How does God want us to dispose of our earthly shell?

reply to post by zbeliever


My personal opinion is do what you want, it's your body. I think what you said about wanting to be cremated and scattered to the wind sounds beautiful. I want the same for myself, but to the ocean in a special place to me. I did find a good site that has a pretty good rundown about how the bible shows the issue... personally I don't follow it necessarily but you may be interested. www.religioustolerance.org...

I fear cremation because your nails, hair ect still grow due to a small amount of electricity generated by chemical reactions in your corpse. As a firm advocate of parapsychology I wonder if the electricity has something to do with releasing your sole from your body?
Fire is a very destructive process, and although it happens in the wild it is usually as a freak of nature. Perhaps this why ash is toxic to plants, sometimes many years before it becomes useful? Certainly in South England, is you ever return to where you lit a bonfire a year ago, you’ll see nothing is actually growing where the fire sat.

I think our body evolved to release the sole, within days of dropping dead (so that the dead could, on average, telepathically help the living)
I think the best way to go is be buried, but not in a modern coffin as that itself is highly unnatural, and usually (cos of varnish, metals ect) quite toxic to the earth. Instead I think its better being buried within a drape, in a hole in the ground, that’s has a wooden headstone (definitely not stone, as it’s widely believed (in black magic) to be a barrier for paranormal energy).

Whatever god we have doesn’t (certainly usually) stop physics to save e.g. a toddler slowly burning to death in a house fire, it also makes sense to assume that this god isn’t going to do much if for thousands of years, millions of well-meaning good people have disposed of the dead incorrectly.
I still believe in the afterlife, and wouldn’t be surprised if miracles do happen occasionally. I just don’t believe there is much evidence to support a very interventionist God

reply to post by faceoff85


... your soul is forever... your memory may not be...
... but even that can change in time...
... let your innerself make the hard choices for your mind can easily be clouded by judgement...from lack of understanding..

When I die, I want my body thrown to the wolves.

And, I am not Christian, but doesn't it say in the bible that after you die, and go to heaven, that you'll be given a "new body"? Like, an astral one?

And if it was really important to god that you are buried when you die, what happened to the saints that were burned at the stake? Did they not get into heaven?

Your body is useless after you die, do whatever you want with it.

I don't know if I would refer to my body as an earthly shell. It is more like
like an endo-robotic, sensory attenuating, biological soul interface.

That being said, I think feed me to some wild hungry animals or turn
me over into compost. That would be best for the planet and the life I am
leaving behind here. Oh yea, donate anything of use to anyone who
needs it...

On a more romantic note, I think bury me un-coffined and plant a tree
over me...not pecan, I never liked pecans

Originally posted by zbeliever
This is a question that bothers me...To tell you the truth.. I think being cremated and my ashes scattered to the wind
(because I'm a free spirit in life;so shall I be in death) sounds right for me.My question thou is some religions feel you should be buried into the ground...Now if this is so, years from now someone can dig up my DNA and clone me, and that is how I will awake from the dead...Count me out...I just wander what people feel Gods want us to do with our earthly shell ?

But if someone in the years to come were to try an clone you from DNA it would not be you! because you are spirit having a human expirence ,,not human have a spiritual expirence! you know what i mean?

Originally posted by BO XIAN
However, burial in the ground has always been the Hebrew way.

Not necessarily, here's an in depth article that covers the ancient Hebrew way. Read it all the way through and you will see that "burial" often meant being wrapped in a shroud and put on a ledge in a cave and then moved to a cemetery or left in the cave or later on in their history they began using ossuaries to hold the bones after the body had dessicated. Also the Hebrews' view of cremation is covered in the article, pretty intense.

Burial Practices: Ancient Jewish Laws Concerning the Burial of the Dead
www.jesusfamilytomb.com...

STM

Edit to add: The article also mentions the use of satchels to hold the bones, I guess so that if they moved they could literally take their ancestors with them?

I'd say given the course of human technological advancement, assuming said advancement is driven by a higher power, said higher power wants us to dispose of our bodies by transferring our consciousness into a machine.

