Obama Birth Certificate; 'Document allegedly obtained in Kenya sent to every member of Congress'

So strange that every dang form for anything I have had to fill out in my lifetime wanted to know my birth place and wanted a copy of my birth certificate. So this is not required when a person runs for President of the United States? Fry me for an oyster!!!!!!

Originally posted by Aristophrenia
what is less well accepted is the fact that because he is black people can not accept that he was born in the US and must be from some African country - racism at its most disgusting.

I don't recall anyone claiming Jesse Jackson was born in Africa. Nor were people screaming from the hills that Rice had to be Ethiopian. Nor Powell....nor Steele, etc.

It may be bunk. It may have a grain of truth to it.

None of it has to do with him being black.

When he was Senator, there were a few - possibly in error - publications that ran stories highlighting him as a Kenyan-born Chicago Senator. Showing his dramatic rise to politics from a shack, etc. Nobody noticed, nor cared, because you don't have to be a natural-born citizen to be a Senator.

reply to post by getreadyalready


I don't know. Hillary is also supported by the Mafia Cabal, so perhaps there was a line she was not allowed to cross - ie. by exposing whatever it is he is hiding. Perhaps it was all part of the plan.

Whatever the truth is, it seems basic common sense that he's hiding something big - and I still don't understand how the largest part of the American public can accept that.

That degree of apathy and complacency is incomprehensible - and scary to me.

Originally posted by Aristophrenia
Birth certificates are not kept at the hospital.

Thats it right there - done and dusted - in every country on earth the records are kept externally.

Sooooo - this guy is a complete idiot - as soon as you r read the Orly - run for the hills.

That's quite a statement. Have you checked this out with every country on earth?

Originally posted by RightyRight
Can you or anyone show us what a currently issued Hawaiian birth certificate should look like?

very easy
static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com...

reply to post by getreadyalready


I think the question we should ask ourselves is who is in charge?it surely isn't the clintons.And this politically correct word that i hear thrown around alot" Transparency"just another way of saying are we going to lie or not.It's so messed up!

This is as pathetic as the 9/11 threads.
The "explainations" of why neither Hillary or McCain blew the whistle are getting more and more outlandish.
What next, the Reptilians are behind it?
Jeeez, grow uo, Obama is an American, was born in hawaii and is President.
Better luck next election righties!

Originally posted by Gregarious
reply to post by snowen20

 

Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds coming from someone who has your statements on his site? Never give up? We ALL need just ONE judge who is not a fraud, just ONE to nullify everything ever said or done by this Kenyan, as president or senator, or lying Chicago gangster Nephilim. Sure, everyone SUSPECTS he is a fraud, but it has never been publically proven. Hey, he is a great liar, just like his mentor Adolph. Sure, he's only a puppet on someone elses' strings. But he is the embodiment of evil. Looks good, is really really bad...

Exactly. All it will take is just one Judge to rule that the evidence to be disclosed. That can happen, and if people keep persisting iit is much more likely to be the case. Earlier I was reading through some of those cases which have been dismissed, and even as that list grows longer, the cause for suspicion of judicial collusion grows greater. Now, there are people starting to challenge the Judges rulings.

I love those people who are being brave enough to fight this in the Courts. They are taking a difficult and potentially very dangerous path. They deserve as much support as they can get, imo.

reply to post by OldDragger



The most salient point for me is not even whether he is American, although of course that is extremely important. It is the fact that he is hiding the details of his birth certificate and everything about his past from the American public, whom he is supposed to serve and who are his employer and who pay his wages.

Can you give any good reasons why that might be the case?


[edit on 7-9-2010 by wcitizen]

reply to post by OldDragger


Well, my friend, the truth is outlandish. It is so outlandish that many people still don't see it and don't believe it's true...so they call pathetic those who do have some idea of the huge fraud and con which is going on.

Originally posted by Silcone Synapse
Someone could write a great spy type novel on something like this IMO.

How about this for a novel ...

