Send Tamil migrants home: Poll

Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
reply to post by FreeSpeaker

 

Ah yes. Money. It all boils down to it doesnt it? Even when collectively it would cost you a mere 0.01 cts to feed this stranger, and soon to be a contributor citizen to your country?


Peace.

And how naive is this statement. The world doesn't run on money? Lets all bankrupt ourselves helping others from a far away land while our neighboors starve.

Once again assuming they will get jobs without education or being able to speak english. This is not the USA with tons of jobs people don't want to do.

What is with this attitude that a country cannot determine who they will and will not allow to immigrate? Let each country decide for itself because I could care less what an American or european thinks of how we run our country.

[edit on 20-8-2010 by FreeSpeaker]

Many of the so-called bleeding hearts are taking money for their posts here and in other forums

and they're instructed -- and given manuals telling them what to write


No-one needs to justify their reasons for rejecting migrants


For example, I would vote and work for free for any politicians who not only ensured a complete halt to immigrants to my nation -- I'd donate a large amount to any politician who deported at least 3/4 of the migrants allowed in during the past 15 years

And I don't feel obliged to explain or justify that

It's how I feel. I feel strongly about it. I'm sick to death of 3rd worlders sloping around in their weird clothing, with their weird foods and beliefs, with their constant breeding and ruthless domination in every sphere

I want them gone

I sure as hell don't want more

I don't enjoy them or the destruction of my own culture

I'm fed up with seeing them being handed the jobs stolen from decent, hardworking and HONEST folk who's forebears pioneered this land and fought for it in two world wars


and it's my right to say so and I'll support anyone who closes the door and empties the place of most of the 3rd world migrants who managed to get themselves in

Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
reply to post by FreeSpeaker

 

I had always loved Canadians for I find them fun loving easy going people despite the hardships they faced in their lives, and would never let such pains encompass their lives to their point whereby they would consider the self is more important than anyone else.

Canada is a great and huge land of hope and opportunities compared to 3 world deprivations.

But if you are representative of the great Canadian People by your perceptions gleaned from your post, then I guess my faith and hope in you guys had been misplaced and misled.

May no one else share my insignificant insights, or Canada will start losing friends and hard won good will impressions.

Peace

Ill call the Wambulance for you!

Canada allows these illegal transactions of humans into the country because the officials are gutless.

Because we complain about our cost of living but further burden it. The average refugee claimant is waiting two years to get their status addressed. Two years of OUR TAX DOLLARS supporting subsides, living costs, medical, food…you name it. While you might be teary-eyed at their arrival, Hard working Canadians are picking your own pocketbook–stealing from yourself. Your children.

It’s sickening. And, add to that the fact that terrorist Tamil Tigers may be among the boat load and you can see why we are the laughing stock of the international community today. Australia sends them back. What’s wrong with us?

Oh, I’m sorry, there are women and children aboard. Of course there are you ninnies, you bleeding hearts that allow this shameful, politically correct madness to transpire

pack the boat with food medical supplies and some Canadian Flags and refuel their vessel and send them on their way with a nice navy ship escort.

See ya later free loaders, we have enough here in Canada anyways from the Welfare bums to the immigrants and there free living and health care and dental care I have worked my whoel life I have had to pay for Dentists Housing MEdicine etc.... why should these non english speaking individuals deserve a chance here that is the question at hand, 4 out of 5 Candians say send them on their way!

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They had better not. These refugees need shelter, and food. This poll horrified me, for this is the collective consicousness. Greer says 25 % are striving for raised consciousness, well, that poll actually showed 83% and very very lacking in what it takes to progress the human race. And we are more collective than the US.

On 11 11, Aug. 11 2011, a comet is coming close to earth. It is affected by planets and sun, and is fueled by our star, which is our collective consciousness and more in this Holographic Universe/School Test.

It flung 2 meteors at venus roughly a decade ago in a pass.

And there is always anohter one after that, and wars, diseases, every disaster you can think of. Also, Aug 2011-Oct 2011 are critical dates for the mayan calendar.

Earth is a school, a prison/school to learn LOVE, EQUALITY, and to renounce/denounce the world. It is a test, to wake up and see through things. To not follow bad orders, to say no to war, to refuse to go, even if there are consequences. To prefer to die knowing you followed you heart over ever giving in to bad laws, bad rules, bad orders.

To see through the bankers, the realtors, and the corporations. To ask if we ever needed money.

Africa is the symbol for this planet, 5 billion people are living in grueling poverty.

Wake up. And do it fast.

All disasters, and wars, and fascism, and slavery and poverty is low level tests for low grades of LOVE. Raise your LOVE and UNDERSTANDING to the next level to pass the test.

