My situation, what would you do?

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Sorry double post...

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If this story is in fact true, then you only have one choice "GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN", In fact, I am curious why someone who is about to graduate from college would be asking this question in the first place. Your life is already in DANGER, In my opinion religion has nothing to do with this at all. Good Luck

Originally posted by FutureThinker
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If this story is in fact true, then you only have one choice "GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN", In fact, I am curious why someone who is about to graduate from college would be asking this question in the first place. Your life is already in DANGER, In my opinion religion has nothing to do with this at all. Good Luck

Agreed. Start moving

In the eyes of her family, she is already 'sullied' on account of you. This may result in her death in any case, for her reputation in the eyes of her family's peers, is destroyed, she is 'dirty'. Within that culture, death is her only salvation, for no-one else will want her and that alone will bring enormous dishonour to her family

reply to post by Dock9


Thank you for your thoughtful contribution. Changing our names and moving is about all I was able to come up with so far. I was not aware that even with a name change there would still be a trail for him to find us. This is the kind of information I'm looking for.

I'll be logging after this post and continue in the morning. I appreciate the insight of other posters asking me to think long and hard about whether or not it's worth it. It sometimes takes people besides your friends or family telling you something before you will consider it.

reply to post by Infinityobserver


Thank you and best wishes to you both

New Zealand is far away and always seeking migrants

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1. PLEASE keep in mind that fantasies are not necessarily grounded in reality AT ALL.

2. PLEASE remember that FAMILY is a huge thing in that culture and even for your girl--in spite of everything. For her to turn her back totally and forever on her family--would be something she would likely find impossible to thoroughly do.

3. IF she cannot 100% do it--something I think is impossible for her--then your life and her life will ALWAYS be one step, one bullet, one knife, one care 'accident,' away from ending ZAP! ZOT! DONE.

4. Life is cheap to them. Pride and honor are worth all the risks. They don't care.

5. Non-Muslims are only fit to be lied to, cheated and killed.

6. "Traitorous" or merely displeasing family members who offend sufficiently are only fit to be killed.

7. I think your reality testing probably needs to be professionally assessed quite seriously IF you are determined to maintain this relationship in the face of such risks.

8. IF you are utterly convinced that your girl will stay with you at all costs and 100% TOTALLY WITHOUT CONTACTING ANY FAMILY MEMBER EVER AGAIN--EVER--100%--[HIGHLY UNLIKELY TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON], THEN I supposed, if you had the resources, you could cover your tracks and move several places around the globe . . . buying new identities . . . living in out of the way places . . . briefly . . . burning all evidence each move etc. etc. until after maybe 10-20 years of such dramas with some early warning systems in place . . . you MIGHT be able to live in RELATIVE peace and security . . . sort of . . . mostly . . . maybe.

imho, of course.

reply to post by Infinityobserver


There are two paths here and and one is pretty bad.

One do as several ppl here have said and simply get out
of the situation.

Two is the hard part, that is set a trap for the killer with
the help of former military ppl if you know them.

Ppl who have dealt in death before.

The daughter would have to go along with it and odds are
this killer has other family members just as psycho as he is.

Also odds are the daughter would rather let her father kill
you than the reverse.

So odds are you are going down the road of number one
unless you feel some kind of urge to become one of the many
ppl that Islam is about to kill in the near future.

After all Sharia law makes honor killings ok in their books.

Most of europe will have Sharia courts soon.

Get out while you can.





[edit on 19-8-2010 by Ex_MislTech]

You have two options IMO

Discretely make him go away.

Or leave her.

These are old guard religious folk. Hes not going to let it go.

[edit on 05/24/2010 by FrancoUn-American]

Hey guys! The most important issue here is Islam is a religion of peace.

[snip]

[edit on 05/24/2010 by FrancoUn-American]



Removed off-topic comments.

[edit on 22/8/10 by masqua]

reply to post by Ex_MislTech

Two is the hard part, that is set a trap for the killer

Middle Easterners are tribal

Make an enemy of one. Blink. You now have 20 enemies. Blink again. You now have 50 enemies

Unless she has absolutely no contact WITH ANY OF HER FAMILY EVER AGAIN he will find you. I agree with the others get the hell out now! if you insist on staying with her against all logic and reason then turn him in for insurance fraud or make and anonymous call to Homeland security and report suspicious terrorist activity or something because you have to be proactive if your going to try and ride it out and he can't hurt you if he is in jail. But it doesn't mean he can;t get some other family member to uphold the family honor for him these tards live in the 6th century and have no concept of live and let live

The other thing is to get Frontsight trained with a hand gun and carry 24/7. Also might want to get some martial arts training to heighten your awareness. I suggest MMA with emphasis on self defense or Brazilian Ju Jitsu and Muay Thai both even if you have to take them separately if you can't find an MMA gym.

[edit on 19-8-2010 by hawkiye]

I have experience with something like this ex husband stocking his ex wife.

It will take moving to a distant country and name change. if she was coming to the US she would need a lawyer that is skilled in all this to do the paperwork.

She will have to leave the Muslim faith. This is the biggest danger for her as going to any Mosque in any country would put her with people that could out her.

Her accent will give away the country she is from so she would have to have a cover story as to who she is that matches her new identity.

If she had someone that could take about three pints of her blood over 6 months and freeze it then if she left her county and had someone report her missing then her ID was found with the blood but no body her father might believe her dead and never look for her.

Since i do not know what country we are talking about i don't know how easy it is to get fake ID or a passport in another name.

Then she could start a new life without as much fear of being found out.

Like many have said. Get out, NOW.
Don't linger, dont see her, cut all contact. Move on,
If all you say is true, you are putting this girl in jeopardy, for a relationship that will not likely last anyway, per the statistics. Cross cultural relationships do not tend to last, especially if there is a big difference in the cultures and background of the people.
I get the feeling you are caught up in the drama and not thinking so clearly.
Is it worth risking the life of this girl??? really?

i dont know why this is even a question in your mind. put the girl down gentle like,
and get backsteppin. today. or she could be the love of your life.



[edit on 19-8-2010 by p51mustang]

My personal opinion?
If you even have to THINK to ask on the survival forum of a website..
She ain't worth it.
Move along...

reply to post by Infinityobserver


With all of the anti-Islam/Muslims threads, this one seems like it is covertly (though not so much) trying to name all of the negative stereo types that westerners associate with Muslims. As far as proof, I'm sure that if a Muslim man murdered someone by shooting them in the back, yet was cleared of wrong-doing, it would be plastered on the news. In fact, it would be surprising if it wasn't headline news on FOX, though shocking if it didn't even make the local news. As far as maintaining your anonymity, names can be blacked out and links hidden.

--airspoon

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Seriously, if anyone's a troll here it's you. All you have done is talk crap about my story being unbelievable and not even addressing the actual topic of the post.

Think about what you just said. It's ok for me to black out names and information. Then how would you truly know what were the names behind the ink hmm? It was in the local news, not sure about mainstream though.

I believe my responses have shown that I have taken considerable time to contemplate my options here. I'd appreciate if you'd do the same before posting again. I'd also say to you that stereotypes exist for a reason.



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I respect you opinion but I will have to disagree. I did not ask whether or not she is worth all the danger or if I truly love her. While that is definitely something I should think long and hard about it was not the reason I made this thread.

I was just curious about what other people would do in this situation or how they might have handled a similar circumstance in their own life. I don't see how me seeking advice on this issue questions my love for her.

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