National Hero and sixth man to walk on the Moon comes clean

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The only person refusing to discuss the topic here is you. You have attempted numerous times to shift the topic to other members. I am not the topic; discussing my avatar, my personality or anything else about me does not increase the validity of your claims.

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oh but MY mind exigences have already been satisfy but those guys
they sure are more wise than any of us here
i respect very much any astronauts
thats why i listen to them when they speak or release a statement

about my grammar
if you can understand what im saying then its great for me
somebody have just told me that i spelled astronault .. like this
i didnt know i putted a L there
now i will never put any L there
if you can show me some of my grammar mistakes i will be extremelly interested to correct my futur grammar
im still learning my english and my first language french ahah

reply to post by Ben81


In a situation like this, Hit Girl says "Ignore the trolls"

Originally posted by Ben81
i respect very much any astronauts

Then why are you calling them liars?

Originally posted by Ben81
im still learning my english

and my first language french ahah

You are doing fine.

Originally posted by DoomsdayRex
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The only person refusing to discuss the topic here is you. You have attempted numerous times to shift the topic to other members. I am not the topic; discussing my avatar, my personality or anything else about me does not increase the validity of your claims.

i agree ..
so why did you discuss my mental aptitude
filled with delusion ... but i cant discuss you new disturbing avatar
my mental aptitudes is the same kind of subject than you new avatar
dont speak about my mental aptitude and i wont speak about you delusional avatar

look the video material of Mitchell our ex defense minister in the start of the thread and the Videos rajaten provided about mister cooper the astronaut... and all other astronauts statement ...
i simply dont understand why you critic me for more facts
i dont know anymore what to give you since you repeat yourself constantly
without giving me a simple fact from your side of the story

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i didnt call them liar ... about their statement they released
only the speculation part that they did the correct thing to lie about the moon landing mission
they didnt had any choices to lie and i respect those lie
if the theory about the aliens bases on the moons are real
but thats their word ... its because of that .. i feel maybe they didnt go to the moon after all

thank you about me doing fine in english
that was really appreciated

Originally posted by DoomsdayRex

Yes, you are missing something. There is a difference between a UFO sighting and first-hand knowledge of an alien presence on Earth. Why is that so hard to comprehend? It is not a difficult concept to grasp.

Oh I'm sorry Rex,

I thought we were debating astronauts that have spoken about UFOs...

So yep, I am missing something.

Originally posted by Ben81
look the video material of Mitchell our ex defense minister in the start of the thread and the Videos rajaten provided about mister cooper the astronaut... and all other astronauts statement ...

That is the thing, these people are not speaking with any direct, first-hand knowledge about aliens. Mitchell and Cooper have seen UFOs, that is all well and good. But so have I; being that I saw an unidentified flying object does not grant me any special insight about aliens. Mitchell claims to have second-hand anecdote; that is all well and good, but it is anecdote, not evidence. And even Hellyer has no first-hand information; all of his knowledge of UFOs comes from watching the Peter Jennings UFO special, reading The Day After Roswell and a suspicious anecdote regarding a US Admiral's loose-lips.

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Hey Ben, I love your theory, but how do you explain the recent photos of all the landing modules there on the moon right where their supposed to by the orbiting camera.

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Many have tried to cover up the cover ups with a cover up
they constantly do that so people cant really pinpoint the real truth
so the denie stories can have chance to actually take up the wrong from right to a 50 50 chances
that why its hard to really know the truth
they lie about a lie to lie about another lie
so the truth have little chance to prevail even at the end
even with a weird looking ship with different color parked in my parking
it would be hard to know the real truth about it
is it Alien ? is it a man made top secret ship ? maybe he is coming from the futur or from another paralele dimension ?? or is it a hoax silly box with firework underneath it made by my friends for a jk ??
maybe i bought it in a junk sale and i dont remember it ?
is it a new car ???

im a big skeptic like you... on alien but after 15 yrs of personal research
they exist and i think they have bases on the other side of the moon
but that my opinions and if some astronauts beleive the same thing i do
then i feel much closer to the truth
i only work with deduction and logic
you dont beleive me .. so dont beleive me
i will never force anyone to beleive in what i beleive

Originally posted by Overtime
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Hey Ben, I love your theory, but how do you explain the recent photos of all the landing modules there on the moon right where their supposed to by the orbiting camera.

