Extraterrestrial UFO Are Real : Ben Rich Lockheed CEO Admitted In His Deathbed Confession

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Also to reflect the fact that we have no evidence that he made claims like this ever. [HOAX] tags would be most appropriate if you ask me.

Originally posted by Turiddu
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Also to reflect the fact that we have no evidence that he made claims like this ever. [HOAX] tags would be most appropriate if you ask me.

In this case, I know I've seen videos where he said this--and other people who worked at the Sknunkworks as well.

Ben Rich supposedly said that at a reception of Lockheed employees after his retirement, basically that the aliens were already here and the U.S. had the techology to travel to the stars. And why not? They've been working on all these things in secret for decades, so they must have come up with something in all that time.





[edit on 4-9-2010 by witness63]

DAMN!!!
I knew it!!!
I was emailing Lockheed about making UFOs all the time, I even emailed NASA and Boeing,

I am so glad that the truth has finally come out


here is another article on the subject

usahitman.com...

OMG!!!
I cant believe UFOs use teleportation,
That would explain why the last UFO I seen in the upper atmostphere disappeared and reappeared at 1000 feet

It also explains why "The Light Beings" talks about how all things are connected and we are gods, in spirituality


[edit on 4-9-2010 by SupremeKnowledge]

reply to post by SupremeKnowledge


Wut?

Pretty sure everything you said is unrelated to the misguided information from the OP.

Originally posted by FoxStriker
I've read this before....

I wonder why its only when your death is inevitable that people find the courage to help the world with information.

I guess if we convince world and military leaders at gun point we might get answers.

Becaus e they have nothing left to fear or to lose. They are going to die anyway, so why not come clean or atleast get things of your chest?
Get your house in order before you leave this world.

***Money Making Scam***


Has anyone checked the link of the journal that is on the link page the OP referenced to. If not I will show you:

MUFON UFO JOURNAL (SCAM)

Benjamin Robert Rich died January 5th 1995

Benjamin Rich

Its all about the money people, that's what its always all about.



[edit on 5-9-2010 by franspeakfree]

Originally posted by franspeakfree
***HOAX****


Has anyone checked the link of the journal that is on the link page the OP referenced to. If not I will show you:

MUFON UFO JOURNAL (SCAM)

Benjamin Robert Rich died January 5th 1995

Benjamin Rich

Its all about the money people, that's what its always all about.

[edit on 5-9-2010 by franspeakfree]

Your opinion that this is a SCAM as you've taken the time to bold type might just be nothing more than you're own personal attempt to SHAM this post.

I think the jury is still out to deliberate until somebody who has a copy of this MUFON Journal can present the evidence of whether this is a hear-say account or if signed affidavits (of those present during this alleged confession) were indeed included or referenced in the journal.

I'm not prepared to poo poo this confession until the above is investigated. To say that this post is nothing more than an attempt to SCAM us because it's source is listed on Amazon for $45 doesn't necessarily close this case. It just seems to give you an opportunity to cry foul is all.

For those who know aliens are real and wont disclose it, belive we all are no brainers.SURE we can handle the truth but they JUST CAN'T HANDLE US knowing it !

Originally posted by witness63
From what I've read, most of those people who were at the Skunkworks believed that aliens were real and that they were visiting earth, including the famous Kelly Johnson, who designed the U-2 and SR-71. I think they just took that for granted since they had seen UFOs that they couldn't explain any other way. Kelly Johnson supposedly got some ideas for new aircraft designs just from UFOs that he'd observed.

Johnson absolutely did witness and report one UFO sighting and had another. I think it's safe to say they did not discourage him in his career as an aircraft designer.

Originally posted by warequalsmurder
Your opinion that this is a SCAM as you've taken the time to bold type might just be nothing more than you're own personal attempt to SHAM this post.

I know its frustrating and we all want disclosure, but due to the fact that none of the actual evidence put forward by MUFON is new. This man died in 1995 thats 15 years ago. Why dredge up 15 year old story. None of this information is new. It is simply put out there so people spend there hard earned money on a document that they think is relevant to their cause. When in actual fact its doing the opposite.

Before you label me as a disinfo/cointel member, believe me when I say that no one wants disclosure more than me. Ufology is my life, because of this I have come to realise just when we are getting played in order for others to make money off the back of this subject. Thats the whole reason why books are published after a mass of UFO media coverage. Its always about the money.

Don't get me wrong I am positive that lockheed was involved in black projects and I am absolutely 100% convinced that we own craft that can visit the stars. But MUFON is not what it portrays itself to be its always about the money.



[edit on 5-9-2010 by franspeakfree]

Originally posted by franspeakfree

Originally posted by warequalsmurder
Your opinion that this is a SCAM as you've taken the time to bold type might just be nothing more than you're own personal attempt to SHAM this post.

Before you label me as a disinfo/cointel member, believe me when I say that no one wants disclosure more than me. Ufology is my life, because of this I have come to realise just when we are getting played in order for others to make money off the back of this subject. Thats the whole reason why books are published after a mass of UFO media coverage. Its always about the money.

Don't get me wrong I am positive that lockheed was involved in black projects and I am absolutely 100% convinced that we own craft that can visit the stars. But MUFON is not what it portrays itself to be its always about the money.



