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Originally posted by oozyism
I don't think you get what freedom means, heard of freedom to choose? Those radicals who want their freedom are fighting for the freedom to choose to live their own way of life.
Sorry mate, I don't believe it is called freedom when the wishes of majority is implemented on to the minority. That is not freedom at all, that is just half totalitarianism and half BS lol..
Every man/woman has the right to live how ever he/she wants based on agreements with their surrounding population. That is freedom. When you take that freedom away from them, you are the oppressor, and they are the freedom fighters.
"Based on agreements with the surrounding population". When did the surrounding population agree that it was OK for the minority to suicide bomb the living daylights out of them until they get their way forced upon said surrounding population?
Yeah, I'm perfectly willing to "opress" that sort of activity. Their freedoms do NOT include the freedom to take MY freedom away.
Originally posted by Miraj
Why does everyone jump on Muslim bashing with every suicide bombing attack?
Do you guys have something to prove?
Pathetic..
Crazy people do crazy stuff.
Thought that was a fact of life, but not everyone was taught that apparently.
Blowing people up blablabla, that is all your Islamaphobic rhetorics. You know people with brains look at the source of the problem, they don't waste their time on the effects.
So I ask you my Muslim hating friend, why doesn't Russia make a deal with that region? Why doesn't Russia tell them to gather all those who want to live the way of life of the resistance then give them a portion of land to live in? Instead of gathering them together and blowing them in to smithereens? You tell me since you are all for freedom and peace, eh, I mean totalitarianism and hate.
Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
reply to post by oozyism
So youre saying the ends justify the means? Arent you pushing the same ideology that you condemn the US and everyone else who ISNT Muslim for doing?
Maybe because Russia like America doesnt negotiate with Terrorist........they put bullets in them.......
Islam seems to be in conflict with every society it comes into contact with.
Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by oozyism
Islam and India.
[edit on 6/9/10 by Freeborn]
Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by Ek Bharatiya
I think this is quite an accurate and unbiased view of Indian Muslim extremism.
intellibriefs.blogspot.com...
To suggest poor Hindu - Muslim relations is purely down to Hindu's is not very accurate, surely you remember the Mumbai attacks in 2008.
en.wikipedia.org...
Edit to add:Oh, and I know quite a few people of Indian and Pakistani origin and to say that the majority of Hindu, Sikh and Muslim people hate each other is an under statement to say the least, regardless of national origin.[edit on 6/9/10 by Freeborn]
Originally posted by space cadet
Who else does suicide bombings?
Suicide bombings
The LTTE have employed the use of concealed suicide vests.[92] According to Jane's Information Group, between 1980 and 2000, the LTTE carried out 168 suicide attacks causing heavy damage on economic and military targets.[93]
Many of these attacks have involved military objectives in the north and east of the country, although civilians have been targeted on numerous occasions, including during a high profile attack on Colombo's International Airport in 2001 that caused damage to several commercial airliners and military jets, and killed 16 people.[94] The LTTE was also responsible for a 1998 attack on the Buddhist shrine, and UNESCO world heritage site, Sri Dalada Maligawa in Kandy that killed 8 worshipers. The attack was symbolic in that the shrine, which houses a sacred tooth of the Buddha, is the holiest Buddhist shrine in Sri Lanka.[95] Other Buddhist shrines have been attacked, notably the Sambuddhaloka Temple in Colombo that killed 9 worshipers.[96]
Relatively speaking, there have been fewer operations in the south where most of the Sinhalese live, including the capital Colombo, although such attacks have often engaged high-profile targets and attracted much international publicity as a result.[97]
The LTTE's Black Tigers has been attributed with the assassination of Rajiv Gandhi, who was killed in 1991 using a prototype suicide vest, and Ranasinghe Premadasa, assassinated in 1993.[93]
Originally posted by space cadet
What other religion (today) kills people in the name of their god?
Lord's Resistance Army
The Lord's Resistance Army (also Lord's Resistance Movement or Lakwena Part Two) is a sectarian religious and military group based in northern Uganda.
The group was formed in 1987 and is engaged in an armed rebellion against the Ugandan government in what is now one of Africa's longest-running conflicts. It is led by Joseph Kony, who proclaims himself the "spokesperson" of God and a spirit medium, primarily of the Holy Spirit, which the Acholi believe can represent itself in many manifestations.[3]
The group is based in apocalyptic Christianity[4][5][6][7][8][9][10], but also is influenced[11] by a blend of Mysticism[12] and traditional religion,[13] and claims to be establishing a theocratic state based on the Ten Commandments and Acholi tradition.[3][14][15]
The LRA is accused of widespread human rights violations, including murder, abduction, mutilation, sexual enslavement of women and children, and forcing children to participate in hostilities.[16]
The LRA operates mainly in northern Uganda, but also in parts of Sudan, Central African Republic and DR Congo.[17][18] The LRA is currently proscribed as a terrorist organization by the United States.[19][20]
Originally posted by Ek Bharatiya
I think this is quite an accurate and unbiased view of Indian Muslim extremism.
intellibriefs.blogspot.com...
I read the complete article. It was a fair assessment and I also noted that nowhere the religion of Islam was mentioned as the cause of it.
I never suggested it is purely the fault of Hindu's. The two racial tensions (Bari Masjid and Ayodhya) were started by a political party B.J.P which incited riots. They don't represent all Hinduism even though they call themselves Hindutva party.
You don't know how many people were disgusted by their behavior allover India. They did it to achieve political goals. The terrorist attacks launched by Pakistan with the help of many inside sleeper cells and radicalized youths were terrorist attacks. There is nothing about religion in them.
No the vast majority of us dont hate eachother. How do you get the idea we do?
Of course they are not representative of ALL Hindu's.
But they DO represent what a portion of Hindu's believe.
Originally posted by Freeborn
I base that on my dealings and relations with the quite considerable number of people of Pakistani and Indian origin and ethnicity I have and do know to varying degrees here in the UK.
I assure you there is no love lost between the different communities and little or no sense of common purpose or shared identity.
I am certain that there is considerable interaction and mutual respect between all the different and diverse sections of Indian society, but I also think that to try and portray India as some sort of multi-cultural ideal is naive in the extreme.
[edit on 6/9/10 by Freeborn]
Originally posted by space cadet
reply to post by Miraj
What other religion (today) kills people in the name of their god?