Jackie Kennedy was MK Ultra Victim, aka Manchurian Candidate; Unconsciously Shot JFK in the Throat

reply to post by VirginiaRisesYetAgain


I read a PDF with this info years ago and was stunned. Who would ever believe...

Thanks for posting.

The thing that struck me was the calm expression on her face - not even a flinch when JFK's head exploded, just like the (CIA?) men standing in the background. Even when people are in a state of shock, and not showing much expression, at least their eyes will have a horror struck stare. (Compare people who are in the process of walking out of a bombing scene).

Another thing that stood out was the fluency of Jackie's movements, as if they were either well rehearsed or routine. People move like that when they open their fridge at home, work at a conveyor belt etc.

It doesn't wash with me that she was either in a state of shock or panicking.

Originally posted by bekod
reply to post by VirginiaRisesYetAgain

 

good work and the nerve to post this, it is one possibility but one that will not get far, as i review the videos, there is no gun in her hand , secondly he is shot 2 times once from the back and once from the right temple side just above the eye. my guess would be a 30-06 sabot round 25 to 36 grain not much more than that.



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o yeah didnt think about that til you said something. i seen headshots with handguns. all shapes all sizes. no way anything can leave a hole in jfk like that from a handgun

Originally posted by ATS4dummies
You FAIL.
timeline = 12 second mark: Frame 242

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Agreed...this film shows that the first bullet comes directly from the near side of the vehicle. Jacki has nothing in her hands and is wearing gloves so it is plain to see.

sorry...try again!

I've never really read much into the JFK assassination , or even looked at the evidence much . All I know is the US government still continue to lie about it and withold evidence from the american people.

That in itself is just as criminal as taking the life of the president.

Do any of you here ever think the truth will be revealed about the assassination , or do you think this will remain one of america's greatest mysteries ?

reply to post by EnkiCarbone


It is my understanding that in most, if not all, American states, one cannot slander (or libel) the dead. The purpose of slander and libel laws are to protect one's reputation. Obviously Jackie cannot sue and neither can her heirs. The site that claimed she killed her husband may be uncouth, but neither the site nor the poster who made this thread have done anything wrong under the law.

Again regarding intelligence agencies, even the House Committee believed the CIA lied and obstructed justice. The CIA has killed many people around the world. This is not libel, it is the truth. There is nothing wrong with questioning its possible culpability in the death of JFK.

It is clear you admired Kennedy and Jackie. You may find this thread odious, but it is not doing anything wrong.

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reply to post by X9ballX


This is the first time I have ever cared to view the video with that much attention to detail. I'm certainly no expert, but have had plenty of trigger time. The video looks like an exit wound blowing out the upper-front-right of his head (away from the OP-alleged CIA suits). Definitely a high-powered rifle round, reminds me exactly of a 30-06 or even a .308 exit wound. It is very possible that a handgun at close proximity could replicate the effects, but it would have to be a .44, .45 or .50 within arms-reach of his noggin.

LHO likely shot President Kennedy (rest in peace). If you want to speculate about CIA/NSA-operated mind-control with the former Marine, then its a bit more believable.

I have followed the JFK assassinatio since this tragedy occurred in '63. I encourage everyone to checkout the website adamsjfk.com. This website was put together by a retired FBI agent Don Adams who was participating in investigating people implicated in particular a character called Joseph Adams Milteer who publicly bragged how and where the assassination would occur.
I would also do a google on the words "I shot JFK". This will take you to a website with many interesting links. This site was put together by a Dutch Journalist who did a documentary called I shot JFK. It features a man called James Files who is currently doing time for attempting to shoot an FBI agent. Files has nothing to gain, either monetarily or in trying to get parole for his confession. The FBI visited Files in prison and this is documented. Prior to his arrest and conviction Files, claims two attempts were made on his life by agents and a firefight with a pair of agents led to his incarceration. He claims he was helping two Chicago hitmen; one Johnny Roselli and the other Charles Nicoletti. Files claims to have fired the fatal headshot and described the weapon he used and the fact that he bit the shell casing that came from the gun before fleeing the scene at the grassy knoll. In the late 90's this casing was found. It was the calibre that Files claimed and had teeth marks in it. He gave a vivid description of the point from where he took his shot.
The video suggests "I Shot JFK" suggests that there were lots of motives like, pulling out of Viet Nam, firing of Alan Dulles head of the CIA, annoying J. Edgar Hoover and a high ranking Pentagon general , screwing up the Bay of Pigs operation and the Mob who were hurt by Kennedy dropping the ball on a Cuban invasion. Unfortunately he left out the bankers who were upset by Kennedy's decision to issue currency directly from the Treasury. Files claimed he lost friends in the Bay of Pigs fiasco and hated JFK for that.
Files also claims he had the same CIA handler as Lee Harvey Oswald and officer Tippet was taken out by another hitman looking for Oswald. Oswald then had to be taken out by Jack Ruby to keep him from disclosing what he knew. Anyone who doubts there is a tie in between the CIA and Mob is in denial. I strongly suggest you study this material.

