Subliminal Manipulation today. Can you see it?

reply to post by ArMaP


OMG!!!

how are you not on my friends list yet????

i assure you this was totally a computer glitch, it shall be fixed.
5 years we have been bumping into eachother and you are not on my friends list??? this is not acceptable, all apologies ArMaP, i just now noticed that.
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thanks for the history lesson on your country, and i don't blame the populous of your beautiful country for not wanting to be involved with the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. during those decades.

i did not know the history of your country, nor was i aware such a revolution existed.
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NoRegretsEver,
you have turned some of my attention towards aspects of neuro-linguistic programming i was until this thread ignorant of, and i appreciate learning new things.

i know much about the english language and how it may not only be from left to right, and how our minds may interpret information encrypted/encoded into our words and the psychological implications of the symbols themselves.

i was thinking i would do some research into subliminal marketing techniques for the purposes of (learning) and sharing in this thread, but occassionaly i will cut and paste previously introduced information from more than a dozen threads i have authored over the past 5 years consisting of information concerning the subliminal encryptions found in the words. fortunatley or unfortunatley most of those threads were not well recieved, but perhaps it just wasn't the time that people were receptive. But with the techniques mentioned in this thread by yourself and others, this subject matter may make more sense, a piece of the puzzle.

i will do some research into subliminal marketting techniques and bring some links and sources that may be helpful for this thread's purpose.

to me, this is what ATS is for, and what it is about. It also may tie into aliens and ufos, and later i will share why i think this. and i will provide anagramical evidence that supports this "theory" in the future, but for now....

Whistle Blower
same letters as:
Be With Roswell

it is what i am most informed about concerning subliminal suggestions, and what i have done a fair amount of research into over the past few years.

i hope this helps, anything you want me to focus my research and gather up information on to help with this thread, let me know. i have plenty of time on my hands these days.

my new signing off signature:

Me? Of course i am human,
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edit to add: ArMaP, for years of service helping me deny my ignorance, you are now officially on my friends list. as a measure of integrity, it is my obligation to be honest with you, i like collecting stars. BUT: as a friend i expect you to help me earn them!


[edit on 24-8-2010 by Esoteric Teacher]

Originally posted by ArMaP

What I find even scarier is that these devices were made long ago, and we have had plenty of time to make these things bigger, and better.

What I find scarier is that someone like you didn't know about that, this is no secret here in Europe, at least to me.

There is definatley a cultural gap in this conversation.

no offense to either of you is intended.


ArMaP,
information and the sharing of it is being controlled in the united states. Furthermore, the laws and rules of our society keep us so distracted and so focussed on our routines and our societies' percieved expectations, we are (as a whole) almost not permitted to pay attention.

and many tools are being utilized against us to make us conform to the will of an as of yet unknown agenda. unknown in my opinion that is.

like i said in a previous post: 2% of all the news on tv and radio covers the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan

2% of all the news being broadcasted in America to Americans is about our wars.

everything else is .... encoded or just diversionary tactics to calm us down and passify us to believe we don't want to know what is going on in reality.

i sincerely believe America is in a state of Marshal Law of some degree.
We are not being informed. Information is being bottle necked, and is being filtered.

i hope this makes sense to you ArMaP. Those whom we rely upon to inform us, are not informing us, they are attempting to brain-dirty (brainwash?) us into whatever agenda "they" have.

in short:

we americans are being lied to.

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
There is definatley a cultural gap in this conversation.

It was probably just the way I wrote it, after posting it I thought it looked a little strange.

What I meant is that someone that obviously has some interest in conspiracy theories like NoRegretsEver is apparently just now starting to see these things.

I know that information control is the best way of controlling the population (before the revolution we had a Cardinal that used to say that people should know only how to sign their name, knowing how to read was a way of getting into trouble), but I never thought that it was already so deeply set in the society as apparently is.

Based on how long I know about these things, I think that this type of conditioning in the US probably started during the 60s, so all people below 60 years is already highly affected by it, obviously depending of the level of exposure.

Or perhaps you are talking about something else and I am confusing things again.

reply to post by ArMaP


no, i think you understood what i was trying to share.

i was expressing how i feel about the information being presented to us in america, and how it is being presented to us in america.

seriously, it is as though the main stream media is at war with the american population itself. when they are not attacking each other.

they report on the worst and their sensationalism is only masking over their intentions, like they have no agenda and under the disguise of being "fair and balanced".

i think the information that is being provided for you in your country is not like the information that is being fed to us in america.

media is someone's or someones' tool here in america to project their agenda(s), rather than inform us as to what is truly transpiring in the world.

my tax dollars pay for hundreds of military bases worldwide. the main stream news only spends 2% of their time reporting on the wars. i would like to know how my tax dollars are being spent.

please don't assume americans are informed. we are not.

the only way we are informed, is if the words themselves are encoded and encrypted. it makes more sense to me that way.

i take it back. i have been watching/listening to fox all day, they just spent 20 seconds talking about iraq for the first time in 7 hours.

