PLEASE HELP!!! NFL commentator disses Katrina victims

Originally posted by Alora

Originally posted by Aggie Man

Wow, no need to take it to personal attacks....that just shows lack of intelligence.

P.S. When the Saints come marching into Dallas, they are going to get bombed worse than Pearl Harbor

I like you, friend. I really really like you.

We'll see about that!

I just have to say this.....*deep breath** I live in New Orleans and experienced all this.....but I am SICK of hearing some people who are still whining about this! I KNOW it was bad, but people who go around with the " poor me" attitude, makes people think we are a bunch of crybabies. It has been YEARS now. At some point, you have to move on. Instead of dwelling on it, use that energy and conviction, and passion to do something to help the communities that are still rebuilding.

There is no conspiracy issue here. This thread belongs in BTS.

reply to post by vimanarider

For someone to state that the "Vikings willl hit the Saints like Katrina" is one of the most out of line things I have ever heard uttered in sports.

well my friend, you have not been around as long as i have...

the most out-of-line remark ~ever~ was by the sports commentator
'Howard Cosell'... during a football game the callous announcer blurted out
"...Look at that Monkey run !!..."
of course even as he was saying it, i knew that his time as a sportscaster were numbered in hours...the network canned him that evening i suppose

I slightly agree with everyone here...

Do I think he should be fired? No, because he would never find another job; sports announcers are very... simple... people. I don't personally think he should have had a job to begin with but that's just my personal opinion on where the money goes in the country and who actually deserves it.

I do think it is pretty insensitive, although he likely meant no harm by it... again... he is not a "mean" person, he is just another stupid sports announcer, and none of them really deserve to have jobs because they are just annoying and we already know pretty much everything they have to say anyways if we're actually interested in the sport. Useless profession built to employ thick has-beens.

more political correctness crap.

This is getting out of hand and it's a sad sad world we live in.

They're words, thats all.

reply to post by elevatedone


Political correctness is -- in a sense -- necessary to maintain a level of control so that people can coexist peacefully. If one is not part of a minority, one does not know what it feels like to be hated for something one cannot control.

If you are a minority, many people judge you on this difference as if you can change it to stop the ridicule, but you can't, so it simply continues, forever. Otherwise, you as a minority live a normal life, and every time a derogatory term comes up it just reminds you of all of those people who judge you based on this one simple adjective that describes you. If there was no political correctness, gay people would constantly be referred to as faggots or butt bandits -- as they were referred to when gay people were thrown in jail for even showing the slightest sign of a "different" sexual preference -- because other people are ignorant to the fact that it is offensive and PC makes it known. Black people would still be referred to as 'n-word's or porch monkeys, as they were referred to when they were slaves. In these instances, words are more than just words; they are agents of hate and should absolutely be controlled if we want to live in an accepting society.

In this particular instance with hurricane Katrina, it is actually probably pretty offensive, and I can imagine it might stir some emotions in people who are/know victims of the tragedy. The joke seems innocent to us because we did not experience it, but if we were part of the tragedy it would likely be a lot more offensive, which is why I personally can not fully say that it is not; it is not offensive to ME, but it is probably offensive to SOMEONE, so I see what the sports announcer said to be rude and inconsiderate, but I forgive him because he is a sports announcer and I expect nothing educated or intelligent to come out of his mouth. Although, I certainly don't condone publicly bringing up something that killed people and ruined lives as if it is some sort of joke (unless, of course, it was a war that was about nothing, or something, but that's an entirely different subject)

I absolutely agree that it is getting a little ridiculous in some ways, though. I really don't see why "black" is becoming the new "'n-word'", and everyone needs to start saying "African-American". I think it might be a complete mistake in the first place. I don't think black people have ever been offended by the adjective "black", but it becomes offensive when used as a noun instead of an adjective, as if that is what black people are, black; and that is all. It's the same story with saying the terms "Blacks", "Gays", or "a Gay" or "Asian" (these ones aren't nearly as offensive as terms like faggot and 'n-word', but they are pretty bad), instead of black people, gay people, etc.. Anyways, if I were black, the term "African American" would almost seem more offensive to me because it seems to infer that black people are somehow different than other races -- we don't call white people "Caucasian-American", why do we have to pretend like black people are a different kind of American than white people? It seems like its saying "Yes, they are American, BUT they are black.". Also, I think it's stupid when black people get defensive about the word "'n-word'" if you are using it in a sentence while talking about the word itself. If you are not using it to refer to a black person or to make someone feel less than you, then it is just an official word. I am openly gay and if someone says the term "faggot" and they are not referring to me or a gay person negatively, they are simply expressing an opinion (as long as it is actually an opinion and not just arguing against facts that the speaker is ignorant about) on the word itself, then it is fine to say. The gay community does not own the word "faggot", and black people do not own the word "'n-word'". In this sense, words are words.

My first Sig:

Political correctness: Necessary, but far too manipulative

P.S. Sorry, I didn't realize that this post was getting so long.

