Hitler 'had Jewish and African roots', DNA tests show

Originally posted by lucid eyes
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

What you're saying is that Jews started WWWII and exterminated themselves in order to have a pretext to found the state of Israel.

Your post is one of the most hateful I have ever read on ATS and you're masking it as some kind of "cool conspiracy theory".

:shk:

No reread the post, what I said is the Rothschild Family and the Bankers did.

That's not hateful, as they conspire to do a lot of things.

Ever check your credit card statement?

Duh!

There is also a tremendous amount of evidence to support this "Not Cool" Conspiracy theory, and frankly if I was Jewish, I would leave no stone unturned in a relentless pursuit to find out what really happened.

Lot's of history though has been swept under the rug, because some people think intelligently investigating history is hateful!

Just to clear up the rather shoddy telegraph article (what else to expect?)

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Belgian journalist Jean-Paul Mulders conducted these DNA tests in order to finally give the last word on the myth of "Hitler's son".

From Wiki:

en.wikipedia.org...

In 2008, the Belgian journalist Jean-Paul Mulders found the definitive solution to this enigma. He traveled to Germany, Austria, France and the United States to collect DNA of the Lorets and of the last living relatives of Hitler in Austria and on Long Island. By comparing this, Mulders could prove that Jean-Marie Loret was not the son of Adolf Hitler. He was also able to weaken the myth that Hitler had a Jewish grandfather.

The results of his research were published in Het Laatste Nieuws, Belgium's largest newspaper. In February 2009 a book on this subject has been published by Herbig Verlag in Munich: Auf der Suche nach Hitlers Sohn - Eine Beweisaufnahme. The news was picked-up by several international media, including Daily Mail, USA Today, Bild, Hürriyet and China Daily.

" He was also able to weaken the myth that Hitler had a Jewish grandfather"

So you have a book that is essentially dedicated to finding out the true nature of the story about Hitlers son and while doing that he was able to discredit the stories of Hitlers jewish ancestry. Then comes the Telegraph and spins this as a "Hitler was Jewish" story. How dishonest can you get? Seriously.



[edit on 24-8-2010 by NichirasuKenshin]

Since the results are based on Hitler having E1b1b1 haplotype, i fail to see why the conclusion is so definite. Jews (Ashkenazi and Sephardi) have this haplotype only in 20 percent of population. Every 5th. What if Rotchild do not have it?

It is less common in Germans, but still, 6 percent of German population have this haplotype. All Jews?
In Morocco for example 80 to 90 percent of population have this haplotype.
Here is link that shows ethnic distribution of this gene type (and other markers too):
en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Please refer to my earlier post quoting the Israeli minister.
According to the Israeli minister "anti semitism" and "hate" are tricks they always use to stifle debate..
As you have just had done to you.

Zionism was supported by the German SS and Gestapo.[3] [4] [5] [6] Hitler himself personally supported Zionism.[7] [8] During the 1930’s, in cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some 40 camps throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. As late as 1942 Zionists operated at least one of these officially authorized “Kibbutz” training camps[9] over which flew the blue and white banner which would one day be adopted as the national flag of “Israel”.[10]

www.jewsagainstzionism.com...

the Zionists hate to have the provable truth discussed:
the above is from "Jews against Zionism"- an impeccably researched and documented Jewish site.





[edit on 24-8-2010 by Danbones]

reply to post by Danbones




Oh I know the tactics very disengenous ones, as the poster in question not long ago made a thread that theorized people in New Orleans and Haiti had suffered tragedy for a few of them dabbling in voodoo.

So in reality its a political ploy and not a moral stance.

It does make you wonder though the politics of why so many people have been programmed to shut down any debate or discussion regarding the real events of World War II and World I as it pertains to World War II.

Like 9-11 the political landscape could change radically and for the worse for some if the real details were ever really aired.

You can't murder the truth though, it's always out there, and nothing will ever stop those dedicated to finding it from doing so.

Thanks.



[edit on 24/8/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]

I have no reason to believe Hitler was other than he is generally presented in "straight" history: A cruel dictator who perpetrated a horrible war and the holocaust. I have no reason to believe the Holocaust never happened, or that Hitler was part of some overarching zionist conspiracy, etc. Until and unless I get convincing evidence to the contrary, the "straight story" in its basic outline seems the most likely to me.

But the topic will be frought with controversy as long as Hitler is surrounded by taboo. He has become a symbol more than an actual historical figure, and this creates distortion. Fear and emotion, rather than reason, clouds most people's understanding of the topic. History only functions properly when it is conducted with a reasonable amount of objectivity. Even 65 years after Hitler's death, for various reasons the topic is still too emotionally charged and politically loaded for a clear view to emerge. It's a shame, because in the absence of a clearheaded view, grotesque distortions are bound to take hold of the fevered human imagination. And when current political concerns impinge upon the study of a historical figure, the truth will be distorted all around.

I for one thought it was common knowledge Hitler was a Jew.

Originally posted by PApro
I for one thought it was common knowledge Hitler was a Jew.

If you would have read the thread you would know that it's neither common knowledge nor has this disgustingly spun telegraph article portrayed the findings of said journalist in an honest way (his conclusion was the opposite)...

But anyway... I guess anything goes, whatever the facts?

[edit on 24-8-2010 by NichirasuKenshin]

I do often wonder how Hitler could have come to power, he was a low ranking Corporal, foot soldier in WWI. He wasn't a glorious or heroic combat veteran but was fairly ordinary starving artist after the war...in Vienna.

