False Flag Attack On Britain Immient?

Hello fellow ATSer's. Today I would like to talk about the possibility of a nuclear or chemical attack on mainland Britain.

Please note: This is not a prediction thread, I will not be discussing dates. I will be talking about the culmination of certain events that I think might be leading to an attack on Britain.

Firstly, why do I think this? Well one reason is because of Exercise Orion. For those not in the know Exercise Orion was a disaster training exercise for British fire and police services. The exercise trained officers to deal with the aftermath of a magnitude 8 earthquake but here's the problem Britain has never had an quake over a magnitude 6.1 (and that was a very long time ago), so whats the point the exercise?

Well what could do the same amount of damage as an mag 8 quake? a nuclear device!?! I believe Exercise Orion is a cover for nuclear event training. Also there were "Muslim officials" at the exercise but I don't think they will be the group of people who will be blamed, I believe that the blame will be aimed at the IRA.....why?

Irish Terror Threat

On Friday, Home Secretary Theresa May said the threat level had been raised from "moderate" to "substantial". This meant a terror attack in mainland Britain was a "strong possibility".

So the threat level has been raised, seems were gearing up for an attack. I remember a while back I read that there was a strong possible that a very powerful, very large truck bomb was on its way to Britain. All I could find on that was this (sorry for the age of the article).

So does Exercise Orion+raised threat level= imminent attack? The dots seem to connect, don't they?

What do you think?

Peace.
ALS

www.abovetopsecret.com...

A good thread with lots of info on Exercise Orion.

Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL

Well what could do the same amount of damage as an mag 8 quake? a nuclear device!?! I believe Exercise Orion is a cover for nuclear event training. Also there were "Muslim officials" at the exercise but I don't think they will be the group of people who will be blamed, I believe that the blame will be aimed at the IRA.....why?

I don't think many people would buy into the proposition that an IRA splinter group had got its hands on a nuclear device.

It would have to be a pretty big nuke to register magnitude 8.

For comparison the Russian Tsar Bomba, which is the largest nuclear device detonated in the world was 50 megatons and registered around 7.1 on the Richter scale (roughly magnitude 7).

reply to post by winston_jones


Why not? people seem to believe that a few Muslim men manage to hijack four planes and bring down two of the world most iconic buildings.

People will believe what their told to believe.

Peace.
ALS

Originally posted by Chadwickus
It would have to be a pretty big nuke to register magnitude 8.

I meant damage wise. I think a nuke would/could do the same if not more damage than a magnitude 8 earthquake.

Peace.
ALS

OK lets try to narrow down where this "false flag" incident might happen, Well i am fairly positive it will not be any Nuclear sites, To well guarded and the amount of explosives required to blow a reactor up would need to be enormous, I worked at BNFL sellafield and the amount of concrete and steel that went into that place was ginormous. (four batching plants on site alone). Military bases, Again to well guarded and armed guards ( mod police), I agree the CIRA will be the patsy on this for deflection purposes to stop anti Muslim hate mobs..

Government buildings, Probably not because they can shift the workload to other departments up and down the UK, (i am almost sure TPTB will have built in redundancy features) so that only leaves infrastructure IE the Railways, easy to access and deploy a device to render the network inoperable causing financial chaos up and down the country IMO.....

reply to post by ALOSTSOUL


There wouldn't be much of London left, and I doubt there would be much of an emergency team left either.

To give you an idea here's a map showing the the blast radius of the Tsar Bomba over Paris:

Zone of total destruction of the Tsar Bomba on a map of Paris: red circle = total destruction (radius 35 kilometers), yellow circle = fireball (radius 3.5 kilometers).

Originally posted by foxhoundone
OK lets try to narrow down where this "false flag" incident might happen, Well i am fairly positive it will not be any Nuclear sites, To well guarded and the amount of explosives required to blow a reactor up would need to be enormous, I worked at BNFL sellafield and the amount of concrete and steel that went into that place was ginormous. (four batching plants on site alone). Military bases, Again to well guarded and armed guards ( mod police), I agree the CIRA will be the patsy on this for deflection purposes to stop anti Muslim hate mobs..

Government buildings, Probably not because they can shift the workload to other departments up and down the UK, (i am almost sure TPTB will have built in redundancy features) so that only leaves infrastructure IE the Railways, easy to access and deploy a device to render the network inoperable causing financial chaos up and down the country IMO.....

