Pentagon bodies from Flight 77

reply to post by freedom12


Map showing location of bodies recovered



Body recovery was done by FEMA teams called into assist

Each USAR task force consists of 68 persons organized into search, rescue, medical, and technical teams. Each task force is further divided into four six-person rescue squads; two 2-person technical search squads; four canine search teams; two medical squads; and specialists in heavy equipment, logistics, communications, structural engineering, technical information, and hazardous materials response. Each position on the USAR task force is duplicated to allow round-the-clock operations. This systematic approach, which worked so well at other disasters, proved itself once again at the Pentagon.

Naturally, USAR operations were preceded by standard "fireground" primary and secondary searches of all floors of the affected areas of the building that were accessible during the fire attack operations. These searches were conducted diligently by firefighters from the local agencies during the intense firefighting operation that had taken place during the first 12 to18 hours of the incident. Yet, because of the magnitude of the disaster and the limitations imposed by the manner in which the aircraft went through the building, thousands of square feet of space in the fire-affected areas of all five floors remained chest-high in incinerated debris. This required a third round of thorough searching by hand, to ensure that no bodies (or parts of bodies) were left behind or would end up in dump trucks during Stage 5.

When body (or partial remains located) FBI evidence teams would photograph it in situ before being removed.

In the collapsed section of Pentagon heavy equipment was used to uncover the debris

Once the debris was spread out, canine search teams would search for any scent indicating human remains. Then search team members conducted a physical search for remains, crawling and walking over all the debris. Finally, after being searched three or more times, the debris was loaded into trucks with skip loaders and taken to one of the Pentagon parking lots to be further combed for human remains and evidence by the FBI, ATF, military units, and Arlington Police Department. This process continued until the entire collapse zone had been dismantled and all victims were located and removed.

reply to post by Mercenary2007

also dereks doesn't have to provide proof he is not the one making claims. he is asking the people that are making claims for their evidence to back up their claims. could he go about it better? sure he could. But even i have to admit that its getting old when people make claims in a thread and show no evidence to back up their claims to refute the OS.

Yes, but the entire OS in many eyes is just "claims" also, with little proof to back it up and much hidden, including conflicting witnesses and confiscated video footage, and please dont tell me what we have seen is the ONLY video available to the Goverment..

The Goverment has never proven their CLAIM that the OS is correct..Not enough proof...

Originally posted by thedman

]reply to post by freedom12

 

Get hold of copy of book FIREFIGHT by Patrick Creed & Rich Newman

www.amazon.com...

Authors interviewed 150 people including many firemen on the scene at Pentagon. Describe finding of bodies
and recovery of the remains

Here are some photos of bodies being recovered in Pentagon - evidence at Moussaoui Trial

Discretion advised

No one said they didnt find bodies. Just no airplane parts.

reply to post by felonius


Plenty of aircraft parts were found - including jet engines and landing gear.




Explain how something like a jet engine or landing gear strut gets in the building ?

Here's your proof of no boeing hitting the pentagon:

www.youtube.com...

There is no way.

Originally posted by CrashGordon
Here's your proof of no boeing hitting the pentagon:

Not proof at all

www.unexplained-mysteries.com...
www.unexplained-mysteries.com...

"is "Plane Site" the most incompetent documentary ever produced,
deliberate disinformation to discredit the 9/11 truth movement,"

reply to post by dereks


Rather than just saying "no proof at all" how about backing that up with facts?

You question everything but don't seem to have many answers.

You often fall back on the OS and commission's report yet even that is questioned by the very people that wrote it...

I'm not even sure why you bother posting..

If all the truthers are a bunch of whack jobs then why bother??

Originally posted by CynicalM
Rather than just saying "no proof at all" how about backing that up with facts?

I did, why didnt you look at the links that showed how stupid that video was? Typical truther, they avoid the facts as they know they destroy their silly conspiracy theories!

reply to post by soleprobe


LOL..yeah, curious how the metal aircraft was supposed to have disintegrated on impact or in the fires (hot enough to melt steel, remember the towers?) but they can supposedly find intact flesh and bone of virtually all of the passengers, intact enough to identify them?!

Were the passengers all on a day trip from the planet Krypton then?

I've never heard of metal and other durable materials pretty much disappearing on impact, but flesh and blood being somehow impervious...there you go, learn something new everyday!!

Just another example of the sickening contempt they have for the public and their assumed gullibility.