Unless he did have connections to the PTB the Illuminati and the Thule organization ?

Because I am certain that the likelihood of all of this occurring by coincidence is rather slim ?

Nachtschicht - You had mentioned Thyssen.

Thyssen was also the name of the person in Germany who was tied to have received financing from the NYC bank owned by the Harman family, Union Bank, and for whom was on on the managerial staff, one Prescott Bush.

Which later got them convicted by the Trading with the Enemy Act, and later indicted by Congress after testimony by Smedley Butler for being approached to leading a military Coup against the FDR administration.

Interesting. Especially since now we are aware that Hitler might not have committed suicide in the bunker in Berlin as we have been told for all of these years.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler



I mean yeah rewriting history, Unlike in your thread where it takes the Zionist 2,000 years to (Rome) to get something done....

Hitler may have been a Jew. Who cares if he was or wasn’t? The important thing to remember is the Israel is a nation weather you like it or not, and will most likely be one until the End of Days.

reply to post by nh_ee


Sorry to play smartypants here.. Just to clear some things up..

Hitler wasn't a corporal, just a regular PFC.

He lived in Vienna from the early 1900's to 1913 and then went to Munich. He did not return to Vienna after the war - he returned to Munich. And he did not paint for a living after the war.

There was a "Thule" society and Hitler did profit from their organizational structure. But this society was neither powerful, nor important, nor did it exert any discernible influence on him.

Thyssen financed Hitler but not in the ridicuouls way that is claimed in the partly contested book "I paid Hitler".

The American contributions to the Nazis were minimal when compared to the sums they obtained through party activities and used for their campaigns. The financing of the Nazis is one of those topics - like Nazi occultism - where the myth is way more entertaining than the reality.

reply to post by ironfalcon


and we are just now hearing about this?

talk about the main stream media dropping the ball.

this tidbit of news is about 70 years too late, imo.

reply to post by Retseh




I hate ww2 history, ww2 movies, and all things nazi.. but I'll be the first to admit I do admire hitler, a little bit. I DO NOT admire the killings, the wars, the political coup, etc.. but I do admire the man's balls. They must have been huge to do the stuff he pulled.. Like so big he needed a wheelbarrow just to get around.

reply to post by zerbot565


The statement 'may of had' and 'we believe' is speculation and belief. Not a statement declaring a fact. So...stop it. Fact is fact, speculation and guess is speculation and guess. Guess, whether based upon studies is still just a guess. It isn't a fact and never will be a fact.

Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

I mean yeah rewriting history, Unlike in your thread where it takes the Zionist 2,000 years to (Rome) to get something done....

Hitler may have been a Jew. Who cares if he was or wasn’t? The important thing to remember is the Israel is a nation weather you like it or not, and will most likely be one until the End of Days.

Actually according to my information and calculations that is slated to happen sooner than you think.

However it won't be the end of days, just the end of an age, and be the pivotal event that sweeps away the current system of statism and denominational religion for a one world government and a one world religion.

What a shame the overly sensitive amongst us, would prefer to allow that happen because they are too emotionally challenged to question instilled dogmas.

By the way it is overly ambitious and optimistic regarding Israel since it was not a nation for very long in the beginning of the Empire and it certainly isn't slated to be a nation for very long now as the Empire nears the completion of it's conquest and open delcaration of victory.

Sure will be a shame to see all these silly myths and dogmas go and people fighting to defend and perpetuate them at their very own expense.

Pride I believe is one of the seven deadly sins.

Thanks for posting!

What if I were to tell you Hitler was ashkeNAZI, practiced Kabbalah, and he didnt kill the jews because he hated them but to put them in a greater position of power for the future. No one would ever stop to look for a Nazi in Israel.

See....the truth of the matter is Nazi Germany never really was defeated or died. It simply morphed and moved. (Israels State Recognition+ Project Paper Clip) Not just rocket scientists and space programs but technologies R&D that would blow your mind. When I say mind thats what I mean (MK)

Shortly after the fall of Nazi Germany a few things happened.

1. Finally all that esoteric kaballah experimentation and playing with other worldly energies (fission) finally paid off and opened up a gate in Roswell,NM July 1947..Some of the Tree of Life produced physical proof or fruit if you will.

2. Shortly the National Security Act came about and man...its a good thing it did because WOW. This is some wild stuff going taking place here.

3. Shortly after this Israel is recognized statehood UN Security Council.


Ever wonder why such a tiny country is so strong and tough? Its not because of why they have told you. If you are willing to believe it is G-ds divine protection why are you so quick to dismiss what I have said about Hitler and Roswell?

You ask me to prove it and I ask you to do the same for what you know. Funny thing is both of us cannot and there is a reason for this as well.

We are in exciting times for real man.

Oh by the way...you will see a red dot around and near the moon this week sometime after midnight. Don't be alarmed..it is only Mars

Wow someone has Hitler DNA.
How many are banging down the doors to get at that, for
various reasons.

I thought Hitler was thoroughly un identified.

Stalin found no DNA around the bunker and suspected it was all still mobile.

reply to post by TeslaandLyne


Actually Stalin was quite satisfied with the evidence Zhukov provided him of Hitlers death. But, as he later would say to Andropov "Let them dread the second coming"....

AHHH HAHHHHHHH! So now we know! The blacks and the jews started WWII and caused the holocaust!!!

Signed,

David Duke

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


What makes you think that the Revelations isnt true? Your half way there we know there will be One world Government and Relgion, We know the same folks who help a nobody from Austria (Hitler) rise to power, Why is it so hard for you to just admit it?