Originally posted by Dogdish
reply to post by bekod

 

Witnesses on the scene said there was an entry wound on his left temple.

I wish I had time to link this for you, but already late for work.


To those not familiar (enough) with MK Ultra, an in depth investigation by you is in order. It may change your view on quite a few events in the past.

One other thing; no one has mentioned Bush Sr's oil company in the Caribbean or his purported involvement in the sabotage of the Bay of Pigs invasion. The CIA did not like JFK, and would have used any resource, in my opinion.

umm i looked at his autopsy photos and saw nothing. www.celebritymorgue.com...

reply to post by cayrichard


My dear friend.

That music made me jump, wasnt expecting that

Many thanks indeed for your input and recommendation on the website you provided. I will watch the interviews this evening

Be safe be well,

Spiro

Originally posted by Shark VA84
reply to post by X9ballX

 

This is the first time I have ever cared to view the video with that much attention to detail. I'm certainly no expert, but have had plenty of trigger time. The video looks like an exit wound blowing out the upper-front-right of his head (away from the OP-alleged CIA suits). Definitely a high-powered rifle round, reminds me exactly of a 30-06 or even a .308 exit wound. It is very possible that a handgun at close proximity could replicate the effects, but it would have to be a .44, .45 or .50 within arms-reach of his noggin.

LHO likely shot President Kennedy (rest in peace). If you want to speculate about CIA/NSA-operated mind-control with the former Marine, then its a bit more believable.

i dont think .50 was available at that time. and 45 acp,and 45 lc wouldn't do that. 44 mag seems corect for the period.

its most likley a rifle.

reply to post by X9ballX

then you never went hunting with an 30-06? this is a head wound caused by a high velocity round, some are devastators, penetrators, or most comely known as sabot rounds.

Originally posted by bekod
reply to post by X9ballX

 

then you never went hunting with an 30-06? this is a head wound caused by a high velocity round, some are devastators, penetrators, or most comely known as sabot rounds.

Nope never. but I have done research on weapons and ammo. i support an earlier post on the use of a high powered rifle.

reply to post by X9ballX


Would the entry wound or the exit wound be larger if it was a 30-06 round?

Originally posted by SmedleyBurlap
reply to post by X9ballX

 

Would the entry wound or the exit wound be larger if it was a 30-06 round?

exit

reply to post by X9ballX


Then the killshot certainly could not have come from the front and to the right, as that is where the largest hole in Kennedy's head is; the entry wound must be somewhere else.

Hmm, this could be some kind of connection?

Originally posted by filosophia
While the president of the United States is getting shot, the guy in red in front of Jackie is hiding underneath a green plant. Out of all the bizarre things surrounding JFK's assassination, that has to take the cake.

I haven't seen this page before and am most of the way down the first page, but had to post this. In all the times I've seen the Zapruder film I've never noticed the guy in red in front of Jackie in the car hiding behind the big bouquet of roses. (or a green plant that somehow got into the car, more likely her roses). I lol when I watched it after reading this post and there he was, (EDIT:She - it was Mrs. Connelly) covering himself up with a big bushy green plant. It tells me once again (as if we have to be reminded) how much we miss every mini-second of the day. Thanks for the great thread too. I'll post further when something else pops us.

so how are we gonna kill him boys ?

have jackie do it with a derringer

good plan !

Jackie did not do it, sad that she would even be considered. I hate this thread title and wish it would go away with it's hurtful and disrespectful slander against a great woman who has suffered far too much in this life already.