National Hero and sixth man to walk on the Moon comes clean

Originally posted by Jesuswasasailor
reply to post by Ben81
[Let me get this straight ben81. you believe the astroNAUTs are telling the truth about seeing ufo's but think they are lying about some or all of the moon landings? It is obvious that there is some comprehension issues on my end with what you are saying but it seems like you are all over the map on some issues. therefore I am confused, entertained but confused.]

i explained in one of my previous post about how i connected the dot
and how i see the fake moon landing mission would be the result of those astroNAUTS being scare after seeing those huge menacing alien bases
i wouldnt arrive to this theory of a fake moon landing if they didnt release those statements and why now they are coming clean with whatreallyhappened 40 yrs later
its less complicated for them to finally tell about these UFO sighting adding that aliens do exist ...
imagine if they had to say that they never went to the moon .. but almost did until they saw the ships ... thats why they communicated with NASA with the real facts .. they would be no conspiracy of the fake moon landing mission if they really went there to collect important data
they didnt so the Gov or Nasa had a plan B if they didnt succeed since the world was watching .. NASA couldnt AFFORD of not showing to the world a mission that went well and made history of the firsts humans on the moon

Originally posted by Ben81
My goal is to have the opinion of those skeptic hardcore guys that keep criticizing all i have provided so far

Considering you have participated in this thread for a dozen pages now, it is a mystery why our opinions should still be unclear to you.

Originally posted by Ben81
they critic the thread but cant provide anything so i can agree with their view..

We have provided everything; you have refused to even acknowledge this. And you call us closed-minded.

Originally posted by Ben81
other close minded persons especially the hardcore skeptics

Can you please explain how we are closed-minded?

Originally posted by Ben81
why now they are coming clean with whatreallyhappened 40 yrs later

Please provide a single quote from a single astronaut, direct and sourced, not hearsay, rumor or a transcript of a non-existent transmission, claiming they either hoaxed the moon landing or saw aliens on the moon.

Originally posted by Ben81

what do you mean ??
like the apollo 11 space craft they used suposedly on the moon ??
where is it ?
i dont get the russian part :puzz:
yes they have space rockets and they are part of the ISS
where you want to go with this without any disrespect to you
i just want to understand more what you meaned
thanks

well, i rebuild my question if nasa can make spacecraft for flight to the Moon, what's problem to make spacecraft for tasks in orbits around the Earth?

Originally posted by DoomsdayRex

Originally posted by Ben81
why now they are coming clean with whatreallyhappened 40 yrs later

Please provide a single quote from a single astronaut, direct and sourced, not hearsay, rumor or a transcript of a non-existent transmission, claiming they either hoaxed the moon landing or saw aliens on the moon.

with all the posts i have made providing stuff including all my "speculations" you still ask me for facts .. lol
it shows me you didnt read me at all

Originally posted by SarK0Y

Originally posted by Ben81

what do you mean ??
like the apollo 11 space craft they used suposedly on the moon ??
where is it ?
i dont get the russian part :puzz:
yes they have space rockets and they are part of the ISS
where you want to go with this without any disrespect to you
i just want to understand more what you meaned
thanks

well, i rebuild my question

if nasa can make spacecraft for flight to the Moon, what's problem to make spacecraft for tasks in orbits around the Earth?

if nasa can make spacecraft for flight to the Moon :
yes i agree they do make spacecraft for flight to the moon

what's problem to make spacecraft for tasks in orbits around the Earth?:
i didnt get that question ...
the white navette serve for tasks around earth orbit .. what problem do you speak of ??

im french so maybe my english skills are not that perfect after all lol
and thats why i cant understand you clearly

Originally posted by Ben81
with all the posts i have made providing stuff including all my "speculations" you still ask me for facts ..

Because you are treating speculation as fact, and I am showing why that speculation is baseless.

We have provided everything; you have refused to even acknowledge this. And you call us closed-minded.

May I disagree ?

MMN has provided some info.

Your contribution has been a link to "Skeptoid"...not really unbiased is it?...

Another highly regarded member has contributed with a Santa Claus joke...

C'mon Rex, the rest has been debating Ben's opinions WITHOUT facts...

So if his opinions are debatable without facts, why wouldn't anyone else's be?

Two to tango.



There has been multiple posts and videos about astronauts discussing UFOs, on this very thread. Or maybe I'm missing something...

reply to post by DoomsdayRex


since you like to avoid the thread subject
i have to tell you .. your new avatar is disturbing
if its you in there ..
remember when you told me i had some severe mental delusion ... ?
the photo of the guy in your avatar... i dont know what it supose to be .. a vampire ?? or a evil demon from supernatural .. but it look like someone who suffer from heavy mental dark delusions ...
im sensing your avatar represent yourself pretty well .. its not a compliment but still respectfull
since you put it there .. it will be a compliment to you
you look to be a extremelly negatif person in general life
im i right ??
thats another speculation but since im always wrong dont bother

did you chew someone off or what ... maybe a poor rabbit
was it for haloween of a deguisment for a homemade movie ??
your other avatar was less disturbing thats for sure

i meaned no disrespect by the way just curious
lets continu on the thread subject ...
answer me those questions and i will be able to answer your critics that you think i dont provide facts

do you beleive the moon landing mission was faked ?
do you beleive the astronauts who told that the moon had aliens bases on it??
do you beleive in aliens ???
if you answer these...
i will be able to reply you .. so far i know nothing from you except your usual negatives critic that are borderline to respect

peace my friend ..
its only a debate because they are still speculations..
there will be no debate if it was the actual real facts


[edit on 8/30/2010 by Ben81]

reply to post by Ben81

i didnt get that question ...