And look up, for our cosmic family is here, waking us up and nudging us. j

This poll was the most revolting thing I had read comign from my own people.

[edit on 20-8-2010 by Unity_99]

Originally posted by Unity_99
They had better not. These refugees need shelter, and food. This poll horrified me, for this is the collective consicousness. Greer says 25 % are striving for raised consciousness, well, that poll actually showed 83%

and very very lacking in what it takes to progress the human race. And we are more collective than the US.


[edit on 20-8-2010 by Unity_99]

They have been given food and care and now they can go home. Bleeding hearts will be the end of us all. Once we open the door to this kind of immigration it will never stop and I for one will not stand for it and as the poll said 4/5 agree with me.

Make the so-called bleeding-hearts put their money where their mouths are

Let them take the 'migrants' (spelled invaders) into their OWN homes

and support them with their OWN money


Bye bye, bleeding hearts

we understand


you're busy


you would take them in, but you have a business to run

right


you already have your sick mother to care for

right


you're busy home-schooling and making jam for the fete

sure

you've just had new carpet fitted, or you've just recovered the chairs and the migrants would probably destroy them

Yep, we understand


You would take them in, but you're retiring soon

and you have to babysit your grandchildre

plus your house just isn't big enough

and you're in poor health

or you would take in a few migrants

BUT ... you've heard that once they get in, they start bringing in dozens of relatives

and then they start bringing in dozens of relatives


and those jewish-operated 'migrant rights' groups (but not as applies to Israel of course) will create legislation that allows every migrant to sponser six more

and then where would you be, huh?

That's right .... your standard of living would drop and your taxes would increase


and then you wouldn't be able to get inside hospitals

or schools

and your teenage children wouldn't be able to find a place to rent because all those 'poor migrants' would be getting first preference

sure, we know, we know .. that's how it goes, isn't it ?

and your kids wouldn't be able to find work, either, because of course the 'poor migrants' would again be given first preference


yep. That's what happens alright



What's that you say, Bleeding Heart ?

You've changed your mind about letting in the migrants, now you've had a chance to think about it .. and now you've realised what it might cost you ?


Oh gee, that's big of you

When it was only going to cost everyone else, you were all in favour of it !


Well here's a tip, Bleeding Heart --- don't post from your safe little hole over in Tel Aviv or Russia or elsewhere, trying to persuade other people to destroy their own lives. Not unless you're prepared to put your name down right now, declaring your willingness to accept half a dozen migrants into your own home .. wherever that might be

bye bye

when i was younger is used to think my grandfather was quite the racist.
pretty much lumped foreigners as darkies or chinamen. we were basically
brought over in coffin ships and dumped off in the st.lawrence seaway.
(at least the darkies had value)
Anyway- they all went to work and died digging the erie canal.
i dont think any caught much of a break along the line.
course now in the states we continue to be flooded
with darkies and chinamen. indeed the govt. helps
everybody out -skipping over the citizens. theres the friction.
My brilliant idea would be a 4 year mandatory service program
-you assimilate as you work and demonstrate your worth.
to bring strangers in and turn them loose is folly. they clique up
and never become part of the society. as with muslims in europe,
mexicans in the states..etc. my other brilliant idea is
make all illegals citizens and then reinstate the draft-ha!
then to escape the draft they could run back to mexico.
they should put me in charge..
but again you cant have stranger after stranger barging into your
home- the tamils are breaking into your home in a sense.. it's not right.
how many hatians do you think would hop onto florida from the quake..
pakistanis from the flood.. etc etc..



[edit on 21-8-2010 by p51mustang]

I am Canadian, and can tell any non-Canadian observers in this thread that it is racism, plain and simple, that motivates this anti-Tamil backlash. It should be absolutely clear from reading the second page of this thread that Canada is chock-full of deplorable racists! And they do not discriminate against any one group, no; they hate ANYONE from another country that tries to enter this one (except, you will notice, white migrants).

Note that they obscure their racism behind money. Most people are satisfied when they discover that someone's motives are money, because "money makes the world go round." It is the perfect cover-up, because few people would care to dig any deeper!

Let's look at the evidence.
This lovely gent thinks that if you don't speak English (note his implicit racism against French-Canadians) then you have no right to come to this country:

Originally posted by seridium
See ya later free loaders, we have enough here in Canada anyways from the Welfare bums to the immigrants and there free living and health care and dental care I have worked my whoel life I have had to pay for Dentists Housing MEdicine etc.... why should these non english speaking individuals deserve a chance here that is the question at hand, 4 out of 5 Candians say send them on their way!

