Ancient Mars

Originally posted by piotrburz

I know that most of ATS society could easily identify NASA acronym as "Never Admit Seeing Anything" but there's no cover-up evidence. We aren't capable of photographing small objects in decent quality, so there always will be a bunch of people dennying NASA explanations. We see what we want to see.

edit on 10-9-2010 by piotrburz because: (no reason given)

I will have to disagree. NASA IS hiding something but not everyone there knows what is going on. I can't prove or provide names but I do know people who work on various programs out there and they will admit to things being covered up when it comes to Mars and the Moon. I know that isn't enough for you to believe but I believe them because of their job position, who they are and I trust them as they do me which is why they tell me these things. One even said to me the best way to show something to everyone is to put in your face basically and then watch everyone deny it even though it is real.

reply to post by markygee


As I have claimed in numerous threads, with the technology available to us TODAY, we would be unable to make it to the moon and back.

And the number one reason is the amount of radiation in space past low earth orbit.

The surface of the moon itself is radioactive and we didn't start mapping that until 1999. We did not even really get into the nitty-gritty of mapping the radiation on the surface of the moon until the LRO....

I am not saying that we couldn't go or have never been to the moon, but what I am saying is that the official storyline of NASA and the moon does not add up.

The reason that I am posting this here is because I see a lot of talk on this thread about us going to Mars, "already"...
It ain't gonna happen.

When I see "official accounts" of extra-terrestrial life, my BS meter goes off like a fire whistle.
Ask yourself, "why is this coming from NASA?"
"who gains from this information being released?"
"why put so much of our country's GDP into 'going to the moon' during the 60's and then just drop it like its hot not even 20 years later?"
"Why has no other country used our 1960's technology to go back to the moon?"
"Have other country's technologies evolved since the 60's in every area except space exploration?"
"is NASA and other similar entities within other countries just a cover for the militarization of space?"

Before jumping to conclusions about extra-terrestrial life, think critically about the information.

Could all this talk of extra-terrestrial life simply be a diversion?

Originally posted by piotrburz
We aren't capable of photographing small objects in decent quality, so there always will be a bunch of people dennying NASA explanations.

Originally posted by mblahnikluver
I will have to disagree. NASA IS hiding something but not everyone there knows what is going on. I can't prove or provide names but I do know people who work on various programs out there and they will admit to things being covered up when it comes to Mars and the Moon.

You tell em Gotta love it when people come in and make statements with no facts

Lunar Orbiter 1965-1967

On a typical Lunar Orbiter mission, the photographic system provided high-resolution pictures of 4,000 square miles of the Moon's surface with enough clarity to show objects the size of a card table.

www.ssd.itt.com...

ITT Geospatial Systems is a Department of Defense Contractor. I would call a card table a small object and that was 1960's tech

Life in other planet does not exist, we are the only sheep's in the jungle. Who ever said anything about a wolf out there in the jungle must be crazy or a fruit loop. We are the only sheep in the Galaxy and in our planet, our planet is square, their is no other animals than us sheep's here on earth, ok let me get busy on my research watching my favorite program on TV, oh wait my cel phone is ringing but who ever it is I'll put him on hold I'm busy playing X-Box now.


People don't believe your eyes these are just anomalies from stupid people who believe in Extra Torrential life out there, this is not PROOF!

This is not a life form on Mars!

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This is not a coin from a civilisation on Mars, no way.

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This definitely is not a FLYING SOUCER here on Earth.

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This is not a skull of an ET, Oh! how can these people believe in such things?

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Dumb people think this is a face on mars lol is just a huge mountain thats all.

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Who will believe UFO on Mars bah ha ha ha stupid crazy people, they all Lonny.

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This is not convincing at all, their is no such things as life on Mars nor will ever be.

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WHERE IS THE EVIDANCE?

reply to post by Skyfloating


Lovely post! Thank you!

With water and methane one wonders what we will find next eh?

I haven't seen any evidence of "structures" and pay full mind to

optical illusions, never-the-less, it is all very intriguing!

S&F

Originally posted by Josephus23


I am not saying that we couldn't go or have never been to the moon...

snip

...."Why has no other country used our 1960's technology to go back to the moon?"
"Have other country's technologies evolved since the 60's in every area except space exploration?"

Now, i am not connecting the two above portions of your post. It is a possibility that I hold out on, but not one that i use in my normal, daily thinking. I believe NASA made it to the moon....but that we got pictures from a studio. I am not sure that they landed.

But you make an excellent point in questioning why no other nations have really gotten into the space business. I know it is expensive, in theory. But there are cheaper alternatives, as seen by the guy with a balloon and a camera.

The fact that it was the US and Russia, alone, that were getting all "space happy" seems to be, in itself, a conspiracy.

Originally posted by BIONICLE ALEX
People don't believe your eyes these are just anomalies from stupid people who believe in Extra Torrential life out there, this is not PROOF!

This is not a skull of an ET, Oh! how can these people believe in such things?

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/44c50098021f.jpg[/atsimg]

Sorry my believer friend, this one is an obvious hoax

People will do anything to be a "blazing star among UFO believers"
The closest thing that could possibly find a life is kepler probe, not those "researchers" from marsanomaly.com

Originally posted by UKWO1Phot
Not seen the PS5 new fill feature?

I saw it and I just used to confirm what it does.

It replaces the area that we choose with an adjacent area, resulting in repeated part of the photo.

It's good when used with backgrounds like sand or grass or sky, but not on a photo with many rocks, for example, as you can see below.

Original photo.


Photo with those large rocks near the rover, to the right, removed.


