Being Gay isnt natural

Originally posted by dawnstar
reply to post by slugger9787

 

newsflash dear....
the only thing that supercedes the pain of childbirth is holding the new baby in your arms!!!

god, I've known women who've threatened to kill their husbands while in childbirth for giving her that "pleasure" she felt during the sexual act that produced the child! it is not what gets her through childbirth, it is not what causes her to feel that all that pain wasn't as bad as it was or was worth it....
it's that new life that she is holding in her arms!

I think the post was meant to be sarcastic toward another poster earlier.

Originally posted by TheKnave
This thread is making me depressed...are there seriously this many dumb people here? Let me break this down...

Point of side A: Homosexuality is Immoral because it was written in a book.

Point of side B: Homosexuality is a personal choice that does not infringe on any one elses rights.

Done...make your choice and take a step back.

At first I thought that too. That many seriously deluded people here? Hard to believe.

To get an idea of who you are speaking to I suggest checking out some of the most unreasonable posters other threads. You may save yourself some time. Nobody wants to argue a fool.

Originally posted by slugger9787
i will arrempt
male gets erection which prepares the penis to penetrate female vagina, up to and past the Circle of Os.
natural use of penis at this time is to achieve orgasm which naturally causes live fresh sperm to move to end of penis and shoot, yes shoot deeply into vagine there by increasing chance of fertilizing egg.

There's no such thing as "the Circle of Os".
Want to argue?
Find it in a book on anatomy, in an anatomy chart, or anywhere in medical literature.

My mother had 7 children and never had an orgasm.
I've had heaps of orgasms and only had 3 children.
This is typical of these two generations, the older one generally having less pleasure but higher fertility.
So how does a female's "euphoric recall" help perpetuate the species again?

It gets even funnier in your later posts where you imply the female has euphoric recall of male orgasms.

I've never once recalled orgasms, male or female, during childbirth.
Sorry, mate, euphoric recall is only relevant to addictive behaviours, and the few nymphos amongst us are too busy screwing to have babies. Women have sex for all sorts of different reasons, and orgasm is relevant to only one of them.


Slugger, I was wondering if you'd ever actually experienced the act. Now I'm wondering if you've ever actually known a woman ... apart from close relatives.

Wait... you can "wake up" gay? Doesn't work like that bro. I'm not homosexual, but it's a pretty easy concept... you look at an attractive female as a heterosexual male, you get turned on. Homosexuals look at an attractive male, they get those same physical feelings just as the heterosexual male did with the female. It's really that simple. I have two life-long friends from where I used to live that came out after they had went to college, and they're still great, GREAT friends to me. As long as they could remember they always had an attraction towards guys and not chicks. You honestly can not make this into a religious argument... religion has no place in a logical debate because it's not based on fact. You may believe it is, but it's not. There's no such thing as a "sin" to me, because sins don't exist. There's just common sense and morals ingrained in us by influences in each of our lives.

The god-fearing, bible bashing homophobes have won me over.

I agree, sex is only for reproduction and therefore every act of sex which is not aimed at reproduction is bad.
No more contraception, no more masturbation, no more sex for the infertile, and I'm going to accost the elderly in the street and tell them they'll go to hell for having sex when they're past reproducing.

Obviously, as sex is for having babies, we must outlaw all sex that does not maximise the likelihood of conception.
And what does maximise the likelihood of conception?
Luckily, science has discovered this, so we may all live sin-free lives by increasing the ratio of babies to sex acts.

Our analysis suggests that per-incident rape-pregnancy rates exceed per-incident consensual pregnancy rates by a sizable margin

Now we know the truth we must ban all consensual sex acts. They don't produce enough babies.

So guys, swallow your Viagra, pull on your black balaclava, fulfill the will of god and go forth and multiply!!!!




Warning to the religious and the otherwise intellectually handicapped, the above is sarcasm, jest, humour, not meant to be taken seriously, do not try this at home, do not try this anywhere else, etcetera.

reply to post by Kailassa


circle of os:
follow link
place screen magnification on
books.google.com... k&hl=en&ei=HkafTLGyIsP58AbnzIQf&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBUQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

A system of obstetric medicine and surgery: theoretical and ..., Volume 1 By Robert Barnes, Fancourt Barnes

page 244


Proceedings of the Dublin Obstetrical Society
by W ROE - 1879
trifle more, still the circle of os could be easily felt all round. Dr. Atthill .... Possibly a word about its morbid anatomy may not be out of place, as a ...
www.springerlink.com/index/2Q7G2WH341843744.pdf


Circle of os internum. Or. Os externum. /.:. ... anatomical demonstration differentiating these two regions of the uterus, divided the body of the uterus ...









