Why are AE911Truth & Wikipedia Censoring Information about Dr. Judy Wood?

originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
a reply to: AgarthaSeed

So I take it you assume POINT 1 is true. In which case, how would this destruction take place hundreds of feet in the air?

That only suggests that either plane impact, explosion or thermite wouldn't have caused the building to collapse, but rather caused all the building materials to disintegrate or dustify.
Which brings us back to what Dr. Wood is suggesting.

Can you explain what you mean by this?

Yes I consider POINT 1 to be true - this is obvious.

"...how would this destruction take place hundreds of feet in the air?"

OK! Now we are getting somewhere! These are the type of questions we should be asking! Bravo!

"That only suggests that either plane impact, explosion or thermite wouldn't have caused the building to collapse, but rather caused all the building materials to disintegrate or dustify."

No not at all... because we know for facts that plane impacts, and themite, etc can not cause HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TONNES OF STEEL to turn to dust - simply unquestionably impossible. The weapon/mechanism that had to have caused that (as evidenced clearly by what truly did happen to the towers) had to have been somehow capable of turning HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TONNES OF STEEL to turn to dust in a relatively short period of time.

The major mistake most people make at this point is the cling to the tragically false assumption that the ONLY possible options to select from are those things that we already know to exist... those things which are KNOWN and in the public domain.

You might not be aware of what BLACK OPs are... a BLACK OP is where Billions of dollars are spent developing ABOVE TOP SECRET goodies (go figure!! LOL). You might not be away that on Sept. 10 (!!!!) 2001, Donald Rumsfeld admitted publically that 2.3 TRILLION....... YES THAT IS A FRIGGIN' "T"!!!!!!!!!!!!!! somehow went "missing" from the Pentagon budget. Well, would you like to hazard a guess about where some of the money went? The point being, that THERE IS A MYRIAD OF 'goodies' THAT THE PUBLIC IS UNAWARE OF, so don't fall into the trap of assuming we must select only from what we now KNOW to exist. BIG MISTAKE boys!

Back to Judy Wood.... yes she has explanations which clearly answer these questions. Sit thru one of her presentations and she explains it eloquently. Much better than I could.

a reply to: epowell

Haha epowell, you and I are in agreeance. I don't know if you read my post wrong but it was meant to be a reply to samkent.

a reply to: epowell

somehow capable of turning HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TONNES OF STEEL to turn to dust in a relatively short period of time.

So what was that we shipped off to China that got the conspiracy crowd in an uproar?

The major mistake most people make at this point is the cling to the tragically false assumption that the ONLY possible options to select from are those things that we already know to exist...

Mistake ?? You have to stay in the real world.
Example:
A car is found crashed into a tree.
Is it likely the tree grew in an instant in the cars path ?
Is it likely a pressure wave forced the car off the road?
Is it likely a mentalist forced the driver to turn the wheel?

The point is you have to get back to the real world.
Judy Woods is unable to describe the size/location/power source for the weapon.
She might as well say it was magic based on what she knows.

Donald Rumsfeld admitted publically that 2.3 TRILLION....

You really are behind the curve on 911.

yes she has explanations which clearly answer these questions. Sit thru one of her presentations and she explains it eloquently. Much better than I could.

Please tell us what the power source was.
At one point she claimed it was from a hurricane off the coast.
Why did the building break down at the impact points? Not above or below.

Judy Woods is a charlatan.
:a person who falsely pretends to know or be something in order to deceive people
ne making usually showy pretenses to knowledge or ability
:someone who cheats people by claiming to have special knowledge or abilities

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Nochzwei

Mythical weapon? Not so much. I can build one www.scribd.com...

Here's a video from the guy claiming he's reduced gravity.

Notice the burning candle on the top.
I wonder why the weight is reduced (by grams) over the course of an hour ???

People will believe anything on YT.

the video is only 20 mins long and the machine runs for approx 15 mins in which 4 kilograms are nullified. do your math again.

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: epowell

somehow capable of turning HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TONNES OF STEEL to turn to dust in a relatively short period of time.

So what was that we shipped off to China that got the conspiracy crowd in an uproar?

The major mistake most people make at this point is the cling to the tragically false assumption that the ONLY possible options to select from are those things that we already know to exist...