[edit on 5-9-2010 by franspeakfree]

Personally, I never buy any books these days, since I can read everything I want to know for free on Google and places like that. It's only natural that these big defense firms would want to profit as much as possible from any ET technology that might have been recovered over the years, and keep it secret as long as they could so they could maintain a monopoly over the classified patents.

I do believe peopel like Ben Rich when they say that's exactly what they've been doing, with the help of the military that would have every reason in the world to keep things like these secret from other countries for as long as possible. It gives them a big advantage, although they probably don't mind giving out hints once in a while that they do have this major technical edge over everyone else, like the Russians and Chinese--bigger than most people will ever know.

Originally posted by franspeakfree

I know its frustrating and we all want disclosure, but due to the fact that none of the actual evidence put forward by MUFON is new. This man died in 1995 thats 15 years ago. Why dredge up 15 year old story. None of this information is new. It is simply put out there so people spend there hard earned money on a document that they think is relevant to their cause. When in actual fact its doing the opposite.

This is all besides the point. We all know that WW2 happened over 65 years ago, but since WW2 happened so long ago does that mean that it didn't happen?
If their are affidavits provided by those that attended this confession then this story could be 1000 years old and it still would not change its relevance.
And stating that books that report about these instances are only put out there for money is another opinion of yours and in no way is a fact as you try and make it seem like.

franspeakfree
Before you label me as a disinfo/cointel member, believe me when I say that no one wants disclosure more than me. Ufology is my life, because of this I have come to realise just when we are getting played in order for others to make money off the back of this subject. Thats the whole reason why books are published after a mass of UFO media coverage. Its always about the money.

Nobody labeled you a disinfo/cointel member. Sounds like you're getting a bit Freudian to me.
Ufology also seems to be the life of payed disinfo/debunker agents too, therefore your claims to want disclosure lead to no credence here. See how easy it is to dismiss personal claims by using nothing but one's own words and opinions? Or should I add (bold letters) enclosed in paranthesis to further drive my point?

franspeakfree
Don't get me wrong I am positive that lockheed was involved in black projects and I am absolutely 100% convinced that we own craft that can visit the stars. But MUFON is not what it portrays itself to be its always about the money.

Oh, I don't think I have you wrong for one second of the day franspeakfree.
You're claim that MUFON is always about the money is a pretty steep accusation and just another opinion by the way. A rather biased one for somebody who wants disclosure might I add.

I on the other hand would like to see the original death bed confession documents before I go and dismiss this out of hand. Why? Because I have an open mind that is not easily swayed by biased opinions and is more satisfied with the evidence if it is indeed possible to obtain.

If there is no true evidence other than Tom Keller's word (who used to work for JPL laboratories), then I'll be willing to give much more possibility that this story is a (SCAM).

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yeah because you know.

reply to post by Vincent84


This UFO blogger claim is mere hearsay.Do we have video of him saying anything on his deathbed?Did he relinquish any real tangible evidence to support his claims?

Put simply I believe the story is a heap of bs.Pornography for wanna-believers.Articles like this push me further and further to the belief that there are no ufos.

A few more like this and I will be convinced that all ufo-heads are spoofers and simpletons, wasting the time and dishonoring the good intentions and efforts of many posters on this forum.

PS. Have you ever been at someone's deathbed?You'll find that there is not a lot said and that which is ,is mostly delirious and incoherent.People making detailed, groundbreaking deathbed testimony is pure Hollywood.

In this correspondence, Rich writes that he did believe in ET UFOs.

reply to post by Vincent84


I am not trying to bust anyones bubble, but I am very tech savy and I can tell you indefinately that we cannot reach other stars gauranteed unless time travelers have came back from the the future to share information. Good post though.

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You don't know other civilisations or even ours have the ability to by pass the theory of relativity, maybe there are flaws in our theories or "Wormholes" in space as Einstein once suggested.


[edit on 5/9/10 by awake_and_aware]

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So am I to believe, the CEO of Company that makes top secret Aircraft for
the Government says yip those funny things you see in sky are not our
top secret aircraft but really are UFO's.

And should I believe a CEO of a Company that has probably never left the
comfort of his swish Office over somebody that cleans Chimneys.
Is Believability based on thier place in society, it would appear so.

"Don Phillips, "These UFOs were huge and they would just come to a stop and do a 60 degree, 45 degree, 10 degree turn, and then immediately reverse this action". During the Apollo landing, Neil Armstrong says, "They're here.They are right over there and looking at the size of those ships., it is obvious they dont like us being here”.

www.ufo-blogger.com...



First off, how does this man have the nerve to automatically believe they are malicious because of the size of the craft - that's pure ignorance of the highest degree.

Secondly, extraterrestrials aren't just one entity; there are multiple races of multiple planets. The majority being benevolent and have been here beyond antiquity.


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The very statement "Free energy" should explain the reasoning why it's classified to the fullest.

Tesla tried to give the world free energy; but his financial support stopped when they realized that it was free energy.


Namaste.

[edit on 5-9-2010 by 11118]

Ok, I'm reading now within the article that MUFON actually claims to have a hand written letter admitting the existence of extraterrestrials by former Lochheed CEO Ben Rich, provided by Lockheed engineer John Andrews who was a close personal friend of Rich....

Keller had requested that Andrews take a list of questions to the ailing Rich who responded with all of the positive confirmation of extraterrestrial ships and much more.

Now if we can get a hard copy of the letter than we might be getting somewhere tangible here.