TRUTHERS! How do you feel about Obamas Comments about Ahmadinejad 9/11 accusations?

reply to post by CynicalM

Go back and do some real research instead of listening to MSM crap

I don’t watch MSM and if you are implying that my last post about Ahmadinejad is wrong then why don ‘t you prove me wrong?

In 2005 the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood leader, Mohammed Mahdi Akef, denounced what he called "the myth of the Holocaust" in defending Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's denial of the Holocaust.[109]

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[color=gold]Ahmadinejad says Holocaust a lie, Israel has no future
TEHRAN — President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called the Holocaust a lie Friday, raising the stakes against Israel just as world powers try to decide how to deal with the nuclear ambitions of an Iran in political turmoil.

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Perhaps, it is you who has failed to do any research.

reply to post by impressme


It is becoming widely known that the figures of deaths was a myth..Many learned years ago that the numbers were much lower that had been reported but chose to keep the higher figures to gain more sympathy...

Effectively, they hide the truth...
IMO, no one doubts the Holocaust, merely it's numbers...Therefore the extent of the atrocity..

Why do they do this????

Until 1989, notes Meyer, it was forbidden in eastern Europe to dispute the official finding that four million were killed at Auschwitz. At the Auschwitz State Museum, staff members who expressed doubts about this figure were threatened with disciplinary measures. In 1989 Israeli Holocaust historian Yehuda Bauer said that it is time to finally acknowledge that the familiar four million figure is a deliberate myth. /7 In July 1990 the Auschwitz State Museum, a Polish government agency, along with Israel’s Yad Vashem Holocaust Center, announced that altogether perhaps one million people (both Jews and non-Jews) died at Auschwitz. / 8

www.ihr.org...

THere are many more sources all giving slightly different figures because no one is exactly sure....
What is certain is that the number is nowhere near the 6 million Jews still quote to this day....

reply to post by CynicalM


Fist of all Ahmadinejad made the claim that the Holocaust never happened.

What does 6 0r 4 million Jews have to do with my above post to you? Nothing, Absolutely nothing! As for how many Jews were murdered, history has recorded 6 million and you are only talking about one concentration camp, there were many concentration camps, and they weren’t all in Germany there were concentration camps in other coutries beside Germany .

You have changed the question and discussion to something completely different.
Your comment to me has nothing to do with Ahmadinejad or my statement to you.

I have back my staments with sources and you have not disproved my claim.
Perhaps, in your mind, 4 million dead Jew is not considered a Holocaust, only 6 million? It really makes no diffrents to how many millions, the fact they were all murdered is what is important.

reply to post by L1U2C3I4F5E6R

Even though I disagree with Obama 99.9% of the time, I agree with him on this one specific issue.

Thread Title: "Did anyone ever see video about OBAMAS Secret 9/11 Anti-truthers HITSQUADS???"

Truthers are now directly connected to... Anti-American Extremists.

reply to post by Esoteric Teacher


I think yours was the best answer possibly given......
Nothing can reallly be added to it, except maybe, now on with the show.

reply to post by impressme

As for how many Jews were murdered, history has recorded 6 million and you are only talking about one concentration camp, there were many concentration camps, and they weren’t all in Germany there were concentration camps in other coutries beside Germany .

Mate. The 6 million figure has been revised even by Israel..
They just don't publish that fact for obvious reasons...

I would expect his quote loses a lot in translation..Where did the translation you accept come from?

Also, now that is a KNOWN fact that nowhere near 6million jews were killed, can we honestly say it was a Jewish Holocaust or a Human Holocaust???

You are aware that there were many more other people killed than jews right???

reply to post by CynicalM

What has he done to be considered a National Threat ???

Ahmadinejad has admitted publicly that the Holocaust never happened; second he wants nothing better than to wipe Israel off the map. Any government who wishes to wipe out a group of people, a country because they are successful in everything they do, are truly sick, envious, and full of hatred. In my eyes, he can be considered as dangerous as Hitler. Either the man is completely ignorant or he just another monster who wishes to kill all Jews.

Go back and do some real research instead of listening to MSM crap

I don’t watch MSM and if you are implying that my last post about Ahmadinejad is wrong then why don ‘t you prove me wrong?

Perhaps, it is you who has failed to do any research.

Still waiting for your answer?

reply to post by impressme

Still waiting for your answer?

In 1989 Israeli Holocaust historian Yehuda Bauer said that it is time to finally acknowledge that the familiar four million figure is a deliberate myth.

Mate, how many answers do you need...

is a deliberate myth

Are you saying you don't even accept the proof when its admitted by the Jews themself???

"is a deliberate myth" kinda does it for me..

reply to post by CynicalM

Mate, how many answers do you need...

What does all this have to do with Ahmadinejad statement and my post to you?

You apparently cannot except defeat.

No, I dont think Truthers are his target, I do think he has a right to speak his mind, and he spoke it well with out coming off as violent, or ignorant. And Yes I do think that 9/11 was in inside job and for anybody who thinks other wise needs to do some SERIOUS homework, because it was! The steel beams were cut at an angle just like how they do it to prepare for a demolition, and all kinds of other evidence. But, it was during Bush's administration, so putting the blame on Obama is not nessecary, it happened 8 years before he was president!

It is quite funny how this is all playing out.