Mistake ?? You have to stay in the real world.
Example:
A car is found crashed into a tree.
Is it likely the tree grew in an instant in the cars path ?
Is it likely a pressure wave forced the car off the road?
Is it likely a mentalist forced the driver to turn the wheel?

The point is you have to get back to the real world.
Judy Woods is unable to describe the size/location/power source for the weapon.
She might as well say it was magic based on what she knows.

Donald Rumsfeld admitted publically that 2.3 TRILLION....

You really are behind the curve on 911.

yes she has explanations which clearly answer these questions. Sit thru one of her presentations and she explains it eloquently. Much better than I could.

Please tell us what the power source was.
At one point she claimed it was from a hurricane off the coast.
Why did the building break down at the impact points? Not above or below.


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What was shipped off to China? ...yes I heard that story also. But 'hearing stories' proves nothing. Factually verifiable evidence DOES. If you are suggesting metal was shipped to China - then please offer up some evidence.

Yes, I entirely agree with your suggestion to stay in the REAL WORLD... let's do that! So let's start with BLACK OPs --- they exist! Their existence proves the STRONG LIKELIHOOD that powerful technologies exist that the man on the street has never heard about. Notice I did not say that BLACK OPs "prove" that secret technologies exist, but the likelihood is SO STRONG it borders on UNQUESTIONABILITY. For example, how many people, before Hiroshima, were aware that Nukes existed?

If you want to know about the POWER SOURCE for this weapon, then I would say that we would then be moving into HIGHLY INTERESTING TERRITORY >>> GLAD YOU ASKED!!!!

...otherwise, please - for now let's just stay focused on the 3 points I brought up... once we are all clear about those things we can move on to other things like "impact points", "power source"... etc. One thing at a time, be patient - first let's get really clear about the fundamentals, OK.

edit on 8-8-2016 by epowell because: (no reason given)

a reply to: Nochzwei

do your math again.

OK I got my math wrong.
But he's still another nut job with a fake machine.

originally posted by: epowell
OK, I have a little time, changed my mind, I will give a blanket reply to those still in question of Dr. Woods research.

Again... what I notice from Judy Wood 'doubters' is that they are never able to refute the core fundamental evidence that Judy presents. So let's take 3 core pieces of evidence and see if some doubters can refute:

POINT 1) If the towers ( WTC 1 and 2) were "brought down" by bombs or planes then the entire weight of the buildings 500,000TONS EACH would have come crashing down in less than 12 seconds.

TRUE or FALSE?

2) Assuming POINT 1 is true, then there should have been a corresponding seismic signal.

TRUE or FALSE?

3) Assuming POINT 1 is true, then there should have been a rubble pile higher than 1 or 2 floors tall.

TRUE or FALSE?

4) Assuming POINT 1 is true, then the "Bathtub" (retaining wall holding back the Hudson River) would have surely been damaged and NYC would have been flooded.

TRUE or FALSE?

OK, nobody is attempting to refute any of these points - so therefore I think we can now all agree that THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY THAT PLANES OR THERMITE COULD HAVE CAUSED THE TOWERS TO GO AWAY, correct? --- or does anyone still want to try to refute these 3 points?

1. seismic signal DID NOT correspond to the weight of the towers (by a LONG shot!)
2. the rubble pile was MANY TIMES smaller than what would be expected from a "controlled demo", or building "collapse due to fire"
3. NYC was NOT flooded therefore the Bathtub was not cracked - which it would have been if bombs/planes had been the cause

If nobody wants to (is able to) try to refute these obvious basic points then we can proceed further in our analysis of the fundamental truths regarding what really happened on 911.

a reply to: epowell

I'd love to proceed further into this discussion! Not nearly enough people pay attention to these facts, so this is a rare occasion and I look forward to exploring this.

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originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: epowell

somehow capable of turning HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TONNES OF STEEL to turn to dust in a relatively short period of time.

So what was that we shipped off to China that got the conspiracy crowd in an uproar?

The major mistake most people make at this point is the cling to the tragically false assumption that the ONLY possible options to select from are those things that we already know to exist...

Mistake ?? You have to stay in the real world.
Example:
A car is found crashed into a tree.
Is it likely the tree grew in an instant in the cars path ?
Is it likely a pressure wave forced the car off the road?
Is it likely a mentalist forced the driver to turn the wheel?

The point is you have to get back to the real world.
Judy Woods is unable to describe the size/location/power source for the weapon.
She might as well say it was magic based on what she knows.

