, MANY, soldiers will defect and leave to side with their family and friends taking their fun federal toys with them.

If you could guarantee this reaction
it would be a great premise to keep the military operating in
the States for years as they humbly hunt down and collect all those toys.


David Grouchy