hmmmm...... that was simple sentence well, i simplify to minimal sentence: to fly to the Moon is more hard than to fly to the Earth orbits. you got it, didn't you? why they have not most advanced spacecraft in the World to fly to the earth orbits. Where is the Logic??

reply to post by SarK0Y


i fully agree with the first half

why they have not most advanced spacecraft in the World to fly to the earth orbits. Where is the Logic??

for me everything that goes to space is highly advanced
of course they cant go to the moon with the white navette made for orbit taks...thats why they have to use a rocket with different modules
they are both highly advanced to comply with their job
one that goes to the moon and one that do orbit jobs
each of them have really different kind of advanced tech
but the rocket that goes to the moon is more advanced than the navette
and thats my speculations .. i mean opinions

I have seen the OP stray from the OT several times only answering questions about the OT with speculative information, indirect quotes stating that they can believe the astronauts about aliens in transcripts not directly from the source, but can not believe them about the moon landings themselves taken from direct quotes from the source.

The OP is very contradictory to what information he chooses to believe.

It has been extremely hard to follow along, and does not help in the search for the truth in the least.

I am going to ask if you have direct voice recordings of the astronauts discussing the alien situation and their dealings with them and not just hearsay or indirect quotes and transcripts.

reply to post by Ben81

for me everything that goes to space is highly advanced of course they cant go to the moon with the white navette made for orbit taks...thats why they have to use a rocket with different modules they are both highly advanced to comply with their job one that goes to the moon and one that do orbit jobs each of them have really different kind of advanced tech but the rocket that goes to the moon is more advanced than the navette and thats my speculations .. i mean opinions

oh, it's just like:

I can run for 10 kilometers w\o respites, but I cannot walk 100 meters w\o respites.

couldn't you think there ain't logic??

reply to post by AlienCarnage


i guess thats why this thread have been created to show what did i found interesting on the aliens subject...
i have shared my opinions and speculations
provided some statements from astronauts
prpvided a video from our ex defense minister of Canada
even a video of a ghostbuster guy
cant tell you if they are the real deal and speak the truth because they have actual proof in their hands ...
i would have to phone Armstrong myself to be sure the statements from the transmission are credibles...
audio transmission would be a excellent proof to ..
but i dont have those transmissions .. if i found them i will post them here
i dont hide any truth i only want the truth

reply to post by AlienCarnage


Here's your direct quote from Gordon Cooper. You can even watch him while he speaks because its a video.. That means you can listen to his exact words AND watch him speak with your eyes. Cool huh?




[edit on 30-8-2010 by rajaten]

reply to post by SarK0Y


I can run for 10 kilometers w\o respites, but I cannot walk 100 meters w\o respites


10 km would be a 10000 meters run :O
100 meters run is more like it

its logic that the white navette would be less advanced than the moon rocket
but its not the case both have different high tech components
that cost differently
i think in russia the tech is the same but are less expensive
in USA everything is expensive ahah

reply to post by rajaten


yayayayay hitgirl have COME BACK
i wish i could train a little girl like her
i would be a proud father LOL

EDIT:
about your vid ... thanks .. they are awesome
the thread have ten of those audio and video fact
with astronauts statements
about someone credible
telling us the truth about aliens
im sure people will keep screaming
THIS THREAD HAVE NO FACTS
but euhh.. i presume ATS need some close minded peoples to put actions in debates

just lol

[edit on 8/30/2010 by Ben81]

Originally posted by Ben81

Open your minds, do you really think this is all there is to it? We go about our daily lives, get set into our mundane routines, self medicate with food, drugs, TV or sex to forget the stress of our days. When “Full Disclosure” happens, and it is in process now, I hope people are reading and paying attention to “Page 7” and not the catch phrase headlines that they pay people too much money to come up with.

If you pay attention, open your mind to any and all possibilities, you just might know what to do and when to do it to preserve what is your birthright, your freedom, your life and your family’s lives. We have to change, and by now we have learned that you have to want to change for it to happen.

A official disclosure will happen before 2012..
to many people have come to the truth...beginning to questions everything in life...
some people know that truth ... they have tell us ...
and some will still dont listen..

the populations will only accept the truth on this that Aliens do exist .. is :
1) we saw some alien before our eyes
2) only a official statement from the white house will be accepted to be the real true deal about Aliens

no threads and no ones (even some old guys who walked on the moon) wont satisfy the mind exigence about this issue
we know it plausible ... and for now its only a speculation...
is it ? ...

www.ufodigest.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

 

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[edit on 30/8/2010 by ArMaP]

fantastic grammar, there, kudos.
FYI, hes not "some old dude," he is a man who has been involved with NASA and government experiments etc, so he would have information on what is happening in this world that has to do with contact with extraterrestrials. now whether he is telling the truth or not is up for you to decide, but keep in mind that he has a level of importance and has more knowledge about this than you.

Originally posted by SonoftheSun
Your contribution has been a link to "Skeptoid"...not really unbiased is it?...

Bias does not make something wrong; it is right or wrong on its own merits, not the bias of the author.

Originally posted by SonoftheSun
C'mon Rex, the rest has been debating Ben's opinions WITHOUT facts...

No, we haven't been debating without facts. We have been demonstrating faults in his logic; those are facts.

Originally posted by SonoftheSun
There has been multiple posts and videos about astronauts discussing UFOs, on this very thread. Or maybe I'm missing something...

Yes, you are missing something. There is a difference between a UFO sighting and first-hand knowledge of an alien presence on Earth. Why is that so hard to comprehend? It is not a difficult concept to grasp.

May I recommend this video...

Some of the stuff in there has been debunked and it is NOT the purpose of this post.

The purpose is Ed Mitchell. Listen carefully. There are other gems in there as well...enjoy




Ed Mitchell. Astronaut. Discussing UFOs and much more...