God has no wants nor desires.

reply to post by zbeliever

I don't think this God-thing Cares what we do.

Seriously, it's about as caring of us as we are of an atom in a skin cell on your arm... we don't care so why should "it"?

So, anyway is a good way to dispose of the body you no longer need the use of.

I'm going for Donation to Science because I don't care what happens with my old worn out "car", in that way it may help others to learn, the parts get used for other people, and, my daughter won't have to find a ridiculous amount of money to pay a Funeral Service for the rental or purchase of a nice-looking box and all the other "stuff" we have been led to believe we MUST do/have.

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How about find the answer to the question : who am I ? Are you really your thoughts ? Are you the awareness that is aware of your thoughts ? What was Jesus refering to when he said Kingdom of God is Within ? Go within.. and seek the truth my dear friend.. the truth to who you really are.. until you are left with no doubts as to who or what you are...

Verify everything you come across with direct experience... There is a whole world within your consciousness... May my post be an invitation to explore your consciousness and to find out who you were all the time..

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Originally posted by zbeliever
This is a question that bothers me...To tell you the truth.. I think being cremated and my ashes scattered to the wind
(because I'm a free spirit in life;so shall I be in death) sounds right for me.My question thou is some religions feel you should be buried into the ground...Now if this is so, years from now someone can dig up my DNA and clone me, and that is how I will awake from the dead...Count me out...I just wander what people feel Gods want us to do with our earthly shell ?

I assume you're talking about the Christian God?
Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

So I guess mix your ashes with a couple of dust bunnies and you should be fine.

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How does God want us to dispose of our earthly shell?

I will share what I sincerely believe to be true. I think this refers to us being less dependent upon biological obligations and genetic instructions. I entertain the idea that if a God exists then that God would probably not want to write everyones' autobiographies for them. In other words: Your life is your autobiography. God and others can only offer to help proof read your autobiography, but ultimately you are the editor.

So if God wants us to dispose of our earthly shell, maybe it just means to not permit our internal hardwiring to make all the decisions for us. Don't be strictly instinctual creatures, but grow in more ways than just biologically.

hope this makes some sense, and I hope this helps,
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It does not make sense to me, can you imagine how many people have died over a period of tens of thoulsands of years. They assimilated with the ground, finding human relics that are old is like gold hunt.
Also population spawn has grown, we use to be less now we are like bugs everywhere, if there is a reincarnation process we may be free to go where ever we want into the universe. But the correct last answer to the question without tricking our selfs is equal to ="I don';t really know"

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by AlreadyGone
The reason the dead do not know anything is yes, we are dead...cold and still in the ground...our bodies rotting away... UNTIL, the dead are resurrected upon Jesus' return...or God's return, depending on which you interpret.

That notion doesn't work. It doesn't work scripturally and it doesn't work in reality.

1 - The 'good thief' (traditionally named St. Dismas) was about to die on the cross next to Jesus. Jesus said 'this day you shall be with me in paradise'. If Dismas was dead and unknowning in the tomb, he wouldn't be with Christ THAT DAY in paradise.

2 - Reality ... ghosts and near death experiences. People who have died and come back report everyone very much aware of what is going on and the are living on a different plane. They give information of what is happening in far away places and it turns out to be accurate. And ghosts ... VERY real. So obviously they aren't cold and dead in the ground.

It could easily be argued that Jesus was referring to the thief's perception of time from nothingness to Paradise. Seeing as how there is no memory or perception of time in death...

As well, the bible describes well what you describe here. These cases are, if they are true at all, the work of demons / the fallen.

Demons

With a bullet to the head!!!

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I don't think it matters.
I think those ceremonies and services are for the benefit of the deceased's relatives.
Soul leaves the body like a snake sheds it's skin.

God wants you to donate your body to science and be an organ donor.

reply to post by elfulanozutan0


I stand corrected. You are right.

I used to want to just be left on the front lawn to rot, but then I heard about the Tibetan 'Sky Burial!

I think that's about as close to nature as you can get.

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