Osama Bin Laden the CIA asset died. Obama another CIA asset replaced him. His role as Osama was to continue perpetrating the terrorist myth.

Obama's name is just another September Clue, and he is part of a greater intelligence operation. His past is sealed up for operational security.

This anti-operation is using Obama to frame the corrupt corporation we know as the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. The ace in the hole is revealing that Obama is Osama. Leverage to frame the criminals who perpetrated all the lies, theft, and deception for decades. Grab them by the nuts, so to speak.

If there is teeth to this birther issue, then it will come out precisely when they want it to.

Obamas job is to bankrupt the corporation, prove the presidency illegitimate, and the government who knowingly allowed him to serve. When it fails, the Constitutional Republic can be restored and lawfully returned to the people.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by Arbitrageur
I'd like to know specifically where Obama was born, which I know for all the recent presidents with the exception of Obama.

Barack Obama - 44th President: 2008-

en.wikipedia.org...

Obama was born August 4, 1961, at Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. His mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was born in Wichita, Kansas, of mostly English, but also some German, descent.[7][8][9] His father, Barack Obama, Sr., was a Luo from Nyang’oma Kogelo, Nyanza Province, Kenya.

There.

Thanks, but you didn't pay attention to my post about Kapiolani withdrawing their claim.

Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Kapiolani claimed Obama was born there at one point and then they apparently withdrew their claim.

The source for that Wikipedia claim about Kapiolani was written August 24 2008. It was in 2009 that Kapiolani removed the letter purportedly from Obama from their website which stated that Kapiolani was his birthplace.

www.washingtonpost.com...
Sunday, August 24, 2008

Before crossing the overpass above the H1 freeway, where traffic zoomed east to body-surfing beaches or west to the airport and Pearl Harbor, he passed Kapiolani Medical Center, walking below the hospital room where he was born on Aug. 4, 1961.

Hospital won't back Obama birth claim

July 6, 2009

Kristy Watanabe, the public relations specialist for the hospital refused to confirm or deny the veracity of Obama's letter claiming he was born at the hospital. ...... the letter was removed from the Kapi'olani Medical Center's website.

But if you have a better source please post it.

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It's well known that if you repeat a falsehood enough times, the falsehood will create a larger and larger following.

In this case, Obama's opponents are adding voters to their rolls. The added votes equal increased influence and power and income toward their cause.

This is the real conspiracy, and it is right in front of our eyes.

[edit on 9/7/2010 by clay2 baraka]

so what will you birthers say when it turns out to be another doctored birth certificate?

How many lies are you birthers willing to put up with before you grow up and admit the truth?

Honestly...how many times will you deal with someone calling themself a birther making up fake documents to prove your cause?

How....many...

reply to post by clay2 baraka


Exactly right. This is a GOP dirty tricks campaign. To those of you who are part of it, shame on you. For those who are fooled by it, get a clue.

reply to post by clay2 baraka


Seriously, no. There is NO right-winger, tea thrower, conservative anything that is going to get votes by declaring "I AM A BIRTHER!"

Not even the birthers like to admit they are birthers anymore.

That's one conspiracy I don't buy. It may be simply to discredit Obama, but joining the birther movement will not get votes in my opinion. This is still a fringe group, remember?

Originally posted by wcitizen
It is the fact that he is hiding the details of his birth certificate

Obama is hiding the details of his birth certificate by posting it online so anyone with web access can view it....msgboard.snopes.com...

You never really stopped and thought about what you were posting, did you!

And birthers wonder why they are thought rather silly

reply to post by crazydaisy



Lol! Exactly. Double standards comes to mind!

reply to post by dereks



Oh, come on, it has been clearly established that this isn't the full birth certificate.

You wouldn't even get a driving license with a partial birth certificate.

My prediction is that the Birther Movement will continue so long as there is a Truther Movement.

And frankly, I think it's a waste of time, but I support it. Our Constitution allows it and I'd rather people be wasting their time actually researching something about our President and politics than sitting at home watching American Idol and accepting the status quo. I'd rather people question the ridiculous than question nothing at all.