Drunk On-Duty Cop Kills - Mayor Calls In FBI

These scums have given bad name to the entire Police. I have come across some professional cops that I would solute them even if they are in civilian clothes as they respect their profession and adhered to the rules of law. But of course those are very small in numbers.

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Here's another article, the long version, if you will.

Here's the short:

The upshot: An officer alleged to have been blazing down the road in a drunken fury now faces charges alleging he merely acted recklessly.

But that arrest didn't come until five days after the crash because of the lag in test results. The delay in arresting Bisard drew scrutiny from some -- as did the fact that no officers conducted field-sobriety or breath tests of Bisard at the scene.

"Everything else can be explained away," said Henry Karlson, an expert on criminal procedure and a professor emeritus at Indiana University School of Law-Indianapolis. But add in the mishap with the blood draw by seasoned alcohol-crash investigators, he said, and "there's only so many mistakes you can make before it starts looking like a plan."

He wasn't even taken to the right place to draw his blood.
so, the DA drops the charge.
I would guess the corruption goes up quite a ways.

Notice how all the cop groupies , who normally slavishly rush to defend any cop at any time, are noticeable absent from this thread.

Cops are notorious drunks, alcohol abuse is rampant among cops, and always has been. Many merchants know that the best way to get good service from the cops is to send a case of whiskey to the station at Christmas time , and cops are continually being stopped on the roads and found to be intoxicated. I saw one cop that had an Old crow sticker on his ticketbook holder...smiling top hatted crow with tux and cane, swaggering along..typical for cops.

The most sickening part, of course , is the coverup that begins immediately...once a fellow cop arrives a miracle happens and all of the other cops lose their ability to smell, and they cannot determine if the driver is drunk....that badge insures that the others will do all they can to get the cop off as much as possible...they figure: " Hey, it could be me...so why should this guy lose his job and go to jail? Give his a pass..."

Cops are NOT ' professionals ', by any definition of the word. Professionals do NOT neglect to enforce profressional and legal ethics and violate the rules and laws...cops always want US to pay strict attention to the laws, while they cover up for their buddies and laugh at us for being powerless....sick freaks. Some day....some day..

I carry a Canon E5 with me where ever I go after I seen a COP, On Duty, And in uniform, making an exit from the package store with a 750ml bottle of Knob Creek, without a bag over it.

[edit on 22-8-2010 by InformationAgent]

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Yes, I did notice that. It is true cops are notorious drunks- if you want to open a bar make sure it is cop friendly and it'll be there forever. If it becomes the cop bar you'll sometimes have to be smart about what you see- but you'll be rich.

"Cops are NOT ' professionals ', by any definition of the word."

Truer words have seldom been spoken. Well Done!

Originally posted by Dogdish
The cover-up was certainly voluntary.

of course it was
but I wasn't adding the involuntary word
to the cover-up, just the initial act of
killing the motorcycle driver.

involuntary manslaughter - hitting the motorcycle while drunk
voluntary conspiracy - cover-up afterward

ya see

Originally posted by InformationAgent
I carry a Canon E5 with me where ever I go after I seen a COP, On Duty, And in uniform, making an exit from the package store with a 750ml bottle of Knob Creek, without a bag over it.

and he'd probably say
that was evidence in an ongoing
investigation

It looks to me like you're better off paying civilians not to break the law rather than paying these drunk drivers to enforce it .

I won't comment much on the event since I'm from another continent. But... I am lurking ATS for few years now, and I do see an increase in threads like these where crime is blatantly obvious (a drunk police officer, I mean come on...). I remember even ATS members who allegedly work in PD using words like "brotherhood" and "brother" when talking about their colleagues, which is creepy to say the least.

This is probably not an isolated case of a "bad apple", it a likely indication of deeply rooted corruption within PD and/or local government. Crazy stuff.

I lived in Indianapolis for over 35 years and incidents like this are common, you just never heard about it. The city and county have always protected their own and will continue to do so.
The Police forces in the little cities inside of Indy like Lawrence or Beech Grove are even more notorious regarding misconduct, especially in matters regarding race.

Originally posted by richierich
Notice how all the cop groupies , who normally slavishly rush to defend any cop at any time, are noticeable absent from this thread.

...too bad the same cant be said for those who make their arguements with exaggerations and generalizations...

Originally posted by richierich
Cops are notorious drunks, alcohol abuse is rampant among cops, and always has been.

...some catholic priests and some christian preachers/ministers have sexually molested children... does that make ALL priests and preachers/ministers guilty of the same?... no, of course not... some doctors and some nurses are prescription drug addicts... does that make ALL doctors and nurses junkies?... no, of course not...

...some cops abuse alcohol, some abuse pain-killers, some abuse their wives or kids, some use illegal drugs, some sell drugs - but - some cops are sober all of the time and are exceptionally wonderful spouses, parents, friends (etc) who truly make a good difference in society...

Originally posted by richierich
The most sickening part, of course , is the coverup that begins immediately...

...the cop in question was given a breath analysis and his level of intoxication was determined (although later thrown out)... my point is - you're exaggerating again... we dont know for sure when the cover-up started but it doesnt appear to have started immediately in this particular case...

