Jackie Kennedy was MK Ultra Victim, aka Manchurian Candidate; Unconsciously Shot JFK in the Throat

JFK was shot at by 3 to 5 professional snipers.

Any in-the-limo shooters theory is fantasy.

There was no way JFK was going to survive that cruise through Dealey Plaza. Too many expert marksmen were assembled in surrounding locations and at least three of them were given the green light to take a shot. The fatal hit from the grassy knoll area was the contingency backup if the first two shooters failed to score a fatal hit. The grassy knoll shooter was given the go ahead to open fire when spotters on the sidewalk observed that another shot was needed.

"Oswald" (not his real identity) thought he was working as an undercover agent for both the FBI and the CIA, but he was only being set up to be the fall guy. He was in position in some room of the TSBD waiting for more instructions from his handler when he suddenly realized he was in trouble.

The plan may have been for an agent working on the inside of local law enforcement to gun down "Oswald" inside the TSBD moments after the hit on JFK. That would have tied a bow on a nice, neat little package. But instead of being silenced inside the TSBD, "Oswald" fled the scene and probably contacted one of his handlers who told him to meet up at the Texas movie theater. He never shot Tippett. He never shot anyone.

Ruby was assigned to silence "Oswald" ASAP.

In my opinion, "Oswald" and "Marina" were Nazi Lebensborn orphans who were imported after the war, given false identities and cultivated/trained by CIA to be agents in sleeper cells ready for activation as needed. "Oswald" never went to Russia and neither did "Marina" --- all that coming and going involving the Soviet Union was faked.

Many of the key players in the plot and coverup were like actors playing roles. The whole thing was like a deadly stage play. The only thing that went wrong was that they failed to snuff "Oswald" at the TSBD moments after JFK got the fatal shot. If they had been able to silence Oswald at the scene of the assassination, everyone would have believed that JFK's killer was a crazed shooter and law enforcement gunned him down in self defense. The case would have been closed at that point. But it got a little messy when "Oswald" split the scene and tried to contact "friendlies" in the underground, domestic, black ops units he was familiar with, but it turned out that they all wanted him to be the patsy.

The assassin who fired the fatal shot on JFK was in a fake police uniform and is one of the "officers" toting guns who escorted three hobos from the railroad switching yard right through Dealey Plaza in front of reporters and cameras in the aftermath. These guys were CIA decoys and one of the uniformed officers was the actual assassin. It was the perfect cover for getting the real assassin and his weapon out of the immediate area.

Just my opinions.

This is pretty interesting. After watching the video several times, something I noticed that nobody I think as mentioned so far is...


Right after the damage to his head, I noticed Jackie (as she's rising/ at same time reaches down) brings both hands together as if to "collect" something and give it to the secret service guy towards the rear trunk.

The secret service guy almost looks like he 'took it' but was also trying to give it back. As if to say "no you hold on to this for now".

Then towards the end of the video the secret service guy "looks to be standing on rear bumper" uses his left hand and puts something in his pocket.

Is it me or am I seeing things? It does look as if Jackie "collects" something with both hands and wants to give it to the secret service guy. Almost looks like the object 'slips' out of her hands, but then disappears.

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The 'man in red' covering up with a plant , is actually the 'woman' in red , Nellie Connally , wife of Gov. Connally .

Still curious though , that she is holding a plant . Where did it come from and why was it not placed in the trunk , if it was a gift from someone ? I always assumed SS took possesion of gifts and such , for examination ?

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I beg differ the accounts of what blew open JFKs head/throat. Your theory is quite strange because jackie was very honest to him. She doesnt or cant snitch for fear of her life because she is the only one who really knows what happened. The Zapruder film you have posted is missing a big portion of the pie, at least from the one i've seen.

In the Original Zapruder video, from a farther angle, @ 1:05-1:08 blatantly shows THE DRIVER whip out a SHINY colt45 or another silver plated weapon of your choice and blasts his skull to kingdom come. Jackie Kennedy tried to escape the motorcade because she knew her husband's dead and saw that she was next for being an eye witness. The secret service jumped on the car to prevent her from escaping..

3shots, different angles. Planned execution. Hell no it wasn't Oswald..


and his brother too. Rest In Peace
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Thanks for this thread and the links in your OP.

There are quite a few things, one of them being Jackie and her marriage to Onassis, that seem to point to more than just the 'usual' conspiracy theories concerning this case.

