BBC Correspondent says MOSSAD did 9/11 and Iran doesn't want Nukes

"I'm asking you why you're taking this BBC report seriously when you conspiracy people are ALSO saying the BBC had foreknowledge of the WTC 7 collapse, which necessarily means they're involved in the conspiracy too."

OK, let's take it real slow from the start. This is not a BBC report. This is an interview being given by a former BBC Correspondent, Alan Hart. Just a suggestion, but maybe you should get your facts straight prior to commenting on these threads. It would spare you from appearing ignorant and uninformed.

"If they're truly involved, then they're not going to tell you the truth of who was really responsible for the 9/11 attack becuase it'd mean they'd be revealign their own involvement. The whole reason why you people don't accept the 9/11 report is becuase of inconsistancies and yet you're ignoring THIS inconsistency. I'm merely asking why."

The only "inconsistency" here is that you have failed to realize that Mr. Hart no longer works for the BBC and was not speaking on behalf of the BBC during the interview. Obviously, in your haste to debunk this story, you missed this small, but rather important detail, which blows your smug assertion out of the water.

Yeah, not this crap again! Good luck on cleaning up the crap that you just walked into.

Guys.....

I believe this case is much difficult than I thought. My researches now partly lead to what FBI John O'Neil and Mick Dick had previously uncovered. O'Neil was killed and Mick Dick was removed from his duties on the orders of the head of the Justice Department’s Criminal Division Michael Chertoff. There're too many high ranking government officers involved but I need to find some more evidences before I can confidently post what I have found. In mean time, can someone help me search if there's any warrant arrest for Dominik Suter? Particularly from New York Justice Department? Or can anyone help me contact local FBI/Police to find out if Dominik Suter is still under FBI wanted list?



He's back. He has been in New York since 2008, operating new busines with some help. There's new planned attack speculated going to happen in Montreal according to one private investigator from Australia. He has posted some of his evidences with photos. But he is now under detained by FBI. I have lost his link. I'm not sure if Dominik Suter going to be involved again. I really don't know how to make of it. I will try to find it later. But right now, I'm more concern to finding more hard evidences that John O'Neil and Mick Dick have left.

Lets be logical for a second.

The CIA with all its resources would find an institute (Mossad) link in no time. The fact that they did not or did but did not publicise it smacks of collaberation.

As for dancing? I saw a lot of that on the West Bank with gift giving etc like christmas had come. And have you ever met a Mossad agent? Trust me.. They dont do dancing lol..

The bbc however are indeed a self admitting left wing socialist leaning organisation who report their left wing bias opinion rather than the news. They are crapping themselves here in the UK at the moment because they are scared of the austerity measures of the new government who have to cut public funding to reduce our deficit. So as a publically funded organisation they are doing their best to destroy the new coalition government.. They are anti conservative and anti Israel.. This report will not surprise anyone in the know but will pdroduce many rolling eyes...

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Well ............. This case is dead end. We can't do anything. There is nothing we can do. I have just found out that the 'Dancing Israelis, Urban Moving System and Dominic Suter' Case had been cleared by both US and Israel government.

What Did Israel Know in Advance of the 9/11 Attacks?

Before such issues had been fully explored, however, the investigation was shut down. Following what ABC News reported were "high-level negotiations between Israeli and U.S. government officials", a settlement was reached in the case of the five Urban Moving Systems suspects. Intense political pressure apparently had been brought to bear. The reputable Israeli daily Ha'aretz reported that by the last week of October 2001, some six weeks after the men had been detained, Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage and two unidentified "prominent New York congressmen" were lobbying heavily for their release. According to a source at ABC News close to the 20/20 report, high-profile criminal lawyer Alan Dershowitz also stepped in as a negotiator on behalf of the men to smooth out differences with the U.S. government. (Dershowitz declined to comment for this article.) And so, at the end of November 2001, for reasons that only noted they had been working in the country illegally as movers, in violation of their visas, the men were flown home to Israel.

I hate to dissappoint you, guys but this is a dead end. I'm going to do some research on future terrorist attack allegedly going to happen in Montreal which might cost 9000 lives.

reply to post by benoni


First of, it was never 2.3 trillion dollars in missing money. Here is the applicable paragraph from Rumsfeld speech on 9/10/01...

The technology revolution has transformed organizations across the private sector, but not ours, not fully, not yet. We are, as they say, tangled in our anchor chain. Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible.

DOD Acquisition and Logistics Excellence Week Kickoff—Bureaucracy to Battlefield

www.defense.gov...

Its 2.3 trillion dollars in transactions, not cash. In addition, truthers try to say that it was only announced the day before Sept 11, 2001, which is a bald faced lie. Below is a story posted on the AP, March 3, 2000.....or in other words...almost a year before Rumsfeld became SecDef.

