The Islamization Of America Is Upon Us

reply to post by b0sanac


Yes to your kind, but those outside your Islamic believes are not part of that affections.

That means you as born into Islam already has been indoctrinated into their laws, and expected to follow them as is not other laws for you.

reply to post by marg6043


Okay, you really think so?

well let me ask you, if I was already indoctrinated, and "radical" as you claim,
why am I living in the west? Why did my parents go through the effort to bring me here many years ago?
why am I sitting here discussing this topic rather than being out killing "infidels".

Dont spread that BS to me please, I know and I remember what I was taught, I was never taught to judge others, I was taught that violence is NEVER the answer, I was taught tolerance, love and respect of others and their beliefs.

By no means was I taught to whole-heartedly hate everyone who is not muslim. US or otherwise.
I think a good reason why the M.E hates the US is because they are over there killing thousands of innocents and tearing countries apart in a so called "war on terror".

I know what I was taught, I remember it all to this day. You dont need to give me your interpretation of my own religion.

I tolerate what another chooses to do. Be it religion, abortion, gay marriage etc. Though it does not mean that you let someone take control of you.

reply to post by b0sanac


The way to spread the Christian gospel worldwide is to move to other countries, convert some, breed more and thereby eventually fill society. Islam is the same, and does the same.
The difference is that I can't recall a Christian country that kills you, stones you or stops Muslims practicing. But I can name many Muslim countries that stop Christians practicing.
It's an interesting observation

Originally posted by daggyz
The difference is that I can't recall a Christian country that kills you, stones you or stops Muslims practicing. But I can name many Muslim countries that stop Christians practicing.

Islam needs more tolerance, not more mosques

One has to wonder how long the U.S. will continue to tip toe around its relationship with Islam and Muslims.

During the last few centuries, fundamentalist Christians have, for the most part, removed overt violence from their approach to the rest of the world.

At the same time, however, Muslim fundamentalists have increased their use of violence in both rhetoric and action, while moderate Muslims are rarely heard, either because of fear of or sympathy with their fundamentalist brethren.

The responses by much of the world during the past few decades to this increased level of violence have been to attempt to assuage Muslim terrorism by giving its fundamentalist perpetrators what they want. The general approach of many U.S. politicians has followed suit. Acting in this manner is like trying to extinguish a fire by throwing wood on it.

Actually, our politicians need to stop making excuses for the violence fundamentalist Islam supports

newsweek.washingtonpost.com...

reply to post by Miraj


The process of islamification involves making it exempt from criticism and debate. As we can see from the riots back when the cartoons depicting muhammed were shown, or the demonstrations and threats when that pastor advocated a burn the koran day. The president of indonesia himself had the gall to proclaim that they were threatening world peace with their criticism!

So, what do we do? Stage demonstrations and talks of our own. Debate the pitfalls of islam where people can hear it. Critise islam in a slightly less extreme manner - like, say, use a koran as a bookstop day? Most of all, never give into their infantile threat displays. Deep down they know it is really just a bluff to intimidate you. The weaker party must always bluff. But will we fall for it?

I take solace in history…America has survived xenophobic and bigoted lunatics before and we will survive it again…

The bigots and hate-mongers will return to beneath the rocks from whence they came…History has shown us this..

Like when people murdered Catholics in the streets in the 19th century…

Anti-Catholic animus in the United States reached a peak in the nineteenth century when the Protestant population became alarmed by the influx of Catholic immigrants. Some American Protestants, having an increased interest in prophecies regarding the end of time, claimed that the Catholic Church was the Whore of Babylon in the Book of Revelation. The resulting "nativist" movement, which achieved prominence in the 1840s, was whipped into a frenzy of anti-Catholicism that led to mob violence, the burning of Catholic property, and the killing of Catholics.This violence was fed by claims that Catholics were destroying the culture of the United States.

en.wikipedia.org...

Or when John F. Kennedy was elected…

The issue persisted throughout the campaign. As in 1928, bigots and extremists on the right continued to issue warnings that the Pope would be governing America if Kennedy were elected. Anti-Catholic tracts were distributed to millions of homes, along with radio and TV attacks and countless mailings. Kennedy won by the barest of margins…

books.google.com...=onepage&q=catholic%20discrimi nation%20kennedy&f=false

reply to post by maybereal11


FBI Agents Cleared in Shooting Death of Muslim Leader

The FBI agents who shot and killed radical Muslim imam Luqman Ameen Abdullah broke no laws and will not face any charges, Michigan Attorney General Mike Cox announced today.

The shooting took place on Oct. 28, 2009, when the FBI raided a warehouse in Dearborn, Mich., and attempted to arrest Abdullah and four others on multiple federal criminal charges, including conspiracy to receive and sell stolen property, mail fraud and illegal possession of firearms and body armor.