Actually, I'm with the OP on this. Trash talk, macho hyperbole, blah blah blah. You're in IN New Orleans, you're IN the Superdome. BOth places have seen tragic loss of lives and traumatic repercussions on many levels. IT's just a very very stupid thing to say, and he should be embarassed to say something so callous. I know it's "cool" and "hip" and "trendy" to make fun of other peoples suffering and misery, but pro athletes are already worth less than garbage men to society, making the guys sitting around talking about them even lower on the totem pole. If you're going ot make tasteless jokes that only reveal your disconnect from the avergae person you're catering to, at least have the intellectual fortitude to be able to explain how your little comment shouldn't be construed as desecrating the loss and pain of many many people. I'm pretty sure Mr Commentator isn't up to the task.

reply to post by Brood


And what about White people who are demonised and resented just because they are born with pale skin? White people might not have gone through the same grievances as minorities in the past, but they are reminded on a daily basis how "they" are responsible for the injustices experienced by other people. It's just assumed because you have pale skin that you have had an easy life and don't understand what it's like to struggle and suffer. How about that for discrimination?

I too live in Louisiana but come on here. This only going to add to the PC thing here. Grow up and try to get some thicker skin. If you take all comments like this personally then I really feel sorry for you because you will be crying for the rest of your life.

I think the responsibility lies with you to CHANGE THE CHANNEL!

Why is it that people always say "Fire them!" - Dont we have enough people in the country that are unemployed?

This exact behavior is why terrorism works...

Originally posted by Dark Ghost
reply to post by Brood

 

And what about White people who are demonised and resented just because they are born with pale skin? White people might not have gone through the same grievances as minorities in the past, but they are reminded on a daily basis how "they" are responsible for the injustices experienced by other people. It's just assumed because you have pale skin that you have had an easy life and don't understand what it's like to struggle and suffer. How about that for discrimination?

edit on 10/9/2010 by Dark Ghost because: grammar

Is there a negative word that reflects this form of hatred (as I clearly am not denying it definitely exists) towards white people? If so, it is offensive and should be included in the PC list. Otherwise, this, again, has nothing to do with my post. I appreciate the thrill you get from arguing with people who can construct a proper argument, but if you could stop following me from thread to thread and "arguing" with every single idea I bring up, it would be much appreciated; it's pretty creepy, and this is getting way off topic. Thank you.

I still think the Saints are in for a real storm.

Their game just doesnt hold water.

Once the Vikings open the floodgates there is no stopping them.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
I still think the Saints are in for a real storm.

Their game just doesnt hold water.

Once the Vikings open the floodgates there is no stopping them.

It's sad that this form of humor about the issue is not only subtle and much less provocative, but the humor structure of the humor itself is miles more evolved than what the announcer says and gets broadcasted nationally. This is mostly why I think most of these sports announcers are quite undeserving of their jobs; most people can think of things to say that are infinitely more entertaining than the mutterings of these people who love to talk far too much about nothing that matters.

eh, all sports use overly melodramatic references as metaphors for their competition.

"Man they killed us" (a phrase familiar with most Mets fans ) or "we got decimated", etc.

Football, in particular, is prone to this type of hype. If this offends you why not get mad about the zillion times you will hear "we are going to war" in all the pre-game shows this weekend when we are really at war or were or whatever state of action we now call it?

Originally posted by vimanarider

Well I happened upon an absolutely disgusting statement by a Hall of Fame NFL player and current NFL commentator, Dan Hampton.

football is a full contact sport. maybe this guy just took a few too many hits to his head during his career. should he have said it. no, maybe not. could it have been a temporary lack of judgement on his part? maybe.

i give the guy the benefit of the doubt. but, no, he could have done his commentary without that statement.

give a stranger a hug today,
et

My school took in about 100 students from New Orleans and Mississippi high schools and gave them free tuition, free uniforms the whole schpeel.

One of these guys I befriended and he was on the football team.

He, a young man who lost his home. A young man who had to pick up and move to Houston from New Orleans and had to stay because his family was not lucky enough to afford to move back, before one of the big games said "We are going to hit them like Katrina." We all paused for a second and then busted into laughter. The whole class. 25 students who sat there and watched CNN as Katrina hit in the very classroom we were in. Plus 4 students from NOLA.

My point? Just because it's a tragedy doesn't mean you can't make a joke. Doesn't mean you can't make an analogy.

I think he made a damn good one. Katrina was one mean son of a gun. Everyone got the point.

And...the guy didn't say the Vikings "were" going to hit them like Katrina. He said "They will need to" Which was true. To beat the Saints, you gotta hit them hard, fast, and keep it coming.

Also...lets keep the insults out OP...and if you are going to attack someone based on their "intelligence" at least know what you are talking about. Friday Night Lights is not a reality show. It's a drama. The Aggies would never show up there.

It's ok to be outraged. But don't expect us to be on the same level as you.

reply to post by Skyfloating


And who won the game? Woohooo, The mighty Saitns...Yeah baby

Originally posted by Skyfloating
I still think the Saints are in for a real storm.

Their game just doesnt hold water.

Once the Vikings open the floodgates there is no stopping them.

now thats a saints joke
better than any momma joke i've heard