America Rising.... New Republican ad ... A MUST WATCH!!!!

If you were to boil the main campaign message from the last major election of the current democrats in power down to its "Core Message" it would be....

"We are not Republicans!! Vote for us!!!"

It worked because the Republicans were in power and people were sick of what they were doing.

Now the Democrats are in power and the people are sick of what they are doing. So the Republicans main campaign message is....

"We are not Democrats!! Vote for us!!!"

It looks like that message may get them in. What neither side seems to realize that the most people seem to want a politician that is able to accomplish something for them and for the country - not just be against the other side.

Bottom line whoever wins actually has to you know... fix things.. run the country and run it well or they'll get voted out too. Right now the people want the politicians to do one thing - fix it.

I don't think either side really "gets it". Just shut up and fix it. Fix it and you'll get votes again next election - pull the same old crap as has been going on forever and you'll get voted out.

The party than can do that will do well. Thus far both seem bound and determined to just keep blaming the other and doing the same ol', same ol'.

reply to post by Frogs


That is what I took from the video, as well. Those in control now, were put there to put an end to what the people saw as unacceptable. Now, those in control have continued, extended and expanded those same unacceptable policies. So, they've got to go.

I see it as "We the People" are sick of the "politics as usual".

Originally posted by joechip
That "ad" is a lie-filled sack of garbage and you know it. OR you ought to know it.

Care to debate a specific "lie"? Or did you hope to just cast out a blanket statement and hope it would go unchallenged?

reply to post by Janky Red


Okay, JR, this isn't a contest to see who can out-creepy video the other!

But, if it were, I would score both a 10 on a scale of 10, for creepiness. But, the Obama video would win, by a nose, for over the top indoctrination, because it had more wall posters and the participants had matching t-shirts!

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Stare into the center of the hypno-wheel for about 30 seconds, then look into the Presidents eyes........is it just me or does his face appear to change?

Maybe this is the change that he was talking about. The only other possible change that I can see would be the change that's in my pocket.

Yes we can. Yes we can............put em to sleep and rob em blind! So what if its a crime. It works every time. It doesn't even have to rhyme. Just give em back a few dimes. And everything is fine. Yes we can. Yes we can.......

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Damn, they have ads like that in the US? No wonder that country's screwed up.

Has it ever occured to you guys that the problems in your country might be beyond fixing, and that the electoral system is incapable of producing a potentially effective and free-willed decision maker as president?

Just going back and forth between Republicans and Democrats is like spinning your wheels -- getting you nowhere but deeper down in the muck.

As an outsider, I am hoping that for once a national surge for some alternative third party takes hold. It is your only hope.

This is so disheartening to see. I dont like the left right partisan politics at all. This country was ruined before Nov. 8th 2008.

It say in the video no to taxes? They are talking about the super rich that none of us will ever achieve. We are being sold to cheap. If we keep pointing the finger to the left and the righ we cannot see whats heading straight at us.

A polarized nation that is of just the rich and the poor with jumping the gap from the poor to the rich being as impossible as leaping form one side of the Grand Canyon to the other,

ooh, fear music..

a republican running on the platform of anger and fear...how different.

This reminds me of something...what was it...oh, right, Obama ran on hope and change, McCain ran on fear and anger...

no worries though, I imagine doing the same thing over and over will eventually turn different results eventually.

its cool though, dont bother laying out a plan or anything...people dont care about plans, they just want to be angry or scared into voting...and hey, with no actual plans spoken, people can't say you did nothing in office should you arrive..considering that was the platform.

I do like the one thing you mentioned though...no taxes...wow...granted the roads are going to goto hell, and it might be difficult with no military, or FDA, etc...but will certainly be interesting...the first society ever with no taxes

incidently, due to this video...any republican that gets elected in november, if they do not make an attempt to eliminate all federal taxes, they are liars that need to be tossed out.

all taxes...the video clearly said no taxes...lets put the screws to the thumbs on this one folks.

Wow, quite possibly the most rediculous republican ad ive ever seen. Take our country back. From who, fascists and give it to more fascists? Trying to vote out corruption will never work. If you seriously think that if a republican was in office that things would be better, you are delusional.

The republicans are guilty of the same criminal activity as the democrats. Why dont you go and read airspoons recent thread about politicians being two sides of the same coin. It sums up the situation we are in very well.

reply to post by OldDragger


Don't forget, President Bush was in office for eight years, but the democrates were in control the last four of those years. If they didn't want to spend the money, they didn't have to vote on it. So in total democrates have been in control of both houses for six years and it's getting worse.

Originally posted by Chance321
reply to post by OldDragger

 

Don't forget, President Bush was in office for eight years, but the democrates were in control the last four of those years. If they didn't want to spend the money, they didn't have to vote on it. So in total democrates have been in control of both houses for six years and it's getting worse.