The head of a Detroit mosque, Abdullah, 53, was a leader of a national radical fundamentalist Sunni group whose mission is to create an Islamic state governed by Shariah law, according to federal court filings. The documents also said Abdullah preached anti-government violence and called on his followers to conduct an offensive jihad.

The night before the raid, Abdullah allegedly said he would resist even if "12,000 agents" came for him.

"We are going to have to fight," the imam allegedly said. "If they are coming to get me, I'll just strap a bomb and blow up everybody."

Some Muslim leaders have questioned whether the agents used excessive force.

www.aolnews.com...

reply to post by maybereal11


Women caned in Indonesia for selling food during Ramadan

BANDA ACEH, Friday 1 October 2010 (AFP) - Two women were caned in Indonesia's staunchly Muslim Aceh province on Friday for selling food during the fasting hours of Ramadan, an official said.

Hundreds of people gathered to watch as Murni Amris, 27, received three lashes and Rukiah Abdullah, 22, received two at a mosque in the city of Jantho, southeast of the provincial capital Banda Aceh.

"The two women were found selling rice in a stall at noon during Ramadan. The sharia forbids selling food during fasting hours at Ramadan," Aceh sharia police head Marzuki Abdullah said.

Aceh, on the northern tip of Sumatra island, is one of several areas of Muslim-majority Indonesia where Islamic sharia laws have been adopted.

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Originally posted by ollncasino
reply to post by maybereal11

 

FBI Agents Cleared in Shooting Death of Muslim Leader

The FBI agents who shot and killed radical Muslim imam Luqman Ameen Abdullah broke no laws and will not face any charges, Michigan Attorney General Mike Cox announced today.

The shooting took place on Oct. 28, 2009, when the FBI raided a warehouse in Dearborn, Mich., and attempted to arrest Abdullah and four others on multiple federal criminal charges, including conspiracy to receive and sell stolen property, mail fraud and illegal possession of firearms and body armor.

An what you don't state...This was a criminal investigation "Stolen Property"...not terrorist. This was an American Born, Black Panther radical.

Next I expect you to explain how "Mohammed Ali" is planning to bomb the pentagon...he sure has a Muslim sounding name!

Same garbage ...over and over...from you.

Originally posted by maybereal11
An what you don't state...This was a criminal investigation "Stolen Property"...not terrorist. This was an American Born, Black Panther radical.

When will your apoligises and blatant spin for Islamic radicals stop?

When they have destroyed America?

reply to post by maybereal11


Criticism of Islam Is New Front in PC War, Media Expert Says

www.foxnews.com...

Professor: Chanting 'USA' at Events Insensitive to Muslims

www.stoptheaclu.com...

reply to post by daggyz


Perhaps so. The goal of any religion is to expand is it not. However I was not brought here to "outbreed" the population. I was brought here because I would have a better life and better opportunities here than in my home country.

What homegrown Muslim threats does the USA and the West in general face?

(1) The USA

Muslim radicalisation gains momentum in US

Long feared by US intelligence, Muslim radicalisation is gaining momentum in the United States, which has had a spate of cases featuring youths recruited and trained overseas for jihad.

The latest case - five US nationals arrested in Pakistan on Wednesday on suspicion of plotting an attack - deepened concern that militant Islamist groups are successfully enlisting potential attackers inside the United States.

Fourteen Somali-American youths were charged in Minnesota with conspiracy to support terrorism and other offenses after allegedly receiving military training in Somalia, and joining in a bitter civil war.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Terrorist plots becoming harder to detect warns US

Robert Mueller, the director of the FBI, warned

"Recent investigations reveal that the group has adapted its strategy for conducting attacks", he said, with "more emphasis on finding recruits or trainees from the West to play key roles."

About two dozen Americans have been arrested on terrorism charges since 2009.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Times Square bomber says US should 'brace themselves' for war as he receives life sentence

Judge Cedarbaum, 81, interrupted Mr Shahzad's pre-sentence statement to ask whether he had not sworn allegiance to the US when he became a citizen last year.

"I did swear but I did not mean it," Shahzad said. "So you took a false oath," the judge replied.

www.telegraph.co.uk... tence.html

(2) Germany

US drone strike kills five 'German militants' in Pakistan

At least 70 Germans have undergone paramilitary training in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and about a third have returned to Germany.

The Federal Criminal Police Office, said as many as 220 people have travelled from Germany to Pakistan and Afghanistan for paramilitary training, and at least 70 have received it.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

(3) The UK

Britons training in Pakistan for UK terror attacks

At least 20 Britons are undergoing terrorist training in Pakistan to launch Mumbai-style shootings and suicide attacks in Britain, intelligence sources have told The Daily Telegraph.