Pentagon's finances in disarray

By JOHN M. DONNELLY The Associated Press 03/03/00 5:44 PM Eastern

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The military's money managers last year made almost $7 trillion in adjustments to their financial ledgers in an attempt to make them add up, the Pentagon's inspector general said in a report released Friday.

The Pentagon could not show receipts for $2.3 trillion of those changes, and half a trillion dollars of it was just corrections of mistakes made in earlier adjustments.

Each adjustment represents a Defense Department accountant's attempt to correct a discrepancy. The military has hundreds of computer systems to run accounts as diverse as health care, payroll and inventory. But they are not integrated, don't produce numbers up to accounting standards and fail to keep running totals of what's coming in and what's going out, Pentagon and congressional officials said

hv.greenspun.com...

If you dig further, you will find that its not even 2.3 trillion in transactions missing, but 2.3 trillion in transactions that do not have enough "documentation" to warrant the adjustments made.

The story was old news before Rumsfeld even became SecDef. It was Rumsfeld who was determined to integrate the computer systems used by the DoD to better streamline the accounting process and better balance the books. And yet, it doesnt stop truthers from lying about the reality behind the story.

Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by LarryLove

 

No, there are not. There is a lot of baseless innuendo deeply rooted in anti-semitism, but no legitimate questions.

Pointing out the obvious anti-semitism in the OP is NOT derailing the thread.

But equating an 'anti government and policies of the State of Israel' stance with antisemitism certainly is, by derailing the thread with a straw man. On the up side, you have clearly identified your own particular agenda and your commentary may now be considered in that precisely that context.

Thanks for that,

reply to post by Prince Of Darkness


interesting correlations made between MOSSAD and their alleged intentions. reminds me of wag the dog.

are there those in positions who can "steer the road" while many think of civilization as a vessel/ship/vehicle while people are focussed more on the helm rather than who is paving the road in front? yes, i believe so.

do religious undertones and aspects of neuro linguistic programming enter into the frey? yes, i believe so.

MOSSAD and MOSes. When Moses asked who was sending him, the response is written as "I AM" and/or "I am that I am".

alpha bet ... alphabet

911 is an emergency phone call. trinity has connotations to god, but also means 3.
2+0+0+1=3

A=1 H=8
B =2 I=9
C=3 J=10
D=4 K=11
E=5 L=12
F=6 M=13
G=7

therefore "I AM" could be equated to the alphabet and interpreted as: "9113 / 911 trinity" aka:
September Eleventh, 2001

i'm not looking for others to blame for that days events. if i have to pick sides, i would pick sides with the firefighters, and be against all those who either passively or aggressively participated in the events leading up to a day where hundreds of firefighters became collateral damage for whatever means and purposes.

religious undertones? who was the priest that firefighters carried off? what is the name of the top angel?(A: Michael) what is the end of days also called? (A: Judgment day)

who was the name of the priest that firefighters carried off?
A: Michael Judge

_______________________________________

another thing i find interesting is the fact that:
Chaper 9 verse 11 of the Koran says the exact opposite of Chapter 11 verse 9 of the Bible/Torah


just some observations,
et

reply to post by Prince Of Darkness


The FBI releases 19 photographs of individuals believed to be the hijackers of the four airliners that crashed on September 11, 01

American Airlines Flight 11 Hijackers:
Mohamed Atta (Egyptian)
Waleed al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian)
Wail al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian)
Abdulaziz al-Omari (Saudi Arabian)
Satam al-Suqami (Saudi Arabian)

United Airlines Flight 175 Hijackers:
Marwan al-Shehhi (United Arab Emirates)
Fayez Banihammad (United Arab Emirates)
Mohand al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian)
Hamza al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian)
Ahmed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian)

American Airlines Flight 77 Hijackers:
Hani Hanjour (Saudi Arabian)
Khalid al-Mihdhar (Saudi Arabian)
Majed Moqed (Saudi Arabian)
Nawaf al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian)
Salem al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian)

United Airlines Flight 93 Hijackers:
Ziad Jarrah (Lebanese)
Ahmed al-Haznawi (Saudi Arabian)
Ahmed al-Nami (Saudi Arabian)
Saeed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian).

Nope. I don't see Mossad being involved. BBC must have hired a lunatic from MSNBC.

reply to post by Section31


Thats all good and well if you trust the FBI's press releases.

news.bbc.co.uk...

Apparently some of the hijackers that crashed planes into the wtc buildings are still alive. Never mind though I'm sure theres a good explanation. Perhaps they are cats and still have a few of their 9 lives left.