Those pictures are provided to us by NASA and they could of easily photo shopped some images in. We need some ground based telescope confirmation from a third party unaffiliated with NASA.

Originally posted by Overtime
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Hey Ben, I love your theory, but how do you explain the recent photos of all the landing modules there on the moon right where their supposed to by the orbiting camera.

i have trouble beleive in any picture
when i see a UFO picture even the most clear one
i always doubt them to be hoaxs
its easy to take good picture of the moon and photoshop it in a realistic way.. milions of expert people in photographies and image makers
can reproduce any image
addind a thing on a picture can be easy
the picture would became a art since someone worked on it for many hrs

before continuing the speculate on those pictures
they might be actually real
the nick "maybe maybe not" is well aplied there lol

can you link those pictures i would love to analyse them up and bring new speculations depending on what they look like

thanks

As i recall, the astronauts were hypnotized during debriefing, a standard procedure. Hoagland points out this gave them a great opportunity to make them forget what they saw, or if that failed, they conditioned them so that they COULD NOT talk about it even if they wanted to.
There are reports of said astronauts becoming physically ill when questioned about the moon.
I'd buy that, it's just thesort of thing they would do

Originally posted by epsilon69

Originally posted by Overtime
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Hey Ben, I love your theory, but how do you explain the recent photos of all the landing modules there on the moon right where their supposed to by the orbiting camera.

Those pictures are provided to us by NASA and they could of easily photo shopped some images in. We need some ground based telescope confirmation from a third party unaffiliated with NASA.

ya many picture from nasa have been censored (blurry style) ... i dont trust nasa sometime
they are usualy big picture of the moon and some are from mars
many big large pictures have been analysed ..
they didnt hide everything on purpose ? i cant tell
but a millions people analysing it .. can have better result (better than a dozen of nasa image experts)
thats why we keep finding things and even those blurry spot in some nasa picture that were obviously censored by them ...

i think nasa is hiding something
like i dont trust the governement sometimes

Originally posted by playswithmachines
As i recall, the astronauts were hypnotized during debriefing, a standard procedure. Hoagland points out this gave them a great opportunity to make them forget what they saw, or if that failed, they conditioned them so that they COULD NOT talk about it even if they wanted to.
There are reports of said astronauts becoming physically ill when questioned about the moon.
I'd buy that, it's just thesort of thing they would do

wow thanks .. i never actually think of that speculation
all i can say .. its plausible and wouldnt surprise me if they really did that
if the gov agree to waterboard innocent people
they can agree on hypno therapie
nice find.. thank you again

I don't know where this thread is going, i just want to say that i believe cooper, Mitchell and the others. It is sad people have assassinated the characters of these heroes, just appalling. I have NOT seen sufficient evidence to indicate they are liars. I believe we were warded off the moon in 1972 as the story goes. Ol Buzz tried to talk and they shut him up and he has been using the Phobos monolith story as a hint for he is not at liberty to divulge what he knows imho. Even on the death bed these guys have to worry about TPTB messing with their family's. So i have to agree to disagree with the skeptics. These men are of high standard. NASA does not send crackpots to the moon. There is too much history there and cover up. Just look at the LCROSS mission, that was a lie imo.

[edit on 31-8-2010 by theMegaladon]

Ben I just wanted to say I appreciate your findings they were intriguing. I never knew that Armstrong saw two large crafts on the moon. Wonder if the footage still exists.

Originally posted by theMegaladon
I don't know where this thread is going, i just want to say that i believe cooper, Mitchell and the others. It is sad people have assassinated the characters of these heroes, just appalling.

I guess the point is whether their position makes UFOs any more real. Joe Blow saw one too, so is their experience any more credible than his real experience? Do they push proof positive forward even a little bit, or is it just a repeat of the same old thing.

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very well explained
i couldnt have explained better myself

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Real Deep

You Don't Trust The Military, and Now You don't Trust Astronauts

So I guess you Think all these People Are Deeply disturbed as well

Maybe They Hoaxed it All, I mean There Only National Heroes Right?

They Need Money And Glory and they will do anything to get it?

I'm Starting to finally see a pattern to your posts