Cop shoots and kills suspect after being attacked.

EDIT: Some people dont understand the point of this thread. It is to show people WHY cops are always on edge and WHY they do the things they do.
Not a Cop Hate Thread.

This cop did what he did because of crazy people on the street and had to fight for his life.

This people is the reason cops overreact, how can they be sure a traffic stop wont turn into this?

Anderson told Mallory to get down on his knees several times, orders that Mallory did not heed, according to police officials and video released Friday. The officer deployed his Taser, which appeared to have no effect on the suspect because one of the two prongs missed him and the electrical connection was not completed, Davenport police Capt. David Struckman said. Mallory then attacked Anderson, punching the officer, biting the officer's face and slamming the officer's head against the concrete, officials said. The suspect was on top of the officer and choking him when East Moline police Det. Jim Weakley arrived on the scene. The Davenport police officer unholstered his gun and shot the suspect, Donchez said

IF your wondering why the cop stopped for no apparent reason it is becasue there was a call about a Man beating up a woman and the man on the sidewalk matched the description.
Go to 1:13 to hear him say "You where just in a fight"





[edit on 17-8-2010 by gpena]

[edit on 17-8-2010 by gpena]

[edit on 17-8-2010 by gpena]

That's one of the many variables involved in excessive force, isnt it?

Because a cop never knows what call will turn into a life or death situation they have to make routine traffic stops in pairs or more. They have to walk up to the car with their hand on their gun or taser. They are always on edge looking for anything that might threaten their life and as a consequence shooting people holding phones or hairbrushes. Tasing old ladies in wheelchairs. Beating teenage girls unconscious.

Chicken or egg I guess. Is a cop a crazed nut before becoming a cop or does the constant stresses of being a cop make a perfectly normal guy a crazed nut?

Personally, I can only tolerate so many drunk tank shuttle rides, so many calls to the same white trash domestic dispute, so many calls to pick up the same angry druggie yelling in the street at 2AM before I go dead cold inside and stop caring.

Maybe a limit on how long one can serve as a beat cop? They already have psych evaluations and vacation but obviously that isnt enough for some of them.

I have a friend right now in the academy to be a state cop. Almost overnight he went from being a great nice guy to a raging doucebag. He's home on weekends and drinks then rambles on about how he can't wait to bust heads and speed down highways. He wasnt like that before the academy. Or maybe he was and just kept it to himself? A certain amount of like-minded bravado among his fellow rookies encouraging the bad attitude? Who knows.

Just added this info

Anderson told Mallory to get down on his knees several times, orders that Mallory did not heed, according to police officials and video released Friday. The officer deployed his Taser, which appeared to have no effect on the suspect because one of the two prongs missed him and the electrical connection was not completed, Davenport police Capt. David Struckman said. Mallory then attacked Anderson, punching the officer, biting the officer's face and slamming the officer's head against the concrete, officials said. The suspect was on top of the officer and choking him when East Moline police Det. Jim Weakley arrived on the scene. The Davenport police officer unholstered his gun and shot the suspect, Donchez said

reply to post by gpena


A policeman saved my life! Another cop was beating me quite literally to death. And his partner said to him, "That's enough".

So you see they really help people.

Originally posted by chorizo4
reply to post by gpena

 

A policeman saved my life! Another cop was beating me quite literally to death. And his partner said to him, "That's enough".

So you see they really help people.

Thats crazy.

If you dont mind me asking, what did you do and how old were you?

So this justifies their 'overreactions'? Bollocks. They can use all the force they need to defend their and innocent lives when they need to. Cops however have shown over and over again that they do it just for the fun of it or something to people who pose no danger to anyone. for the thread.

Originally posted by gpena

Originally posted by chorizo4
reply to post by gpena

 

A policeman saved my life! Another cop was beating me quite literally to death. And his partner said to him, "That's enough".

So you see they really help people.

Thats crazy.

If you dont mind me asking, what did you do and how old were you?

Let's hear your story .

Originally posted by PsykoOps
So this justifies their 'overreactions'? Bollocks. They can use all the force they need to defend their and innocent lives when they need to. Cops however have shown over and over again that they do it just for the fun of it or something to people who pose no danger to anyone.

for the thread.

Not in this case.

This people is the reason cops overreact, how can they be sure a traffic stop wont turn into this?

That's from your OP.

I dont really get the point of your post you seem to want to provoke people who dislike cops and their actions and at the same time defend cops using a video that shows lethal force being used on a deranged man.