Factcheck

Dems were in control for the last 2 years of the Bush term...causing a lame duck session.

thats 2 years...not 4.

Originally posted by SaturnFX
...causing a lame duck session.

In the loosest sense of the term, since they all still spent our money like madmen

reply to post by jaynkeel


That ad is incredibly stupid and reeks of propaganda.

And who is the "we" they're talking about? It's probably safe to assume that the makers/backers of the video DID NOT vote for Obama. This is an ad targeting any potential fence-sitters or disillusioned Democrats and doesn't seem to be an honest cry.

That said... the Republicans are a TERRIBLE ALTERNATIVE to Democrats. Being disappointed with Democrats and then voting Republican (like a sheep) is like being upset with Hitler and voting for the Devil himself instead.

Only idiots or the rich vote Republican.

We need independent parties, we need the Green Party, we need radical solutions that ACTUAL deliver on liberty and prosperity instead of using those words to push agendas that bring the opposite. The right-wing, overall, has and is bringing the OPPOSITE of freedom/prosperity, no matter how much they spin their message and wrap themselves up in knee-jerk symbolism.

This quote sums it up:
“When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”

WHATEVER YOU DO, NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN.

reply to post by Son of Will


So this means the 'republicans' will repeal the patriot act and all the fascist constraints that came with it, even those in the works? Too many to name, really, and too disheartening to even look at. What a load of bunk. I'll bet most 'republicans' voted for these abominations.

Come on repubs, big pharma is waiting for you to knock out the killer weed.

Repubs, dems, no difference. All they are doing is taking advantage of evil to install themselves into positions of greed and power, just like obammy did.

reply to post by SaturnFX


I'm pretty sure most sensible people will stand by me in saying Bush caused our problems and Obama "fixed" it by smearing feces all over the open wound.

Originally posted by WTFover

Originally posted by joechip
As I recall, TARP was approved under Bush,

"approved" by a....drum roll, please....Democrat controlled Senate and House.

the AIG bailout as well,

ditto

the Fanny and Freddie bailout as well

and, ditto!

Wrong. The Democrats never had control of the Senate until after the elections in November 2008. From 2006 - 2008 there were 49 Democrats, 49 Republicans and 2 Independents. It's the Senate that has to approve any major legislation, regardless of whether it passes in the lower house. And in the case of the TARP legislation that enabled AIG and Fannie/Freddie bailouts, only 15 Republican Senators voted against it.

TARP was a wholly Republican bill, proposed by the Republican appointed Treasurer Hank Paulson (with threats of martial law and tanks in the street if not passed), backed by the Republican appointed Chairman of the Federal Reserve Ben Bernanke, pushed and supported by the Republican President George Bush and the Republican Presidential nominee John McCain, along with 33 other Republican Senators.

Conservatives talk about taking personal responsibility for your actions but the truth is they've done nothing but duck and weave on this ever since it happened and try to pass the blame to the Democrats.

edit: Out of interest I tallied up the House vote on TARP. 95 Democrats voted against (40.5%) versus 65 Republicans voting against (33%).
The TARP bill was defeated by the Democrat controlled House of Representatives.

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reply to post by OldDragger


Guess What - The current government just made it law that you MUST by a product from a private company - health insurance. They say it's not a tax yet the IRS enforces payment of 'premiums'. Fines or jail if you dint comply. You like that? Did you vote for that? Thanks.

You over simplify by blaming Bush - meaningless, pathetic.

We (me and you) need elected officials that act on the will of the people that voted them into office.



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So far it seems that everyone is in agreement that we are damned if we do[democrat] or damned if we don't[republican]. I guess it's pretty safe to say it's a sorry state of affairs to be in. Something is truly wrong with the system when you can not go left or right for a stable answer and an honest attempt at fixing all the things that seem to be plaguing our country. It is even sadder that we the people have a pretty good idea at how to set things back on course yet no person thats been elected so far will listen to us.

Originally posted by Whine Flu
Damn, they have ads like that in the US? No wonder that country's screwed up.

There are a lot of ads that get played once or twice, or at length, until they hear that maybe it was a bad idea to formulate that ad. One example is the 'Amerika's greatness was not founded on skyscrapers alone...' This ran for over a year until someone pointed out the similarities to nimrod. I don't think they play it at all anymore, and it seemed to stop overnight, though it started to play a week ago but was interrupted. It ceased playing about 6 months ago.

Another ad, formulated by banksters, showed displaced persons who were hitch hiking, and being selected on the basis of their credit score, which was tattooed on their chests, or on placards on their torsos. Very low class, but it did give the bankster perspective on those who are drowning.

Ads are everything, since no politician has any true substance.

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reply to post by jaynkeel


You know, Republicans have proven to be a lame bunch lately.

Their ads show it.