Donald Rumsfeld admitted publically that 2.3 TRILLION....

You really are behind the curve on 911.

yes she has explanations which clearly answer these questions. Sit thru one of her presentations and she explains it eloquently. Much better than I could.

Please tell us what the power source was.
At one point she claimed it was from a hurricane off the coast.
Why did the building break down at the impact points? Not above or below.

What was shipped off to China? ...yes I heard that story also. But 'hearing stories' proves nothing. Factually verifiable evidence DOES. If you are suggesting metal was shipped to China - then please offer up some evidence.

Yes, I entirely agree with your suggestion to stay in the REAL WORLD... let's do that! So let's start with BLACK OPs --- they exist! Their existence proves the STRONG LIKELIHOOD that powerful technologies exist that the man on the street has never heard about. Notice I did not say that BLACK OPs "prove" that secret technologies exist, but the likelihood is SO STRONG it borders on UNQUESTIONABILITY. For example, how many people, before Hiroshima, were aware that Nukes existed?

If you want to know about the POWER SOURCE for this weapon, then I would say that we would then be moving into HIGHLY INTERESTING TERRITORY >>> GLAD YOU ASKED!!!!

...otherwise, please - for now let's just stay focused on the 3 points I brought up... once we are all clear about those things we can move on to other things like "impact points", "power source"... etc. One thing at a time, be patient - first let's get really clear about the fundamentals, OK.

originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
a reply to: epowell

I'd love to proceed further into this discussion! Not nearly enough people pay attention to these facts, so this is a rare occasion and I look forward to exploring this.

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Let's wait til tomorrow - give people a chance to refute... but it is pretty damn hard to dispute basic provable facts, so I don't think they will say much >>>
>>> next we can begin to explore ideas concerning what could have happened... ie. If we can prove that the there was not much left of the MATERIAL MASS of the buildings left at the time of "collapse" (wrong word), then what could have happened to that MASS?

What are the possibilities?

a reply to: epowell

What was shipped off to China? ...yes I heard that story also. But 'hearing stories' proves nothing. Factually verifiable evidence DOES. If you are suggesting metal was shipped to China - then please offer up some evidence.

Doesn't the same rules apply to space beams?
You are aware the Judy Woods lost her job because of her beliefs?
So her income comes from books and meeter greeter at Walmart.

originally posted by: epowell
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TONNES OF STEEL to turn to dust - simply unquestionably impossible.

How about you first show "HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TONNES OF STEEL " turning to dust....

How was all that steel dust removed?

had to have been somehow capable of turning HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TONNES OF STEEL to turn to dust in a relatively short period of time.

Still zero evidence that occurred....

] You might not be away that on Sept. 10 (!!!!) 2001, Donald Rumsfeld admitted publically that 2.3 TRILLION....... YES THAT IS A FRIGGIN' "T"!!!!!!!!!!!!!! somehow went "missing" from the Pentagon budget.

Oh dear, he never said that at all, so why claim he did? How about you show the exact statement he made....

originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
Misdirection here. Intentionally or unintentionally only you, Samkent, knows your intentions.

Let's start with this : The term "dustify" does NOT imply vaporization. Molecular disassociation and vaporization are in fact two different phenomena.

What happens to molecular iron in air? Do you know? It's VERY dramatic.

Again, the spire. Solid steel turning to dust within seconds. Right there for anyone to see.

It's got dust on it, it falls out from under it. If you look at the video frame by frame, you can see the spire for about three frames, it's very blurry due to slow shutter speed on the video.

Now if you want to use the fact that a tremendous amount of energy would be needed to change phases, you're only supporting Dr. Wood's evidence.
Because yes, a massive amount of energy would be needed for molecular dissociation. Not nearly enough energy from jet fuel fires or thermite, but perhaps a directed energy weapon would have the capability to do so.

No one's claiming (except truthers) that the steel was turned to dust. If you looked at ground zero pictures, it's a huge jumble of steel in the bottom of the pit. No directed energy weapon causes molecular dissociation. But you can calculate the energy it would require, and I'd LOVE to see you get that power supply in a satellite.

She never tries to speculate on the specifics of what exactly was used. Because if the technology is secret, we wouldn't know the specifics!

And if it doesn't exist, she won't be able to tell you either!

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Nochzwei

do your math again.