[edit on 24-8-2010 by Esoteric Teacher]

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The funny thing is that I don't watch Portuguese news channels, I only watch Euronews, a news channel that joins journalists from many European (and some non-European) countries and that, from what I have seen, is very balanced and fair, although I have noticed that sometimes the first versions of some news piece is slightly changed in later versions.

Today I saw the arrival of US soldiers to Fort Bliss, they had a journalist that went with a soldier's wife to film the family reunion. You can see it here.

Although Portuguese news is not much affected by that hiding of information that affects US news, I don't like to watch Portuguese TV, it's too "popular-minded", so they show more the type of news that make people talk about it than important things.

But we have several programs specialised in economics and politics, some very good, but I don't watch much TV anyway, I get most of my local news from the radio.

reply to post by ArMaP


i think it would be interesting to see if news agencies in europe and other places also utilizes these subliminal techniques and neuro-linguistic stuff when "reporting" like what we see with sean hannity in those first videos.

i don't want us to drift too far off topic, but i think some of the cultural differences among us on ats can be a deterant from understanding the truth behind it.

there is about 9 billion people on this planet speaking thousands of languages.

how can so many people containing 99.7+% of the same dna and utilizing the near identical mouths create so many different languages and dialects?
sometimes i wonder.

thanks for sharing that with me ArMaP, i do appreciate it.

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
how can so many people containing 99.7+% of the same dna and utilizing the near identical mouths create so many different languages and dialects?
sometimes i wonder.

That is easily noticed in Portugal, a small country with many different ways of talking that are not dialects but that have specific words that are only used in some regions.

That's probably the result of being regions that have been populated for thousands of years and, even with the ease of moving from place to place, kept their specific way of talking (besides other cultural differences).

That's why I think that new (a 227 years old country is new when compared with a 867 one ) countries are easier for experiments like that, based on language.

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This in NO way is new information for me. When I have in the past presented information that includes the masses Ive learned that sometimes you have to do this gradually, and not to scare.

That of course being the reason why some people will not research, due to fear, and misunderstanding.

I know where I stand on what I know. As I said above, this information if given at a certain rate then it can be easier understood.

If I started this thread, and said "You're all being brainwashed, don't you see it", people would have immediately attacked the thread.

What I did do, is less about trying to prove I'm right, but allow people to see for themselves.

I am NOT the authority on this subject, and never claimed to be, but I am a person that understands that if you have a message, overwhelming people is not the way to go.

As for this conversation of constant back and forth, I would already think that you do not agree about this information, so I will continue on as before, and hopefully others will take the time to read, and search for themselves.

So, thank you for your participation.

Peace.

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Just wanted to add in the distinction between off-set printing and digital printing. With Off-set, you will have massive color variations. Thats why we run 15k for a 10k job. figure 5k will be garbage.

Digital is much more precise and much less cost effective. Just wanted to add that on.

Originally posted by NoRegretsEver
This in NO way is new information for me. When I have in the past presented information that includes the masses Ive learned that sometimes you have to do this gradually, and not to scare.

By the way you have been talking about it I got the idea that it was relatively new to you, and by relatively new I mean one or two years.

If I started this thread, and said "You're all being brainwashed, don't you see it", people would have immediately attacked the thread.

That would have been the wrong way of starting.

I am NOT the authority on this subject, and never claimed to be, but I am a person that understands that if you have a message, overwhelming people is not the way to go.

I don't think that you should present all the information in one giant post either, I just think that saying that there are other methods and what they are would have been better than just point one (the one I think is less effective), because, from what I have seen in these 8 years of reading ATS, many people read the first two or three pages and after that only a hand-full (when compared with the possibilities) of people continue reading, so many people did not even learnt about the existence of other systems.

As for this conversation of constant back and forth, I would already think that you do not agree about this information, so I will continue on as before, and hopefully others will take the time to read, and search for themselves.

What conversation of constant back and forth?

And if you think that I don't agree with the information then you haven't understood a word of what I have been saying.

Who needs subliminal messages when you can own every possible avenue of alternative and also innundate people with incessant repitition while at the same time stimulaing pleasure centers constantly?