Photoshop does a good work, but you can see that it replaced the rocks with an area a little above and to the right of the removed area.

Not good enough to fool ATS members.

PS: it also uses a lot of processing power, it takes around one second to do a replacement like this on a two years old computer.

reply to post by dimburg


Okay check this out, then tell me what you think.

I'm curious, why would you think this skull is not real?

Do you think the Star Child is real?

www.greatdreams.com...

Now I see, I did looked at the link you purpose here, but then look what it says?

( Many thanks to this visitor. However, as the hoax is not admitted by its author and propagators, I have the picture in this "considered as hoaxes but not admitted hoaxes" page.)


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Yet you might be right, but either you or I will not know the truth then, cause what tells us that the human skull is not the hoax to miss lead people attention from this other pic with the ET skull.

Anyway the Vatican did admit and release their ET cemetery they have under the Vatican.

Originally posted by BIONICLE ALEX
Skeptics?

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Too small to be sure of anything, but it looks like a rock.

This is the other half that didn't came out in a early pic.

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It was dust the first time, it's still dust.

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I don't understand what you mean by posting these two photos of the Phoenix lander. What's it supposed to mean?

In the last photo their is a drawing on the flor I forgot to trace it out, tell me if you can describe what it is?

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It's the ground.

Originally posted by BIONICLE ALEX
This is not a life form on Mars!

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You're right, it's not. Unless it's a life form that looks like a rock and doesn't move in three days.

This is not a coin from a civilisation on Mars, no way.

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It doesn't look like a coin.

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Did you forgot to say something about this photo?

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And about this one too?

This photo was also discussed before, and I think it's the result of making a colour photo with one of the channels (I don't remember which one) with too few shades.

Dumb people think this is a face on mars lol is just a huge mountain thats all.
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It's a mountain, even if it looks like a face in low resolution photos.

It's like those people that look good on photos but when seen close we see that they are uglier that we thought.

Who will believe UFO on Mars bah ha ha ha stupid crazy people, they all Lonny.

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An unidentified flying object is just that. If it was a photo from the Moon, that has an almost null atmosphere, it would be different, but on Mars, known for the dust storms visible from Earth, it's not surprising.

WHERE IS THE EVIDANCE?

Evidence of what? Life?

Do you think that a photo of unmoving objects is an evidence of life? Do you think that the fact that there are things you cannot identify imply intelligent life?

Show us the evidence, I'm sure everyone will be delighted with real evidence.

But don't start shouting at everyone just because they don't think like you do.

reply to post by ArMaP


You forgot to mentioned anything about this one.



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reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan


Thank you for the critical thinking.

As I said, like you, I do not think that what we see as our trip to the moon was anything more than movie magic; however, with that being said, I do not know if we actually made it to the moon or not.

The thing that I wanted to get across to people is to always think critically about official statements, even if they gibe with your train of thought.
Actually, you should especially think critically about an issue if the official word gibes with your train of thought.

The reason that I say that, is because official storylines have a history of being outright lies.

That is why I question all of this talk about Mars and life on Mars from NASA and other MSM news outlets lately.
I am not saying that life on the red planet never existed, but what I am questioning is the motive behind releasing this information now.

Because what is being released amounts to a whole lotta nothing.

It simply leads to more speculation and gives people something to chew on for a while.

A distraction, like a chew toy for a dog.

reply to post by BIONICLE ALEX


I didn't, but it's not on Mars and this is a thread about Mars.

You're right, it's not. Unless it's a life form that looks like a rock and doesn't move in three days.

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It doesn't look like a coin.

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Did you forgot to say something about this photo?

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And about this one too?

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It's a mountain, even if it looks like a face in low resolution photos.

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I rest my case.

Originally posted by dimburg

Originally posted by BIONICLE ALEX
People don't believe your eyes these are just anomalies from stupid people who believe in Extra Torrential life out there, this is not PROOF!

This is not a skull of an ET, Oh! how can these people believe in such things?

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/44c50098021f.jpg[/atsimg]

Sorry my believer friend, this one is an obvious hoax

Looks like a hoax. Notice the left orbital is not even with the right one. Looks like the distortion you get when you look in a funny mirror. Probably altered with common software or a sculpture. Also the shape of the orbitals are oval? I have a problem with that too because the alleged grays are suppose to have oval shaped eyes someone decided to make the orbitals oval or almond shaped. This would not work with the eye balls in the socket. It is the eye lids that give them the almond shape appearance. Whomever manufactured that hoax was not thinking logical. I call shenanigans.

However BIONICLE ALEX I agree there is much to the JPL photos that cant just be dismissed. There is something to Mars TPTB are not telling us in my opinion. The face on Mars is not just a mountain and i know about the ESA altering it's latest photos on the sedona face as well as NASA. It is not because of the image of the face so much that gives it away, it is how they are altering the photos and getting caught red handed. So we wont know until an independent agency besides NASA and ESA goes to mars and sees for themselves.

As for the saucer i believe that is legit however it has nothing to do with mars or the topic. This is not about if you believe in ET or not. You are kind of all over the place in you're posts. Im also confused as to what Manhattan and the WTC towers has to do with the MARS photos? You really have not proven anything and shown me anything i have not seen a million times here.

If you are trying to convince people Aliens are a reality then you are doing it wrong

Just my 2 cents

reply to post by BIONICLE ALEX


Could you please explain what do you mean by this post?

Thanks in advance.

reply to post by Unknown Soldier


You could be right but still you and I are not 100% sure of this, all I know there is a story behind all this.

Where there was fire ashes stay behind.