They are being trained to use firearms as well as explosives so that they can launch random shooting sprees in the UK, Western intelligence sources said.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

reply to post by ollncasino


Eight Britons 'trained in Pakistan for European terror strikes'

Up to eight Britons were trained at Al Qaeda terror camps for the threatened Mumbai-style commando attacks in the UK, France and Germany, intelligence officials revealed yesterday.

The men are part of a force called the Islamic Army of Great Britain who trained in Pakistan’s tribal areas, near the Afghan border.

At least three are believed to have returned to Britain, underpinning fears of a wave of attacks on the UK’s transport system and at high profile sites in London.

According to officials in Pakistan, Britain asked them to monitor the movements of eight UK citizens who travelled to Waziristan in July to meet with members of the extremist group Jamaat-i-Islami.

Telephone calls and text messages sent by the men to numbers in Britain, Dubai and elsewhere in Europe are said to have been monitored by both the Americans and GCHQ at Cheltenham.

It was these calls that enabled U.S. unmanned drones to launch missile strikes against militant training camps last month.

One strike is reported to have killed a Briton using the name Abdul Jabbar, said to have been chosen to lead the UK attacks.


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I have skimmed through this thread and I have arrived to the conclusion that while there are many good Muslims living in America and across Europe...there are also legitimate threats posed by allowing foreigners of cultures that do not adhere to the customs and laws of western nations. They may come to the United States as refugees, or as students, and are taught to approach westerners in a certain manner....nonetheless it does not mean that they have forgotten the customs and practices of their native Islamic countries. This can be reviewed by the constant attempt made by Muslim groups in Europe to undermine court procedure and legislation in hopes of imposing Sharia law.

I take no issue with foreigners of any nation that come here and ASSIMILATE to the customs and laws of the country in which they reside, but when they don't...that's where problems begin.

Good for France I say...for reinforcing their culture and policies.

Islam is moving into countries.

America and Britain. Are terrorists moving in? Yes!

Why are these countries putting up with this?

New York Police Department Report

Radicalization in the West:The Homegrown Threat

Page 69 of the report:

"New York City has a diverse Muslim population of between 600,000 and 750,000 within a population of about 8 ½ million--about 40% of whom are foreign-born.

Unfortunately, the City’s Muslim communities have been permeated by extremists who have and continue to sow the seeds of radicalization. Muslim communities are often more vulnerable to the radicals’ agenda—an agenda that uses Islam as the center stage for spreading and justifying extremist views.

Radicalization is indiscriminate and those attracted to it include New York City citizens from all walks of life, ranging from university students, engineers, business owners, teachers, lawyers, cab drivers to construction workers."

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Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by Alxandro

 

Do you enjoy spreading fear around like manure?

I thought ATS was about denying ignorance, not promoting it like you are?

manure only spreads when people step in it and keep walking!

the "spread" of Islam is facilitated only by the Salami-JiHADS, the HAM-ass, and the HELLz-bullies!

or is it all an old Jewish trick? after all MANY "Islamic" "leaders" are Jewish!

and, many "Islamic" nations have Jewish controlled central banks!

Ahmadinejad:

www.wnd.com...

www.israelnationalnews.com...

and,

Hebrew scholars may have been the "originators" of Islam and "Christianity"!
they may have written the Qur'an and the Bible in the "dark ages".. to create control without military actions.
if true, its worked for 1500 years or so!

Islam needs more tolerance, not more mosques

Christianity needs more Christians, not more "Christians". Surely you cannot sit there and tout your "Christianity" while you judge and segregate a large group of his children? Guess you've never actually read the Bible -- a typical trait of "Christians".

During the last few centuries, fundamentalist Christians have, for the most part, removed overt violence from their approach to the rest of the world.

Tell that to World War II. I mean, that's not a big deal though, of course. We learned our lesson, we know it's wrong to invade countries to spread our ideas around and support our goals for corporatocracy, right, Iraq? America knows better than mid-century Germany, right? We know, we're better. "Christian" countries for the win!

At the same time, however, Muslim fundamentalists have increased their use of violence in both rhetoric and action, while moderate Muslims are rarely heard, either because of fear of or sympathy with their fundamentalist brethren.

Maybe if these "Christian" countries would stop impeding on their beliefs and attacking their ideas, then boasting their own ideas, none of this would've ever happened. Pride has no repercussions, it's only one of the seven deadly sins.

The responses by much of the world during the past few decades to this increased level of violence have been to attempt to assuage Muslim terrorism by giving its fundamentalist perpetrators what they want. The general approach of many U.S. politicians has followed suit. Acting in this manner is like trying to extinguish a fire by throwing wood on it.

It's actually extremely easy to suffocate a fire with wood, I guess if people don't know the basic rules of combustion it could be hard... so... let's blame the wood!

Actually, our politicians need to stop making excuses for the violence fundamentalist Islam supports

Actually, our politicians need to stop pretending this would be an issue if we stopped constantly judging them and touting our American Pride over their way of living.