Its easy to accept the official story if you discount the anomalies and spout the official narrative. No one can say for certain who was involved but those that cling to the official story are kidding themselves.

reply to post by mattpryor


were you dancing too?
How long were you watching before it happened?

Originally posted by GoodOlDave
I'm asking you why you're taking this BBC report seriously when you conspiracy people are ALSO saying the BBC had foreknowledge of the WTC 7 collapse, which necessarily means they're involved in the conspiracy too.

It's a mistake to assume that just because the BBC reported the collapse of building 7 early, that it automatically means they are involved in 9/11.

It's most likely a situation where whoever was responsible for getting the info out to the media on building 7, released the information prematurely.

Originally posted by Titan Uranus
reply to post by Section31

 

Thats all good and well if you trust the FBI's press releases.

news.bbc.co.uk...

www.bbc.co.uk...

The BBC themselves saying that that story was wrong.

reply to post by roboe


Yea o.k. just a little mix up. carry on then.

"In an effort to make this clearer, we have made one small change to the original story. Under the FBI picture of Waleed al Shehri we have added the words "A man called Waleed Al Shehri..." to make it as clear as possible that there was confusion over the identity. The rest of the story remains as it was in the archive as a record of the situation at the time. "

Hmmmm so if thats the only change does the following statement from the original article stand?

"He acknowledges that he attended flight training school at Daytona Beach in the United States, and is indeed the same Waleed Al Shehri to whom the FBI has been referring."

If so then he is a 9/11 hijacker on the FBI list that is alive and well.

I'm still gonna consider this a little bit suspicious. But you may beleive what you wish.

reply to post by raresf

Originally posted by raresf
Mossad tried to notify American authorities off an up-coming attack but were rebuffed by the FBI, the CIA and others. What Mossad did not know was that Bush and his V.P. were planning a false flag op. Mossad did not have the airplanes, a missile for the Pentagon, weapons grade thermate, could not set the date for the War Games, give the Stand-Down Order, remove jet fighter cover from D.C. and lower the Pentagon's anti-airplane defense or lose the Pentagon's camera footage of the attack, could not put the "White Plane" over D.C. or orchestrate the cover-up or a hundred other things that only the U.S. Government could do on 911 and after. As we get nearer the truth about 911 the guilty are looking desperately to find someone, anyone to put the blame on. The Jews are an easy target, too easy. The last thing in the World Mossad would do is attack the U.S. The risk would far outway any possible gain. It would be suicidally stupid.

I agree that this was NOT a Mossad operation but I cannot rule out Mossad involvement. Would Bush be able to get (Mossad?) Israelis to dance and take photos of themselves or drive around in a white van allegedly filled with explosives until they got arrested by police?

Michael Springmann, a former head U.S. consular official in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia: CIA Ordered Visas For 15 of The 19 9/11 Hijackers in Jeddah.









How much proof else do you need that 911 was an inside job.

Hi---I'm new here and just wanted to say it's funny to see the 'anti-semite!' rant completely miss the hoop like a Shaquille Oneal free throw. It has officially passed it's sell-by date and no one is buying it anymore. Even semi-intelligent people now see it as a cheap and overplayed strategy. But I'm sure the 'hoopers' will continue to 'chuck'. Okay bad pun but i'm laughing anyway.

reply to post by EasternShadow

Originally posted by EasternShadow
Well ............. This case is dead end. We can't do anything. There is nothing we can do. I have just found out that the 'Dancing Israelis, Urban Moving System and Dominic Suter' Case had been cleared by both US and Israel government.
...I hate to dissappoint you, guys but this is a dead end. I'm going to do some research on future terrorist attack allegedly going to happen in Montreal which might cost 9000 lives.

EasternShadow - to use your logic, the whole case is a dead end because TPTB have no intention of doing anything other than keeping the truth about 9/11 swept well and truly under the carpet. We're trying to keep it alive in the hopes that something good actually comes from this criminal enterprise - mainly the overthrow of the criminal fraternity running the USA.

The alternative is more of the same but with escalating levels of violence and frequency.

reply to post by EasternShadow


One of the best parts of this site is the in depth contributions of members like you. Your link to Dominik Suter ( If it is the same individual that fled the U.S. to Israel ) is astonishing and worthy of a separate thread. Hell ! It should be brought to the attention of someone in a position to actually do something with this maggot.

reply to post by EasternShadow


I do not however agree that due to an official press release the issue of Mossad involvement is " Dead". As your link suggests this collusion on the part of certain government officials and Mossad is ongoing as of 08. Every little bit of information helps build a case for alternative explanations of the events of 9/11. The official story is so utterly bogged down in contradictions and failures to followup leads, I can only hope public pressure to seek resolution will be forthcoming.

reply to post by VitriolAndAngst


My god!
Common sense!
Standing ovation.