It was still a shock to find this thread, and It's sure that this theory will continue to be flamed, out of shock; and the need for most to protect the powerless widow.

However...

This theory solves another problem that I've wrestled with, and that is:
JFK's Autopsy Photos.

If you've ever shot a melon, you'll be able to see where the fatal shot came from, in these photographs.

edit to add: I wasn't aware of Jackie's extended 'vacation' with Onassis prior to this event, until reading your links. I'll be spending a lot of time on the computer today.

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That's similar to what I was thinking. So many groups wanted Kennedy dead, or had a motive to do it. Maybe they all sent their wn assassin, and all tried to kill him, with only one being ultimately successful.

edit: There may have been more than three assassins; just because three shots were heard doesn't mean there were no more killers waiting in the wings. They just had no reason to shoot once they saw his head explode!

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It's called triangulation. A military triangulation assassination is the most effective means of assuring a kill on an assassination victim.

JFK was a surprise to the PTB and wasn't supposed to have been elected. Which is also as to why he was rubbed out.

Nixon was the PTB Puppet, who also was supportive of the launching of the full scale war in Vietnam.

The fact that JFK had issued an executive order to return the printing of money back to the US Constitutionally ordained US Treasury points back to the Zionists/Neocons/Usurers who have us in a proverbial financial headlock even today, with our recent "Banking Crisis" and now an economic depression.




This is exactly why I cannot waste time debating, tit for tat, about 9/11.

For if one simply follows US history, and our assassinated Presidents, as well as who historically has had control of our money.

As well as who dictates our bubble economies based upon the availability of money.

It all predictably points to EXACTLY what we are seeing today.

As well as exactly why Andrew Jackson was so adamant about preventing the acquisition to the control of our Money by The European Bankers.

Noticed a couple of posts that are referring to J.O. as though she is still alive ?

Jacqueline Lee Bouvier Kennedy Onassis passed away May 19,1994 .

Originally posted by byteshertz
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I agree, upon rewatching this clip this was exactly first thing I notice, JFK went from a totally relaxed position to a position where his sholders hunch upwards and his arms shoot up to cover his mouth, a very defensive position - as if preparing to be sick was my impression. He then slumps foward and the shot is taken. I dont know enough details to draw conclusions but this suggests to me something else was going on.

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You can see the blood pour out his mouth across jackies white glove.

Just watch slowly. play and pause every frame and you will see it.

That means at least 2 shots.

Has anyone everthought of something being built into the car ?

The still shot of Jackie's upraised arm is AFTER JFK was mortally wounded.

Watch the video and you will see in real time that arm raised BEFORE. She then grabs his elbow with both hands and looks into his face.

Hunt said that LBJ ordered it and that he (HH) and fellow Dallas 'tramp' FRANK STURGIS and veteran spook, David Atlee Phillips and Colonel Ed Lansdale were all part of the team but it was famed CIA Yalie, blue-blood high society spook CORD MEYER with his internat'l connections (and his wife in JFK's BED as the official mistress!) and Cord's Sister In Law married to WASHINGTON POST EDITOR BEN BRADLEE!!! who was the head of the operation and went offshore and hired Corsican LUCIEN SARTI the sharpshooter who did the actual work. And not from that window in Dealey Plaza!

www.masterjules.net...

There were 4 shots, crossfire, and obviously the hired killers, as I read elsewhere, were themselves killed, as were many witnesses along Elm Street.

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Why does his hair move like that???

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I am disappointed, conspiracy theorists are supposed to look beyond the orthodoxies presented to them, and think outside of the box! Your orthodox history of events that says it was military triangulation ignores the possibility that there were many assassins, each with the own handler, representing a different cabal of conspirators. That is far more exciting and also more realistic than a massive, concerted effort by a nigh-omnipotent 'Powers that Be'.

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Since 242 was a few seconds earlier she still had time to take out a gun, and frame 326 is still too vague to determine that she doesn't have a small revolver or pistol in her hand.

Dude, was it a custom made revolver/handgun that was modified to shoot 30-06 rounds?

A hand gun powerful enough to do that kind of damage to JFK's head would rip Jackies arm off and deliver on hell of a report.