This fellow thinks that we should kick out immigrants from the past 15 years (note for non-Canadians: most of these migrants are from Asia!) Note the use of the word breeding, as if the LEGAL migrants that the poster is talking about are comparable to vermin:

Originally posted by Dock9
For example, I would vote and work for free for any politicians who not only ensured a complete halt to immigrants to my nation -- I'd donate a large amount to any politician who deported at least 3/4 of the migrants allowed in during the past 15 years

And I don't feel obliged to explain or justify that

It's how I feel. I feel strongly about it. I'm sick to death of 3rd worlders sloping around in their weird clothing, with their weird foods and beliefs, with their constant breeding and ruthless domination in every sphere

I want them gone

Look at the double bind these racists put migrants in; if they don't get a job, they are moochers; if they do get a job, they STOLE it from a resident! If they are refugees, they are 'illegal' immigrants! If they are LEGAL MIGRANTS with jobs and who pay taxes, they are destroying this country! Does that make sense? If the problem is that they mooch from the taxpayer-funded system, why should they be discriminated against even when they pay taxes back into that system, even when they get jobs that make them productive members of society?

I can proudly and happily gloat to racists in Canada; your day is done. The old ways are dead, and you are railing against the future. Maybe if you weren't such dour, humourless and self-centered anti-humanists you would see the incalculable riches brought to this country by refugees and migrants, legal or otherwise. I am sure that you will try to use your standard "dey tuk ur jobz" and "they steealin ur taxes" line on me, as I am obviously immune to "DAMN BROWN PEOPLE HAVE GROSS FOOD". It won't work, I can see through the bull, and I know your game inside and out.

~An Anglo-Scotch Canadian with a Bengali girlfriend

Send 'em home. If a boatload of terrorists showed up in New York, you lot who are crying about this would blow them out of the water. The only reason they were allowed to dock in the first place is because Stephen Harper is a gutless, spineless sack of slime.

Originally posted by SmedleyBurlap
I can proudly and happily gloat to racists in Canada; your day is done. The old ways are dead, and you are railing against the future. Maybe if you weren't such dour, humourless and self-centered anti-humanists you would see the incalculable riches brought to this country by refugees and migrants, legal or otherwise.

We are railing agianst the future you say. A future like the current immigration crisis in the USA because thats what uncontrolled immigration leads to. I'm proud to rail against such a future.

I should be seeing the incalculable riches brought by the refugees and immigrants you say. The only thing I have seen brought to this great nation by uncontrolled immigration is increased crime and the further burdening of our welfare system.

reply to post by FreeSpeaker


Where you can only see the short-term 'burden' (as if you would have noticed any difference without being told there were refugees) I choose to look ahead to the future benefits of this investment. If even one of those families remains here and succeeds here and is accepted by the people living here, then a permanent channel is opened up between Canada and Sri Lanka, and a brain drain of Tamil expertise and culture into Canada will become easier. You may think that this is a bad future, but you won't be around to see it flourish, and I will. Please stop ruining the future of this country.

Originally posted by SmedleyBurlap
If even one of those families remains here and succeeds here and is accepted by the people living here, then a permanent channel is opened up between Canada and Sri Lanka, and a brain drain of Tamil expertise and culture into Canada will become easier.

So by your logic if only a handfull of the 500 refugees succeed here somehow Canada has bennifited in your words by " a permanent channel is opened up between Canada and Sri Lanka, and a brain drain of Tamil expertise and culture into Canada will become easier." Whatever the hell that means.

How missguided do you have to be to say if 1% of the refugees succeed here and the rest don't, meaning they are using the welfare system, Canada is bennifiting? Care to explain that logically?

You may think that this is a bad future, but you won't be around to see it flourish, and I will. Please stop ruining the future of this country.

I won't be around? Where am I going?
I've seen the future people like you want to create happening just south of us, and I'm here to tell you we won't let it happen. If anyone ruins the future of this nation it will be people like you.

reply to post by FreeSpeaker


I think that human capital is more valuable than currency.

Originally posted by SmedleyBurlap
reply to post by FreeSpeaker

 

I think that human capital is more valuable than currency.

Thats it. The best you got?

Its nice to be altruistic, but don't let it distract you from REALITY.

The reality is this world runs on currency. It has nothing to do with whats right or wrong, moral or immoral, logical or illogical, its just the way it is. When you ignore that and take the moral highground, no matter the consequences, you are erroding the systems ability to function by placing more burden on it than it can handle. Thats reality.

reply to post by FreeSpeaker


I hope you have a lot of money, or else your life must be a sad, empty and meaningless void. Humanism is always superior to capitalism.

Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
reply to post by FreeSpeaker

 

May no one else share my insignificant insights, or Canada will start losing friends and hard won good will impressions.
Peace

Gawd I can't believe I just read this. The entire weight of Canada's history has been brought down to a boatload of people who are circumventing our already lax immigration policies to shortcut their way to "freedom".

We know nothing about these people, they haven't stated who they are, or what they might be fleeing in their homeland. For all we know this is a ship with 500 Ted Bundy's on it. But If we as Canadians expect these refugees to respect our rule of law, then we lose the respect of your "insignificant insights".

If they are in fact refugees, they should apply for that status through the channels that already exist. If they are criminals, escaping their own justice system, they should be set back to sea. If they are criminals preparing to fleece Canada's lax judicial system how are we at fault for not wanting them?

The truth is, we simply don't know. What we do know is they didn't go where they claimed they were sailing to in the first place. We do know they are expecting to stay in Canada at our expense. We do know that they have been very hesitant with the details about who they are and what their history is. None of this makes me, a Canadian citizen, very happy about supporting them.

I wonder if you would be so welcoming with a hitchhiker you just met coming home to stay with you....forever.

..Ex

reply to post by v3_exceed


You said it right, sonny. You don't know. So send them far away, far from your shores, and justtify to yourself that they are a bunch of DARK SKINNED criminals and sleep well at night, at what you did to your fellow brothers and sisters by Divine Creation.

So this is what had become of Canada? May you be the only one with such beliefs, for I refused to accept if this inhumanity had become of Canadians, muti-racial unity of a people whom i would pride above all.

Peace.

Originally posted by v3_exceed

Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
reply to post by FreeSpeaker

 

May no one else share my insignificant insights, or Canada will start losing friends and hard won good will impressions.
Peace

Gawd I can't believe I just read this. The entire weight of Canada's history has been brought down to a boatload of people who are circumventing our already lax immigration policies to shortcut their way to "freedom".

You misread Canadian history, son. It is mostly made up of extreme racism and prejudice up to and beyond Trudeau's multiculturalism policy of 1971 (that only changed the law, not the attitude of xenophobes like yourself and your parents).

But what the hell, yeah? Forty years of the government tolerating people that the racist public does not is charity enough!

Originally posted by SmedleyBurlap
reply to post by FreeSpeaker

 

I hope you have a lot of money, or else your life must be a sad, empty and meaningless void. Humanism is always superior to capitalism.

Does humanism provide me with food to eat?
Does humanism provide me with shelter?
Does humanism provide me with clothing?
Does humanism provide me with any basic nessecities of life?

Your type of humanism has no problem taking from one group to support another all so you can feel good about yourselves. Don't you realise when you take away from people without their permission it creates negativity wich eventually transforms into resentment, bitterness, prejudice, and hatred? You think you are doing good but your intentions create major problems and i'm left wondering what kind of fairy tale reality people like you live in.

Oh, and by the way, I'm quite comfortable in my life. The only meaningless voids in life I'm aware of are the social spending programs people like you advocate.

Unless you can provide some kind of logical argument, not any more of these ultruistic quips, of why these refugees should be allowed to stay here, I'm done debating with you becuase I don't see the point of debating outside of the confines of reality.

reply to post by SeekerofTruth101


I can't help but think your attempting to bait me. No one can be so naive and actually survive in any real world.

This has nothing to do with race, or money, this has to do with people showing up at your door, asking for your help but not being forthcoming with the personal details.

And SmedleyBurlap does NOT speak for any Canadians I know. This isn't about race, or skin even the way he's posting about the immigration of the past decade is to slant perceptions. Most of the Immigrants came from ASIA, but in the larger sense. Most came from INDIA/ME/Pakistan, which is part of ASIA. And the only complaint I have ever heard from other Canadians is that these people don't assimilate. Which is a choice all immigrants can make. But it's always the race card with these Smedley types.

So although I do support Canada helping others when their in need, I also support Canada helping Canadians. As far as this particular group of boat people go, If they can't be forthcoming with the details of their pasts then perhaps they do need to move on.

And nice of you to completely skip over my hitchhiker comment. No worries that was expected.

..Ex

ps. Smedley I was around during the Trudeau years, and before. I can tell you what Canada was like before the open door immigration policy and before the nutjobs decided Canada needs to be a melting pot. There was..little crime, little unemployment, little divorce and a whole lot better quality of life. But you know.. I noticed that after re reading some of your comments you are the biggest Racist in this thread.

..ex

[edit on 8/22/2010 by v3_exceed]