I know that all policemen and women are not bad and that a few bad eggs ruin it for all of them however you have made a poor point and this is trolling at its best if you ask me, peace

Originally posted by On the level
I dont really get the point of your post you seem to want to provoke people who dislike cops and their actions and at the same time defend cops using a video that shows lethal force being used on a deranged man.

I know that all policemen and women are not bad and that a few bad eggs ruin it for all of them however you have made a poor point and this is trolling at its best if you ask me, peace

To bring people in who hate cops and think they all abuse there powers/privileges, only to show them this video which is the reason cops are like that.

And people wonder why a cop will draw there gun at a traffic stop.

Yet another person who can barely form a sentence, let alone spell basic words properly, is coming onto ATS to support criminal actions of cops. Yeah, sorry to "go there", but it seems to be a reoccurring theme amongst threads of this nature. Poor grammar, misspelling of common words, etc.

Anyway.... Somehow this video justifies the barrage of videos depicting assault, battery and even murder committed by rogue police.

Thanks for telling us all, "How it is", and I'm sure we will all understand in due time.



Risk in one's career choice has never been a justification for criminal actions. Never. The Vietnam war was an absolutely horrible time for everyone involved, but it never justified the brutal crimes committed against the people in that region. Raping children, slaughtering whole villages. This was never justified, or "excused", because the soldiers "had it rough". For that matter, the way in which the NVA treated POWs was not justified, either.

Some people just need to get over themselves, and realize excusing crimes does nothing, while scrutiny and integrity is of the utmost importance in our society, in this critical time.



[edit on 17-8-2010 by SyphonX]

Can anyone tell me what this guy did to deserve being arrested? It looks to me he's just walking down the street.

I didn't see the guy doing anything wrong. A cop shouldn't have the right to order anyone down on their knees just because they fit a description. The cop should have approached the guy with respect and dignity until he is an official suspect and then even still. From what I saw, the cop assaulted that man and he simply applied force back. This is what needs to happen. The police aren't the end all, be all and their safety isn't more important than your liberty.

--airspoon

Edit to add:



[edit on 17-8-2010 by airspoon]

reply to post by gpena


Its funny if this happened in the UK, which it does on a very regular basis the guy would still be alive, the cops would be fine and all that would have been discharged is CS Gas or a taser. I believe arming police gives an option in some cases that is too quickly used and leads to serious injury or death. This guy was obviously out of it and now he is dead, isnt what I would call a result or a video to give examples of why police sometimes act the way they do. The reason they act the way they do is often character faults that make them want to join the force in the first place. As some of the previous posters have said people can be douchebags before they get a badge and after become the type of people that have no place being armed or having a shred of power

reply to post by gpena


You should have posted THIS video to go with your Title.....

And then you posted this too that thread/video..make up your mind..

www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 17-8-2010 by baddmove]

reply to post by gpena

This people is the reason cops overreact, how can they be sure a traffic stop wont turn into this?

This is nothing more than a cowards argument. Do we truly want cowards for law enforcement officers?

Consider these statistics:

According to The Officer Down Memorial Page, in 2005 a total of 165 police officers were killed "in the line of duty". However, of those deaths, it should be noted that 20 were due to heart attacks, 7 caused by accidental gunfire, 11 were struck by a vehicle, as opposed to the 15 killed by vehicular assault, 1 was killed in training, 2 were counted as 9/11 related illnesses, 34 from automobile accidents, 4 from motorcycle accidents, 2 from aircraft accidents, 5 from vehicular pursuits, 4 from falling, 1 from a bomb, 2 drowned, 3 simply listed as "duty related illnesses, and the remainder, 53 from gunfire.

According to The Journal of Police Science an article by W.C. Terry, titled; The Empirical Evidence, Journal of Police Science and Administration, Volume 9 issue 1 dated (1981) makes this claim:

There are typically around 300 reported police suicides each year in the USA, usually roughly double the number of police officers that are killed in the line of duty. The suicide rate among police officers varies around 29 per 100,000 in the United States, nearly two and a half times the rate in the overall population (typically about 12 in 100,000).

So, at least according to this article, police officers are more inclined to kill themselves than they are to be killed by someone else. According to The Daily Beast a list compiled to illustrate the 20 most deadly occupations, lists police officers as number 12 averaging 16 deaths per 100,000. Contrast that with the number 1 most deadly occupation, which is according to this article, Fisherman where an average of 129 fisherman to every 100,000 are killed each year. Loggers come in at number 2 with an average of 116 per 100,000 and Farmers and Ranchers come in at number 3, averaging 40 per 100,000 each year.