Originally posted by richierich
Cops are NOT ' professionals ', by any definition of the word. Professionals do NOT neglect to enforce profressional and legal ethics and violate the rules and laws...

...thats incredibly naive... there are no professions that should be put up on a pedestal - because - all professionals are humans and all humans have personality flaws, just like you, just like me...

...what your comment up there says about you is - you expect cops to act like infallible gods, then you get pissed off when some act like they think they're gods and you get pissed off when some fail to act like the gods you think they should be... if you could come to the understanding that all human groups contain good people, bad people and inbetweeners, you might not be so angry all the time...

Originally posted by richierich
cops always want US to pay strict attention to the laws, while they cover up for their buddies and laugh at us for being powerless....sick freaks. Some day....some day..

...yeah, well, you're entitled to your opinion - even though its naive and full of generalizations (which, btw, make you wrong by default)...

I read stories like these and envision me attending my child's funeral while a blatantly criminal LEO is on paid time off and will soon be returning to *duty*. I imagine the ensuing story would most definitely make major headlines.

Wow what a sad story. I find it ironic that he was an honorary member of MADD. What a moron.
I am very disappointed in his colleagues as well. If they were to do their jobs correctly, no questions asked he would have been thrown into the drunk tank like every other citizen who would of have been drinking, driving, and killing.

However, I must say, when you're in a gang, you have to stick up for your brothers. Their mentality is "us vs. them". That needs to change first, before anything else.

[edit on 22/8/2010 by InnerTruths]

Originally posted by sremmos
Flip this around

If a drunk driving citizen killed a motorcycle cop what would happen?

Guaranteed life in prison.

he is the mayor he is in charge of his city agencies which includes the police department . he called the feds because all the cops all the way up would probably cover each others arses. he knows the feds will not cover for them.

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Many states have laws on the book that treat vehicular manslaughter while intoxicated to be voluntary. After all, you KNOW you're a danger when you're drunk and behind hte wheel, but you do it anyway.

Originally posted by proteus33
he is the mayor he is in charge of his city agencies which includes the police department . he called the feds because all the cops all the way up would probably cover each others arses. he knows the feds will not cover for them.

The ultimate law enforcement entity within a county is the Sheriff. Should the Sheriff prove to be complicit, only then should the Feds be called. At the same time, the Sheriff can tell the Feds to go *pound salt* since they have no lawful jurisdiction in the Sheriff's county.

Regaining our unalienable rights requires that we elect Sheriffs who take their oaths seriously and have the intestinal fortitude to do what is right regardless of where the chips fall.

Whether men of said mettle are still around these days? Therein lies the problem.

Here's the email to their Complaint Board:

[email protected]

Here's the Indiana Metropolitan Police's website:

www.indy.gov...

Here's a page to contact the mayor so you can say thanks or something, seeing as I was surprised to see a mayor actually step in and intervene something like this.

www.indy.gov...

Originally posted by Wyn Hawks

...the cop in question was given a breath analysis and his level of intoxication was determined (although later thrown out)... my point is - you're exaggerating again... we dont know for sure when the cover-up started but it doesnt appear to have started immediately in this particular case...

...did you even read the article? The cop wasn't given a breath analysis and the other cops on the scene said they couldn't tell that he was drunk. And with a BAC that was still .19 hours after the scene, any person could have told you that he was drunk.

Originally posted by Wyn Hawks

...thats incredibly naive... there are no professions that should be put up on a pedestal - because - all professionals are humans and all humans have personality flaws, just like you, just like me...

...what your comment up there says about you is - you expect cops to act like infallible gods, then you get pissed off when some act like they think they're gods and you get pissed off when some fail to act like the gods you think they should be... if you could come to the understanding that all human groups contain good people, bad people and inbetweeners, you might not be so angry all the time...

So you're saying that we shouldn't hold an armed profession that claims it is supposed to be serving the public good to a higher standard than, say, a sales associate at a department store? The point is that the people that are supposed to be upholding the law are getting away with breaking it. If they can't be held to higher standards than regular citizens, what the hell is the point of having police?

There are certain professions that must be held to higher standards than others because they are (in theory) trusted with the safety of the public. Would you want a pilot who is a habitual drinker? How about a school bus driver who is prone to road rage? If my city gives a person a gun and the authority to speed, run traffic lights, and detain people, I want to be damn sure that he/she doesn't have any "personality flaws" that will conflict with the ability to carry out his/her job. And if cops are going to arrest people they better be damn sure that there is a good reason for doing so...otherwise it's kidnapping plain and simple.

Originally posted by free_form

Here's a page to contact the mayor so you can say thanks or something, seeing as I was surprised to see a mayor actually step in and intervene something like this.

www.indy.gov...

That is a really good thought.

He was obviously furious yesterday morning when he was told the charges were dropped. Honest fury, not just politics. He was more subdued on last night's news, while he had accepted the demotions, he was still very angry... and not apologetic at all for bringing in the FBI.

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My God how sick and evil can these cops (bastards) get. I know not all law enforcement individuals are animals like these sub-human creeps but dam this is happening to frequently. I respect the law but I would have NO problems laying one of these sorry bastards out flat. This country is nothing but Germany all over again. Even worse in some ways.