The external os uteri was quite dilated, as was the cervical cavity; but the os internum and the circle of muscular fibresabove it, ...

Click here for more information.

reply to post by BrawleR


calling people who believe that homosexuality, bisexuality, gay, transgender is sinful, ummatural and wrong a homophobis is bullying.
they teach anti bullying courses in grade school.

those anti bullying classes are sissifying the males

hey maybe im on to something here!!!!.

Originally posted by slugger9787
circle of os:
follow link
place screen magnification on
books.google.com... k&hl=en&ei=HkafTLGyIsP58AbnzIQf&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBUQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false
A system of obstetric medicine and surgery: theoretical and ..., Volume 1 By Robert Barnes, Fancourt Barnes
Proceedings of the Dublin Obstetrical Society
by W ROE - 1879
trifle more, still the circle of os could be easily felt all round. Dr. Atthill .... Possibly a word about its morbid anatomy may not be out of place, as a ...
www.springerlink.com/index/2Q7G2WH341843744.pdf

Circle of os internum. Or. Os externum. /.:. ... anatomical demonstration differentiating these two regions of the uterus, divided the body of the uterus ...
The external os uteri was quite dilated, as was the cervical cavity; but the os internum and the circle of muscular fibresabove it, ...

Originally posted by slugger9787
i will arrempt
male gets erection which prepares the penis to penetrate female vagina, up to and past the Circle of Os.

Lol, from your quotes: "Circle of os internum. Or. Os externum. /.:. ... anatomical demonstration differentiating these two regions of the uterus, divided the body of the uterus ... The external os uteri was quite dilated"

Please don't tell me the penis penetrates up to and past the os uteri .....
These regions are part of the uterus.
You really think the penis penetrates the uterus?

That would not only be unnatural, but it would most likely kill the girl you did it to.

Epic Fail

Perhaps you should stop getting your information from books you don't understand, which use obselete terms because they were printed in the 19th century. You have caught up with the fact we're in the 21st century, have you?

How does a thread like this even exist on ATS? I mean seriously, how is some individual's opinion, no matter how limited or infantile, become alternate breaking news? This thread is a direct and proportional example of pure degradation of ATS and the intelligence of some of its members.

Have the OP define "natural", then apply that to lemmings, who control their population by either intentional suicide or lack of a good GPS system. Lemmings are nature, they are of nature and therefore natural. Whether we were designed by God, The Annunaki, or we just hopped over from Mars before we obliterated the place, humans are ALSO of nature, and therefore natural. If it's natural for lemmings to jump from cliffs, and it does seem to be, then it's perfectly natural for homosexuality to exist within ALL animals. As well, it's perfectly natural that this OP would begin a thread to anger people for ratings and results. It is the primitive mind that seeks infamy, and the advanced who shuns it. It's only natural.

reply to post by slugger9787

What you just wrote is not only insanely hard to comprehend due to poor grammar and structure but it also has nothing to do with what I said. I remember getting somewhat "bullied" in school for studying and getting good grades. Is that right? I remember two friends of mine in High School getting slapped in the back of the head and ragged on for throwing off the curve in a physics exam because they received high marks due to studying and hard work. What is bullying a homosexual in school going to do? Change them? Again, it doesn't work like that. All that they're going to do is make their lives "hell" even though school should be a safe haven and be purely for education.

Just because it is unnatural doesn't mean people don't have a right to participate in the act.
Nature has a way of cleaning the gene pool of unwanted or un-needed critters. If a man wants to poke another man then they can't reproduce and will eventually die out leaving only "animals" who do reproduce.

But we as a "smart" society have made it possible for homosexuals to adopt children and pass the malfunctioning thought patterns on to a new generation. So they will not ever be extinct as nature would otherwise dictate.

We as a species try to save every mentally sick, physically deformed being that nature would otherwise let go and we "save them" so they can be a supposedly productive part of our society. Nice gesture but in the end it only weakens the species. We are watering down the human race one gene at a time.

Agree or not is your choice but it is the truth.

reply to post by slugger9787

calling people who believe that homosexuality, bisexuality, gay, transgender is sinful, ummatural and wrong a homophobis is bullying.
they teach anti bullying courses in grade school.

They also taught you how to utilize commas and construct proper sentences; guess you didn't pay attention to that lesson. Unfortunately, that is the definition of homophobe. It's a word, and God's definition of homophobe will not be bullied. It's obvious that our country is still far too immature to change the definition of a word for basic human rights.

I might be on to something here.... only difference is, what I'm saying actually holds some value

As for your comments about the vagina, all I can say is... get used to being a virgin, kid.