MSN features an article that cites the Bureau of Labor Statistics in 2002, and while that top ten list differs with the top 20 featured in The Daily Beast as to the numbers and order of professions, the occupations remain the same, and of course, police officers are not even cited on that top 10 most deadly professions list.

A Wikipedia regarding police officers makes this claim:

Although individual policemen and institutional public relations typically cite the risks of being killed in the line of duty as the predominant source of stress for individual policemen, there is significant controversy regarding the causes of personal workplace stress due to the fact that the actual risk of being killed is so small relative to other occupations.

And follows that with this paragraph:

It is charged that the myth of the high risks of occupational mortality connected with police work is often propagated by the law enforcement community as part of its institutional advancement and a central element in its public relations. Actual homicides of police are comparatively rare, but the reports of such incidents are typically reported in the press along with quotes by police officials or police officer family members stressing the notion that police officers 'put their lives on the line for the public' or 'risk their lives everyday', making it look like individual policemen routinely place themselves in mortal danger for low pay and little recognition, and that the view of police work as 'combat' is the source of police occupational stress indications.

If police officers are so afraid of doing their jobs that they feel compelled to pull their weapons on a routine traffic stop then the operative regarding these police officers is fear, not courage, and this is bad news for us all.

I don't see any " Cop viciously attacks pedestrians for no reasons"

Why ?

First : Cop have been called for a fight and this guy fit the suspect description, i do concede that the first contact between the cop and the guy was hard ( The cop YELLING loudly ) BUT the guy ATTACKED the cop first !!!

READ CAREFULLY THE BOLD WORD

Anderson told Mallory to get down on his knees several times, orders that Mallory did not heed, according to police officials and video released Friday. The officer deployed his Taser, which appeared to have no effect on the suspect because one of the two prongs missed him and the electrical connection was not completed, Davenport police Capt. David Struckman said. Mallory then attacked Anderson, punching the officer, biting the officer's face and slamming the officer's head against the concrete, officials said. The suspect was on top of the officer and choking him when East Moline police Det. Jim Weakley arrived on the scene. The Davenport police officer unholstered his gun and shot the suspect, Donchez said

I am FAR to be a cop fan but i think the cops in this video use his gun for a genuine reason

For the god sake the guy : Mallory then attacked Anderson, punching the officer, biting the officer's face and slamming the officer's head against the concrete

What would you want the cop to do ? Sing a song to calm the dude bitting his face? Make apologize to the crazy dude hitting his head to the concrete ?

im serious What YOU want the cop to do ?

how YOU have dealed with a 6 foot tall big dude punching you, biting your face and slamming your head against the concrete

?

Try to be fair and not just going into a hate cop thread

Originally posted by B3lz3buth
I don't see any " Cop viciously attacks pedestrians for no reasons"

Why ?

First : Cop have been called for a fight and this guy fit the suspect description, i do concede that the first contact between the cop and the guy was hard ( The cop YELLING loudly ) BUT the guy ATTACKED the cop first !!!

READ CAREFULLY THE BOLD WORD

Anderson told Mallory to get down on his knees several times, orders that Mallory did not heed, according to police officials and video released Friday. The officer deployed his Taser, which appeared to have no effect on the suspect because one of the two prongs missed him and the electrical connection was not completed, Davenport police Capt. David Struckman said. Mallory then attacked Anderson, punching the officer, biting the officer's face and slamming the officer's head against the concrete, officials said. The suspect was on top of the officer and choking him when East Moline police Det. Jim Weakley arrived on the scene. The Davenport police officer unholstered his gun and shot the suspect, Donchez said

I am FAR to be a cop fan but i think the cops in this video use his gun for a genuine reason

For the god sake the guy : Mallory then attacked Anderson, punching the officer, biting the officer's face and slamming the officer's head against the concrete

What would you want the cop to do ? Sing a song to calm the dude bitting his face? Make apologize to the crazy dude hitting his head to the concrete ?

im serious What YOU want the cop to do ?

how YOU have dealed with a 6 foot tall big dude punching you, biting your face and slamming your head against the concrete

?

Try to be fair and not just going into a hate cop thread

Thank you!!! Finally someone who understands.

What do people honestly think he should of done?
The guy was twice his size, the suspect kept walking backwards toward the officer,waiting to attack. And once the taser missed his intentions where to kill that cop.

Originally posted by The_Gypsy
Can anyone tell me what this guy did to deserve being arrested? It looks to me he's just walking down the street.

Read the OP.