Originally posted by miragezero
Who needs subliminal messages when you can own every possible avenue of alternative and also innundate people with incessant repitition while at the same time stimulaing pleasure centers constantly?

the only reason they are flooding people with their constant repetitive communications is to reinforce their efforts to attempt to usurp by subversive tactics peoples' mental facilities in subversive ways in order to be more receptive to their recalcitrant Magniloquence, without people knowing it.

[edit on 24-8-2010 by Esoteric Teacher]

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One of the reasons is conditioning, like a Pavlov dog.

Even if they (whoever they may be) do not want to do anything just now they may condition people to act in a certain way when they detect a specific "signal", exactly like what happened with Pavlov's dogs.

Although I do hold the belief that we are bombarded with messages subliminal or otherwise everyday, I just do not see it in the last video.

I dont see any of the words that were pointed out, and found it hard to swallow that he didnt have any 'high res' images of what he was telling us. I also found it extremely difficult to take on board that company magazine would not only tell us that god lies, but that they help control religion!!

I think people see things they want to see. The bible code being a perfect example. You can make anything out of nothing, and thats what i think was done here.

Although interesting to watch.

Can somebody confirm if this is also a sublim message? I found it as i was looking at the september 2010 edition

www.glamour.com...

You can kind of see it just looking at it but i used paint to magnify it, Look at the left eyebrow and you see the letters S E X

Im pretty sure that is one, i spent 5 minutes looking for a sublim msg for my first time and found one, must be everywhere!

reply to post by Quasar_La-Zar

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Quasar_La-Zar,
thanks for coming to this thread and sharing your input on this subject, i think your participation is more than welcome Quasar_La-Zar.

I've spent about 5 minutes looking at it after copying it to a paint program, but the pixelation is too block style. i'm afraid i don't see what you are referring to.

it is also worth mentioning that when we create things we are also creating things with a subconscious mind which does have input into our art and creation, whether we are consciously aware of it or not.

even when we name things (linguistics) our subconscious mind may also incorporate information into what we name as well.

like the number one cause of air pollution is accredited to automobiles.

i think about how they are blowing fumes out of their tail pipes....

and impose our empathy upon what it is we name as though it has some level of consciousness itself, when we name it....

so if i were an automobile, what would i say that means the same thing as:
"see i fart"

see = C (same childlike phonetics)
i = i
fart = ffart

CIFFART [mirror] TRAFFIC

so, it may not be intentional of the conscious mind when we incorporate certain truisms into what we create. we may not be fully consciously aware that we are doing it, but in Sean Hannity's case as is addressed in the OP's first post, i believe he is aware of what he is doing to influence and control what his audiences opinions will be, rather than the truth of the facts, he is serving his agenda, or that of his employers.

perhaps you can clarify what you see in that Glamour magazine cover a little more, but i must concede i do not see the word "sex" hidden in her eyebrow.

Quasar_La-Zar,
thanks for coming to this thread and sharing your input on this subject, i think your participation is more than welcome Quasar_La-Zar.
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Thank you for joining us,
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It is not always what you consciously percieve, sometimes the subconscious mind can be spoken to and can over-ride your usual intentions. I think you might find that sticking your nose up at the possibilities of what is being pointed out here may be a way to influence your own actions and behaviors without you being aware that it can occur.
[color=414141]pick nose get booger pick nose
unfortunatley for some the only way to prove to them that this may be possible to do is to use subliminal techniques to effect their behavior and then point out to them that their actions and behaviors can be manipulated and controlled in different ways.
[color=414141]pick nose pick nose pick nose
your finger isn't in your nostril right now by chance is it?

at any rate, thanks for joining us,
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Here are some links for NPL (Neuro-Linguistic Programming)

Currently I am researching/reading the history of NLP (Neuro-Linguistic Programming) and the two individuals accredited with labelling it as a science related to psychotherapy and organizational change ( The co-founders, Richard Bandler and linguist John Grinder)
Wikipedia’s Neuro-Linguistic Programming Article

Wikipedia’s Richard Wayne Bandler Article
Wikipedia’s John Grinder Ph.D Article

I’m also looking at this site as well:
Neurolinguisticprogramming

This site (for the skeptic) looks like it has a great deal of information concerning NLP:

It is a difficult to define NLP because those who started it and those involved in it use such vague and ambiguous language that NLP means different things to different people.
NPL Information

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reply to post by NoRegretsEver


Yesterday was the OP's birthday.

One day late, but...

Happy Birthday NoRegretsEver.
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I'm currently researching claims of subliminal influencing found in Walt Disney movies and related products to submit as supportive evidence into this thread. and i am learning stuff in the process. hope this might help.