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Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by AidanK
Sorry to say that you just do not lose your religion like that, if you are doubtful about your religious believes it means you never had them very strong to Begin with.
Originally posted by defcon5
Actually thinking for ourselves was what got us into trouble to begin with.
Originally posted by endlessknowledge
Are you serious??? You really don't see the problem with this comment???
Originally posted by endlessknowledge
Okay, so lets just say thinking for ourselves is bad and we should only listen to god through the bible...WHO DO YOU THINK WROTE THE DAMN THINK??? god himself??? NO it was man who wrote it, and according to you man has been sinning since the beginning, right?? So what makes you think that when writing the bible he was sin free and basically wrote only what god wanted??? What makes you think that the sinful man didn't write the bible to MANIPULATE others for power???
Originally posted by endlessknowledge
And "Adam died in his 900's" ...sorry but I can't even get in to this because...I"M ROLLING ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING..come on man, were you there yourself to verify this or is that from the book that tells you not to think???
According to the Genealogies of Genesis, Adam died at the age of 930. With such numbers, calculations such as those of Archbishop Ussher would suggest that Adam would have died only about 127 years before the birth of Noah, nine generations after Adam. In other words, Adam's lifespan would have overlapped Lamech (the father of Noah) at least fifty years. Ussher and a group of theologians and scholars in 1630 performed calculations and created a study that reported the creation of Adam on October 23, 4004 BC at 9:00 am and lived to 3074 BC. There was controversy over the fact that Ussher believed the whole creation process occurred on that day.
Enquiry into the evolution of ageing aims to explain why almost all living things weaken and die with age. There is not yet agreement in the scientific community on a single answer. The evolutionary origin of senescence remains a fundamental unsolved problem in biology.
Historically, ageing was first likened to "wear and tear": living bodies get weaker just as with use a knife's edge becomes dulled or with exposure to air and moisture iron objects rust. But this idea was discredited in the 19th century when the second law of thermodynamics was formalized. Entropy (disorder) must increase inevitably within a closed system, but living beings are not closed systems. It is a defining feature of life that it takes in free energy from the environment and unloads its entropy as waste. Living systems can even build themselves up from seed, and routinely repair themselves. There is no thermodynamic necessity for senescence. In addition, generic damage or "wear and tear" theories could not explain why biologically similar organisms (e.g. mammals) exhibited such dramatically different life spans.
Originally posted by endlessknowledge
If god gave us free will, aren't we suppose to use our brain to choose.
Originally posted by endlessknowledge
BTW, is there any chance you were force fed this nonsense as a child before the age you could critically think??? I'm will to bet you were.
Originally posted by CHA0S
I am also agnostic, and I would urge you to listen to the words of the above poster. However, isn't it perhaps a little arrogant to blame "God" when we turn this planet into a living hell?
Originally posted by AidanK
I've been a lifelong member of the Roman Catholic church. I always believed in God and have prayed daily just like I was taught in my youth. Lately, the economy has tanked, my mother's health has taken a turn for the worse and things just generally stink - very badly.
I watch the nightly news and see nothing but bad news and disasters befalling humanity around the globe. I really can't believe it but for the first time I'm starting to question how this can be. How can my loving God allow these things to happen?
I have almost stopped praying for anything. I no longer believe that anyone is listening. I have always been taught that God answers ALL prayers, even if we might not like the answer but I must say that why MUST the answer ALWAYS be NO?? I don't constantly ask for things, just a little help with life.
I guess I'm about at my breaking point and floundering for help. Can anyone provide any advice here? Many thanks to you all.
Originally posted by Faiol
Originally posted by CHA0S
I am also agnostic, and I would urge you to listen to the words of the above poster. However, isn't it perhaps a little arrogant to blame "God" when we turn this planet into a living hell?
lol, maybe, but if "GOD" really made us, why would he make such a flawled creature? most people are literally crazy, its hard to find good people nowadays
is our fault that we act like ANIMALS? we are not suppose to be much superior to other species ... thats the truth, we are just like them
for some crazy evolutionary process, we are smarter, but our instincts are still strong
thats how I can explain why our world is $#%&$¨¨&$1
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by AidanK
Sorry to say that you just do not lose your religion like that, if you are doubtful about your religious believes it means you never had them very strong to Begin with.
Our religious believes are passed to us by our family, usually the first knowledge about a God is learned earlier in life from your parents.
We are no born with a religious denomination, or political affiliation this are given to us as choices depending our closes family members own believes.
As we grow up and learn more on our own we tend to make our own choices. . .
Originally posted by defcon5
Originally posted by endlessknowledge
If god gave us free will, aren't we suppose to use our brain to choose.
Yes, but we are not supposed to second guess things that God himself has directly told us. That is lack of faith in God.
Originally posted by AidanK
I really can't believe it but for the first time I'm starting to question how this can be. How can my loving God allow these things to happen?