Hi fohoundone, thank for the reply.

I have been wondering where this attack might take place, I thought maybe central london or the city of london in-fact. By nuking Europes banking capital it would plunge Europe, possible the world into a very serious recession perhaps even total collapse.

They both have something to gain. For the "terrorists" it high profile and for TPTB it would allow them to gain for control of Europe and it countrys.

???Maybe, its just a thought.

Peace.
ALS

I have to agree with you. Common sense would say, something its going to happen. But what is all up in the air. Lets hope, yours and my common sense sucks, because if it doesnt, GB has some major problems heading their way, and so does the rest of the world.

reply to post by ALOSTSOUL


Firstly, as I showed clearly in that thread about Exercise Orion, that wasn't anything new or strange to have in the UK. HF&R hold the worlds largest training exercises for Earthquake and disaster relief EVERY year and that wasn't even the first Exercise Orion either.

Secondly, the threat level was raised in response to Irish splinter groups who may be plotting attacks on the mainland, as they have been doing in N.I for the past couple of years.

Basically, you got 2, added 2 and came up with 4,456,873...

Funny how MI5 have taken the unprecidented step of laying out outside "threats" via Irish and Islamic terrorists right about the same time that the governments austerity buget cuts are about to kick in?

Funny that...

You could indeed be guilty of thinking that they are trying to ensure their own cash is not cut! But as for false flags ?

We ALL know that intelligence agencies would NEVER attack its own people to justify their own budgets...

Dont we????

reply to post by Chadwickus


Wow, thats some serious destruction. That would completely destroy all of london. Anyhow I don't think anyone would/could detonate the largest nuke ever built over London.

1. TPTB wouldn't be that stupid
2. Terrorists would never get their hands on it.

I think a one mega-ton (or less) bomb would be enough for this particular conspiracy theorist .

Britain has experienced, roughly, 200 years of terrorism.
Every conceivable political and religious sect have carried out some sort of action that can be defined as terrorism related in the United Kingdom.

Not everything is a false flag attack

reply to post by Chadwickus


While the potential for the RIRA to get control of a nuke of any size is absolute ZERO to the power of ten, I know the maths doesn't work, I think the OP was comparing the damage done rather than the seismic report, I also know the damage done by a nuke would be much greater than the examples of damage recreation I saw in the press reports of the exercise.

reply to post by ALOSTSOUL


This irish threat is an absolute lie, its part of the "politics of fear" mandate. Simply put after the cold war ended people began to relax and think freely again, govts DO NOT LIKE THAT! They need us to be compliant to usher in the one world govt, its well documented normal people normally shut up and stop asking the right questions when they are scarred. Everything that followed 9/11 has been a lie, this so-called "real IRA" is just another ficticious threat...

There is no imminent attack!

reply to post by strangleholder1

Fictitious?

How so? What about the two squaddies killed in NI as they collected a Pizza? What about the numerous pipe bombs being laid in N.I?

I am afraid that the splinter groups are a threat, albeit a small one. Dismissing everything as "false flag" or fictitious" is just plain stupid. It displays a woeful ignorance of the issues at hand, no understanding of the situation in N.I and no appreciation of history.

Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by ALOSTSOUL

 

Firstly, as I showed clearly in that thread about Exercise Orion, that wasn't anything new or strange to have in the UK. HF&R hold the worlds largest training exercises for Earthquake and disaster relief EVERY year and that wasn't even the first Exercise Orion either.

True but why with this exercise was a mag 8 Earthquake included as a scenario? when will we feel or see such a thing? Also it was highly publicised.

Basically, you got 2, added 2 and came up with 4,456,873...

Well that's my highly over active imagination for ya!

Peace.
ALS

It doesnt really matter if they (TPTB) have ago at the financial institutes after all its "electronic money" and easily reroute transactions (read Tom Clancy), My theory would be water ways reservoirs pumping stations and the lot.
Everyone goes on about "dirty nukes" What about dirty water nukes especially in the south of England its been well reported that the southlands have poor water supplies at the best of times so this could be a fairly high priority target IMO...

reply to post by stumason


I have to agree with stumason on this.

The RIRA are a real threat. Thats why I believe they will be the scape-goats for this "Attack".

Peace.
ALS