Supernatural Season six

am i the only one who thinks we have jumped to another story arc again? What happened to purgatory ? Another loose end persumably closed with crowley. Just so much jumping around and loose ends...this is almost getting to sarah connor chronices style

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The Crowley/ purgatory story may have just been the tool they needed to bring Sam back from the dead. The series wouldn't be much without the two brothers after all.

I think the series will be going into a whole new direction now that Sam is whole again. The 1st half of the season was mostly about bringing Sam back and scattering around a few clues here and there about what was to come in the rest of the season.

I think Crowley and the purgatory storyline are dead and buried for the rest of the season.

I'm really thinking Sammie's body refused the soul.
Death probably already knew this and never mentioned it.
He never volunteers info, he prefers to be asked directly.

Death wanted his ring back and now he has it. He is the only Horsemen to hold a ring, there must be power in that too.

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I don't think Death would have gone through the trouble of getting Sam's soul out of the cage if he knew the body would reject it. Going in there with Satan and Michael would have been dangerous even for him, I doubt he would bother if he thought it wouldn't work. Sam didn't kill Bobby, so he wasn't able to complete the spell.

I think Death is tired of the angels and demons messing with the natural order. The brothers have proven smart and determined enough to resist and thwart their plans in the past. Maybe Death believes they have what it takes to finally put an end to all of the angel and demon wars on Earth.

Well thought out.
Death does seem 'tired', but I figured that was just his persona.
I do doubt though that it was hard for Death to retrieve the soul.
He appears to be upper management and at least a step or two above Lucifer in general.

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Lucifer was able to control Death after he summoned the Four Horsemen. The reason Death gave Dean the ring in the 1st place is so that he could get out from under Lucifer's control. Angels and Demons both seem to have the power to overturn death and bring people back to life, so it seems that Death is not the final authority in all matters. Going into a cage with the most powerful angel and demon must have been at least a little dangerous for Death.

He only offered to bring back one soul from the cage and forced Dean to decide which one he wanted. It may have been that Death was punishing Dean for not completing the challenge or maybe Death wanted to get in and out of the cage as quickly as possible for his own protection.

I think sam's body will take the soul because he did not complete the spell. I just also do hope this will be the end of making Sam whole. It will end most of the drama and they can continue with where ever else the story will go.
I think death is one of those special cases where no one can really hurt him. Lucifer might think he can control him or manipulate him or one thing or another. But in the end I don't think so. I say that because what would the world be like with out death? Lucifer trying to control death to me is mostly just showing the arrogance, narcissism, and self grandeur.

Originally posted by RedGolem
Lucifer trying to control death to me is mostly just showing the arrogance, narcissism, and self grandeur.

That sums up Lucifer quite nicely.
His downfall historically.

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Shadow
thanks for the comment. I am no expert of Lucifer but that is about what I was thinking also.
I would still like to know what has happened to Michael and his vessel.

Im thinking that with sam with his soul back he may become softer again im seeing him not being as tough and perhaps leading to dean getting into trouble more as sam isnt as 'tough'. However I think death giving the soul back was a simple barter and the clue about souls could be another loose end or an agenda for death. This season each person they meet has an overall agenda and whehter they can truly help or not is never known till the end therefore im not too sure if what death said can even be true, even maybe giving the soul back. Seemed too easy.

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qball
I think the values and uses of the souls will be a bigger part of the rest of the season if not more seasons. As to death, I don't know what his agenda might be or not be. I just do think he has no love of Lucifer, as was shown in the last season.

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I understand but I think its too open ended and the show does seem to be lacking direction this season and hasnt a solid direction like the others. Too many times its jumped The soul issue could literally mean anything, its now harder to predict then it was earlier in the season and harder to come up with less outcomes as its so open ended.

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Qball
as the show has ended one idea it has to start another. Yes there is a build up as to which direction it will be going. I agree I hope one direction is picked. The power of the souls I think will be something that is played into where ever it goes. The hunting will continue I am sure. Try not to be to hard on the direction. I just hope the characters are back to as close to normal as possible and they can keep building them.
Unforchantly I do fear we are in for more direction building before it levels out.

Do you know what they need to revisit? It's something that bugged the hell out of me.

It happened "Season 5, Episode 6: I Believe the Children Are Our Future"

Sam and Dean investigate a series of odd murders that strangely resemble fairy tales and urban legends. The brothers track down an 11-year-old boy named Jesse, and realize that whatever Jesse believes is coming true. Castiel appears again and tells Sam and Dean that Jesse is a serious threat and needs to be eliminated which deeply disturbers and divides them since it is against the Winchester brother's custom of killing a human.

What happened to this kid?

Something else I always wondered about the show, the Hellhounds are super bad ass, yet oddly enough, aren't used as often as they could be. You would think that hell would send these out more often.

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Whatukno
I do agree, that is something that could be revisited. I don't know what they would do with it but the way the show works they could do just about anything.

Originally posted by whatukno
Do you know what they need to revisit? It's something that bugged the hell out of me.

It happened "Season 5, Episode 6: I Believe the Children Are Our Future"

Sam and Dean investigate a series of odd murders that strangely resemble fairy tales and urban legends. The brothers track down an 11-year-old boy named Jesse, and realize that whatever Jesse believes is coming true. Castiel appears again and tells Sam and Dean that Jesse is a serious threat and needs to be eliminated which deeply disturbers and divides them since it is against the Winchester brother's custom of killing a human.

What happened to this kid?

Something else I always wondered about the show, the Hellhounds are super bad ass, yet oddly enough, aren't used as often as they could be. You would think that hell would send these out more often.

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I had almost forgot about the little antichrist.The kid is hiding in order not to be used by demons or killed by angels.If any side could get their hands on him they could have a super weapon.After the episode i remember we were betting on the kid's return on the show.
About the hellhounds.From what i have understood they are only use them on special occasions.Perhaps because they are difficult to handle or control. I think it would be the easy way out for the script to use these puppies more often.

I view the hounds more as animals being sent to do the bidding of the controller. Yes also an easy way to write a script, but is also in the myths as well as folk lore.
After all dogs and humans have been together so long that it is not really know if humans domesticated dogs or dogs domesticated humans.

I totally forgot about the kid, wasnt he hid in australia or some thing

If him and the writer where caught wouldnt that give you infite power essentially?

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Im thinking the writer is done.
I say that because the Armageddon story is over with.
They still could bring him back though, you never know.