They must have a lot of faith in the power of Fluoride to lower IQ, that's all i can say!

reply to post by thedman


4! How do you know there not from the Pentagon Building? PS it was a Missile...say that to your mate!

reply to post by thedman


Jesus do you belive that?

Hi, Is it just me or does the engine pic linked to look surprisingly small for that size plane? The red bucket in the photo is only a five gallon bucket, yet it looks big compared to the engine?

reply to post by adifferentbreed


You're referring to this photo?:




Firstly, I see mostly (the bits I recognize, at least) landing gear parts, there. I can see part of a strut, and a main gear wheel hub brake housing. It is difficult, though, in any airplane crash to tell what something is, often, due to it's being so distorted from crash forces.

Secondly, that debris, in the image, is NOT shown in position discovered. IOW, immediately after all debris came to rest, during the crash sequence. This photo is of the aftermath, same day I believe. There were survivors, despite the tragically killed. (Talking about people in the building, of course....not any passengers or crew). Rescue vehicles needed access, so debris was shoved aside.

reply to post by weedwhacker


Threads dead, trolls staring trolls..

enough

People just assume that truthers know all the answers. The fact is we don't, but the OS believers don't either... And thats why we are requesting a new investigation.

Like I said, we don't know what happened at the pentagon but there are more questions than answers. There were several security cams pointed at the pentagon and the footage was taken away.

Crates of plane materials could have been shipped into the pentagon, along with the prisoners still alive where they were held until the missile hit. Who knows really. Not us truthers and certainly not the OS believers.

Originally posted by dereks

exactly what other video evidence are you talking about

do you know how many cameras were on that side of the building? Do you know how many cameras were on other buildings and pointed at the pentagon?

There is alot of things that I don't know about. but security cameras isn't one of them. I install them. I know how to cover a regular building and I know how much it costs. I think the pentagon and the US government would have enough of a budget to have at least some security there. Hell, they might even be able to afford those cool PTZ cameras. I see them in the Wal Mart parking lot and on Schools. I guess schools and Wal Mart are much more important than the pentagon anyway. We have seen 1 video from 1 camera, and it was on the guard shack.

If you really want anyone to believe that a plane hit the pentagon, show us a picture of the plane. I know you can't because all the video footage is Classified. 9 years ofter the incident.

The only reason it would still be classified is if it didn't show a plane at all.

Please, if you are going to respond to this post, do so with some thought. I don't need any condescending questions. I think you have enough of them already.

reply to post by The_Zomar


The only "investigation" needed is the failure of the Bush administration to be aware of, and act to prevent, the impending threat posed by Atta and those he led.

As to the rest? The only "questions" re: the Pentagon event are made-up by the ridiculous "9/11 conspiracy" sites that infest the Interwebs. None of them take the entire situation into account --- instead, they cherry-mine little snippets in out-of-context ways, in order to plant the idea of these so-called "questions".

You can see the raft of mis- and dis-information those sites spew by reading what people (who, after visiting those sites, come away with) and post here.

reply to post by weedwhacker


Yup, that's the picture. Now I don't know alot about planes and all, but if that is a wheel in the foreground of the pic, should it not be larger than a 5 gallon bucket? Not arguing, just asking, because I have no idea. Just seems to me if the plane was that large it'd have bigger tires and wheels. I'd really ike to know.

reply to post by network dude


It would be very helpful if you could come visit, then. WIth your expertise in security cameras, and knowledge.

Walking around the Pentagon, I (and anyone) can see whatever cameras are actually mounted and overtly on display. (SO, and that are hidden? Don't know, of course).

However, many signs are posted that prohibit photography....by the casual visitor.

I can describe what I've seen, though. The "goose-neck" mounted cameras (is that a good term to use?) are located at each corner, and at least ONE in the middle of each side. SO, total TEN right there. BUT, where are they aimed??? Covered with the black plastic dome, so can't tell.

Now, various entry points, guard gates and such? More cameras. The Metro/Bus station? More cameras. Of course, many many many (as just mentioned) were certainly no where near able to view the west wall that was hit.

SO, can you tell us the field of view, in most installations?

Also, the purpose, vis-a-vis at the Pentagon? Certainly, compared to a retail store (like WalMart) they don't have the same concerns, in regards to why there is a camera, do they? I mean, the Pentagon has its own, constant, Police force there patrolling. Cameras at a WalMart are probably more for liability (AKA, lawsuits) from the public, than for "security"....except, of course, when they're specifically designed to prevent theft, and things "walking out the door" with the five-fingered discount.

Finally, the amount of data storage capacity, and therefore the frames per second, etc. Varies widely, yes?