Ahmadinejad called the American government out on there version of the events of 911 with nothing but truth.
Ahmadinejad also called the American government out on their response to the events of 911 with nothing but truth.
President Obama then responds by calling the truth hateful and offensive. lol

reply to post by impressme

Regarding Ahmadinejad's statements on Israel and the Holocaust, Shiraz Dossa, a tenured professor at St. Francis Xavier University, in Nova Scotia, Canada, wrote in June 2007 that "Ahmadinejad has not denied the Holocaust or proposed Israel’s liquidation; he has never done so in any of his speeches on the subject (all delivered in Persian). As an Iran specialist, I can attest that both accusations are false... What Ahmadinejad has questioned is the mythologizing, the sacralization, of the Holocaust and the “Zionist regime’s” continued killing of Palestinians and Muslims. He has even raised doubts about the scale of the Holocaust. His rhetoric has been excessive and provocative. And he does not really care what we in the West think about Iran or Muslims; he does not kowtow to western or Israeli diktat."[25]

en.wikipedia.org...

Do you want me to do your tax return for you aswell???
Geez mate, do some research..You call for proof, I give credible links,

You give nothing !!

I think it's great that 9/11 is finally entering into the public debate, even though it still involves childish name calling rather than rational arguments, but I don't think anyone can play the "ignorance" card anymore. Everyone may not be a 9/11 truther, but now everyone has at least heard of the 9/11 conspiracy theories and have heard at least once the phrase "9/11 inside job". Just a year ago the same could not have been said, the MSM did a good job of hiding this conspiracy from the public, but now, I think the entire world has been exposed to at least the theories, even though the majority may not be believers just yet.

As for Obama's comments, well what else is new, same old b.s. As for worrying about them targeting truthers as terrorists, THEY DO NOT HAVE THE BALLS. You can quote me on that.

Originally posted by StarrGazer25
No, I dont think Truthers are his target, I do think he has a right to speak his mind, and he spoke it well with out coming off as violent, or ignorant. And Yes I do think that 9/11 was in inside job and for anybody who thinks other wise needs to do some SERIOUS homework, because it was! The steel beams were cut at an angle just like how they do it to prepare for a demolition, and all kinds of other evidence. But, it was during Bush's administration, so putting the blame on Obama is not nessecary, it happened 8 years before he was president!

The fact that Obama has not prosecuted Bush for war crimes, and lies about weapons of mass destruction means Obama is just as guilty. And that's not saying anything about 9/11!

reply to post by filosophia


Not to mention that Obmama himself is commiting war crimes as well.
Me thinks it could be part of the reason he's not too keen on prosecuting President Bush.

This is what someone does when you have caught them doing something and they have no excuse for what you caught them doing, or question.
So they get all uppiety, stick their nose up in the air and walk out with what dignity they can muster knowing they are wrong, and say how dare you, this is absurd,
Now a real man would say how dare you sir, I challenge you on the feild of honor, you sir are lier and a thief of our good name, not walk out with your tail between your legs, like a wimp.

In Japan they commite Harri caray if they dishonor theirselves, I don't think it will ever catch on in the US

reply to post by googolplex

In Japan they commite Harri caray if they dishonor theirselves, I don't think it will ever catch on in the US

Now there's a plan for shrinking the size of Goverment.

There wouldn't be enough left to form a 4 piece band..

reply to post by CynicalM

Do you want me to do your tax return for you aswell???

No thanks, especially since your sources are “opinionated” and are not the facts.

Speaking before a crowd of supporters at Tehran University, he questioned whether the Holocaust was a "real event" and called it a pretext for the creation of Israel. He said the Jewish state was founded on "a lie and a mythical claim."
U.S. officials denounced the Iranian leader's comments on the Holocaust,which Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, called "hateful." She said President Barack Obama would not meet with Ahmadinejad during next week's gathering of world leaders at the U.N. General Assembly.

www.huffingtonpost.com...

Geez mate, do some research..You call for proof, I give credible links

Looks to me, like your sources can’t tell the truth.

Why is Wikipedia Not Considered a Credible Resource for Research Projects?
As a senior in high school in a college English, I hear on a daily basis that wikipedia.org is the worst source for writing papers, and that no one should be using it, that it's more of a resource that 6th graders sould be using since it's so horribly uncredible.
The great thing about wikipedia is that since it's a wiki, you're going to get opinions from many other writers every day.

www.associatedcontent.com...

Why Wikipedia Isn't Credible
Recently, I visited the wikipedia website and did some random searching. As a college instructor, I consistently ban wikipedia as a source because I find it to be unreliable, yet my students usually argue, stating that wikipedia is reviewed by employees and misinformation is corrected. As a compromise to my students, I agreed to give wikipedia a chance, thus leading me to my random search. Unfortunately, for my students anyways, the first entry I looked into was incorrect. Although I could go into extreme detail about all of the incorrect information, I'll only briefly touch on the subject in order to establish the problems with the entry. Keep in mind, I am not trying to claim that all entries in wikipedia are incorrect or invalid, only that some of them are and thus, the website should not be used for academic research.

www.associatedcontent.com...

You give nothing !!

Perhaps, we can say the same of you. You still have not answered my questions.

reply to post by impressme


Huffington post credible???

Fine, what is the question I haven't answered?
I promise to try and answer for you.

reply to post by Esoteric Teacher


And you what do you say, what do you do ? same as them ?

(And to my opinion, it is ridiculous to say Obama agenda is the same as Ahmadinejad agenda)