Ok, Haydn I've been reading some of your posts and I believe I know what is wrong with your argument.

You keep on talking about nature's design for us, and maximum efficiency in reproduction, and maintaining fitness as a species. And that is all good stuff, essential to keeping our species alive and strong. But you are just talking about us like we are primal animals with no reasoning capabilities.

The one thing you are missing from your equation is free will, man. When was the last time you thought to yourself, "I'm gonna make a baby tonight", and literally actually intended to do that? Humans, along with a couple other species get pleasure from sex, it is not JUST for reproduction. And yes yes, that is what evolution intended it's use for, but then if everything was supposed to just bang and reproduce and die, why can we think objectively?

My friend, you are asking the wrong question. What you should be asking is a matter of consciousness in itself, why do people have to ability to choose to have sex with someone of the same sex, not why they are attracted to them. Look for the root cause of the question, not the effect. The EFFECT is attraction, the root cause is...?

Have fun thinking that one over.

NEXUS

Everyone is different, except of course for the Bigots, they are all the same...

Floor Knucklers.

reply to post by Brood


Here is my take on the increase of unnatural homosexuality.
for about forty years now American women have been flushing birth control pills
down the toilet. These excess female hormones have gotten into the water supply.
Young children drink the water and those who are male it is like taking a daily small dose of female hormones.

So it is unnatural to take in unneeded and unwanted female hormones and the unnatural result is an affinity to femininity.
corekted fur spelling.

reply to post by NoEXcUseS


Th root cause is using your free will to
pick actions which are unnatural.
Nature is the correct choice.
See my post about natural functioning of different body parts.

First of all don't be worried about offending people. Homosexuals couldn't care less about offending churches or anyone who thinks homosexuality is unatural. You only get offended if you're not secure in who you are whether it be homosexual, christian, muslim etc etc.
Secondly, I asked a large group of homosexuals who were protesting once, who were holding up signs that accused their detractors as 'bigots' I aksed them what the term 'bigot' meant. They said that is basically meant anyone with a gross intolerance of another views or lifestyle. (Note: Any homosexual who calls another person a bigot is one themself).
Thirdly I asked another group if homosexuality was anormal human function and they said "yes". Do they like women I asked. "No". Would they sleep with another woman I asked "No". So I aksed, if we take this correctly homosexuals want nothing to od with sexual relations with a woman and want a seprate distinct life. "Yes" they said. I put this to them....
Two islands that a re fully self sufficient. One with 100 men and 100 women and the other with 200 homosexuals. Lets visit that place in 150 years and one island barren and free of himan life and the other with a thriving society.....
The fact is Homosexuality is a dead end as far as the human race is concerned. The human race only exists because of hetrosexuals. The only thing that keeps homosexuality alive is the sexual relationships of hetrosexuals.
....and homosexuality is suppossed to be normal?

Gay is being happy by the way and I object to them using the term gay as a way of avoiding using the real name. If you are secure, don't hide behind anything.

Now, I know a lot of homosexuals will bring up all sorts of arguments but if in the end an isolated group of homosexuals can't ever grow and exist beyond their individual lifespans then that relationship if not perpetuating. It's a fact.

Ok, so have your sexual preference, live your life if you're strong enough to live it without acting like a victim or a someone who's not strong enough to accept some don't like you. We don't see those that like sex with animals marching on the streets and demanding equal rights, yet they would say it's valid, doesn't hurt the naimals (some of which get aroused) and doesn't hurt anyone. Just don't call it a natural sexual relationship as if it's something nature intended. It isn't and it can't be.

Then there's the urge or need or desire in homosexuals for children. It's a natural thing in human beings. But of course they have to go to lesbians or to adopt so they can feel what?.... like a 'normal family' is what I have herad some homosexuals say. A 'normal' family.!

Just keep in mind that those that get offended at these comments are causing offense for those that disagree with sticking a penis up an anus, yet will they stop doing it to prevent offense to those who think it's gross? Not likely.

wearing clothes isn't natural. cutting our hair isn't natural. Are those things wrong? Gay people have been around for HUNDREDS of years already, everyone isn't going to randomly become gay. And i think you're completely wrong about the fact that people are losing their instincts. We still have them, so maybe you should wake up and concentrate on the immense number of people who aren't gay and stop worrying about the comparatively minuscule population that is gay or bisexual.

reply to post by slugger9787


Ugh, why do you have to rely souly on sarcasm?! You've just condemned him of doing exaclty the same thing as YOU'RE doing! Why be so confrontational and personally insulting? It really doesn't help the thread progress - we've all got opinions on this subject, but at the same time we're all entitled to them, so lets just stay respectful of that ehy? Dude.