OK I got my math wrong.
But he's still another nut job with a fake machine.

why do you call it fake. are you blind?

a reply to: Nochzwei

why do you call it fake. are you blind?

Because YT is full of faked videos.
I guess you you believe in those free energy and anti gravity videos.
If you believe everything you see on the internet you need a reality check.

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Nochzwei

why do you call it fake. are you blind?

Because YT is full of faked videos.
I guess you you believe in those free energy and anti gravity videos.
If you believe everything you see on the internet you need a reality check.

that video is genuine anti gravity. can you prove it is fake?

originally posted by: Nochzwei
that video is genuine anti gravity. can you prove it is fake?

Those making the silly claim have to prove that claim.... that is how things work in the real world!

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: epowell

What was shipped off to China? ...yes I heard that story also. But 'hearing stories' proves nothing. Factually verifiable evidence DOES. If you are suggesting metal was shipped to China - then please offer up some evidence.

Doesn't the same rules apply to space beams?
You are aware the Judy Woods lost her job because of her beliefs?
So her income comes from books and meeter greeter at Walmart.

Right now, LISTEN UP EVERYONE, I will illustrate a point for everyone here to take note of. Samkent just perfectly demonstrated the most common technique used by people trying to win a debate when they are not able to do it with truth and factual evidence --- this technique almost invariably involves ATTEMPTING TO DIVERT THE FOCUS OF THE DISCUSSION AWAY FROM DISCUSSION OF THE MOST BASIC AND MOST INCRIMINATING EVIDENCE.

Notice here that Samkent says absolutely nothing regarding the 3 basic points of evidence we are currently discussion:
1) LACK OF APPROPRIATE SEISMIC SIGNAL (which "should have" corresponded to 500,000 TONNES of weight of one single tower.
2) LACK OF APPROPRIATE DEBRIS PILE (which "should have" corresponded to what would 'normally' remain after the 'collapse' of a 110 STORY BUILDING)
3) LACK OF APPROPRIATE DAMAGE TO THE BATHTUB (which "should have" caused NYC flooding)

The points Samkent mentions in this post have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with what happened to those buildings on 911, and that is what we are discussing - WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE BUILDINGS.

[Samkent.... Dr. Judy Wood's last name is WOOD, not "WOODS" ...LOL]

originally posted by: hellobruce
How about you first show "HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TONNES OF STEEL " turning to dust....

Take a peak at this video at 6:15 - Notice what happens to the steel columns...
www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: hellobruce
How was all that steel dust removed?

When dust disintegrates to smaller and smaller nano-sizes, it generally floats UPWARDS into the atmosphere... see this video (from 0:30) of 911 from Space... notice how an enormous amount of dust emanates from the towers into the sky...
www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: epowell You might not be aware that on Sept. 10 (!!!!) 2001, Donald Rumsfeld admitted publically that 2.3 TRILLION....... YES THAT IS A FRIGGIN' "T"!!!!!!!!!!!!!! somehow went "missing" from the Pentagon budget.

originally posted by: hellobruce
Oh dear, he never said that at all, so why claim he did? How about you show the exact statement he made....

Yes he did say that... watch this whole video OR just nip in at 0:20 and again at 1:00.
www.youtube.com...

a reply to: Bedlam

Bedlam... all due respect to you, but I can see that perhaps you are a little bit confused. Perhaps you missed my post from yesterday where I attempt to bring some clarity to this topic by stripping everything down to the fundamental core of irrefutable facts/evidence so we can all begin to agree on what is really what, and then move forward.

Therefore, for your benefit I will re-post below what I wrote yesterday, and invite you to respond - [after we get clear on the basics, then it will be appropriate to begin discussing thing further, thanks]:

"So let's take 3 core pieces of evidence and see if some doubters can refute:

POINT 1) If the towers ( WTC 1 and 2) were "brought down" by bombs or planes then the entire weight of the buildings 500,000TONS EACH would have come crashing down in less than 12 seconds.

TRUE or FALSE?

2) Assuming POINT 1 is true, then there should have been a corresponding seismic signal.

TRUE or FALSE?

3) Assuming POINT 1 is true, then there should have been a rubble pile higher than 1 or 2 floors tall.

TRUE or FALSE?

4) Assuming POINT 1 is true, then the "Bathtub" (retaining wall holding back the Hudson River) would have surely been damaged and NYC would have been flooded.

TRUE or FALSE?"