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Maybe Kennedy Killed HIMSELF. In one of the frames it appears that he is fixing his tie....or pulling a gun out of his shirt to which Jackie reacts, "John What are you doing" BANG he pulls the trigger. He was under MK-ULTRA control. Maybe the CIA made him an offer he couldn't refuse. You DIE or your Family DIES. Years later when his family tried to investigate ie John Jr. and Bobbie. They met the same fate. Hows that for a conspiracy theory!

Surprising. Still haven't seen anyone post anything about Lincoln.

Yeah, Lincoln. Remember how many insane "coincidences" there were, similarities between the two assassinations?

One of the theories is that Mary Todd Lincoln actually killed her husband.

She was apparently a drug addict. Booth was her supplier.

Lots to this, but one of the most interesting things is that Lincoln's wife was put virtually under house arrest afterward, while Congress sorted it all out.

Congress, like the Warren Commission. Mrs. Lincoln, blowing her husband's head off, with a pistol, as he rested his head in her lap.

Yes, she officially went insane, convenient.

Anyway, could we have yet another bizarre parallel between the Lincoln, and Kennedy assassinations?

JR

Originally posted by Gloster
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Why does his hair move like that???

...because he is in a convertable car (no roof), and the car is moving causing the air and other currents to move his hair in odd unpredictable ways.

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Originally posted by lonestranger
This is pretty interesting. After watching the video several times, something I noticed that nobody I think as mentioned so far is...


Right after the damage to his head, I noticed Jackie (as she's rising/ at same time reaches down) brings both hands together as if to "collect" something and give it to the secret service guy towards the rear trunk.

The secret service guy almost looks like he 'took it' but was also trying to give it back. As if to say "no you hold on to this for now".

Then towards the end of the video the secret service guy "looks to be standing on rear bumper" uses his left hand and puts something in his pocket.

Is it me or am I seeing things? It does look as if Jackie "collects" something with both hands and wants to give it to the secret service guy. Almost looks like the object 'slips' out of her hands, but then disappears.

When presidents are.. husbands are shot, their wives gasp in awe and cup their 2 hands and cover their mouths. That's the expression for 'OMG'.

The secret service guy was not trying to steal part of JFK's brain membrane, although he probably could have gotten a few $1,000,000 for it from a mad scientist who wanted to clone JFK..

And as for the secret service guy pocketing JFK's wallet...Perhaps he was reaching for his firearm, I mean someone just shot the president...

Lets not get to carried away with these funny scenarios. Lets think logic!

I find your research completely without any tangible merit, completely speculative, and completely offensive. I really, honestly think you're trolling.

1. Where is the evidence about Jackie O being used as a suggestible agent? 2. The video shows nothing remotely as you describe. Not even by a longshot. 3. Oh, nice Blogspot by the way, ... great references, again.

I am really just surprised at the lack of outrage in this thread. I know the internet is fun, when you can just "say things" from your basement lair, but you should really use some discretion before besmirching the name of our 35th President, and his family. It's nice that you can so easily talk ill of the dead. Do you care? I doubt it.
This is without a doubt: completely insulting to our intelligences, slanderous to Jackie O, the Onassis family, to the Kennedy family, and to the American Public.

It is ASTOUNDING to me that you can get a 2 week password-reset hell account lockup around here for saying something that rubs a mod the wrong way, but trolling with this kind hoax is A-OK and allowed to persist without a ban.

ATS = amazing. Just. .... amazing!

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Originally posted by EnkiCarbone


It is ASTOUNDING to me that you can get a 2 week password-reset hell account lockup around here for saying something that rubs a mod the wrong way, but trolling with this kind hoax is A-OK and allowed to persist without a ban.

Hmmmm, it sounds like you may have a personal beef that still causes you stress.....breathe....did you see the forum this was in?
That's right: Skunk Works. This is the correct place for such a thread which plies the fringes of our understanding and explores possible new scenarios.

Originally posted by aorAki

Originally posted by EnkiCarbone


It is ASTOUNDING to me that you can get a 2 week password-reset hell account lockup around here for saying something that rubs a mod the wrong way, but trolling with this kind hoax is A-OK and allowed to persist without a ban.

Hmmmm, it sounds like you may have a personal beef that still causes you stress.....breathe....did you see the forum this was in?
That's right: Skunk Works. This is the correct place for such a thread which plies the fringes of our understanding and explores possible new scenarios.

So, Skunk Works: A place to make slanderous accusations. Got it. Thanks for the heads up!