Calling All Republicans To Voice Concerns Over Spending.

House passes $600 million border security bill

This thread has been created for the benefit of our fellow Republicans to allow them the opportunity to voice their concerns and anger over this new Bill which means more spending in Washington.

Now for anyone who even follows current events in even the slightest amount, or who even co-exists on a daily basis among other human beings, is FULLY aware that there is a VERY HEATED concern among Republicans involving spending money in Washington. Per the Republicans, it is THE SPENDING OF MONEY PERIOD that angers them. For whatever the reason may be, for good, or for bad, they have voiced their concerns already that they DO NOT want to see any more spending in Washington.

So, in good sport, I would like to kindly offer our fellow Republicans a thread in which they can voice their concerns and anger over this newest Bill which means MORE SPENDING in Washington. Please feel free to express your DEEP concerns and DEEP anger over the spending that this Bill will now cause Washington to do.

The link below will provide any additional information in regards to the Bill.

Thank you, and let out as much steam as necessary in regards to the spending that will be caused by this newest Bill.

www.cnn.com...

I believe it was Republican Dick Cheney, then working for President Ronald Reagan, that said "Reagan has proven that a high deficit does not matter when concerning the economy", or words to that effect.

Look it up if yo don't believe.

So following the advice of the former Republican Vice, I don't think we have to worry about high deficit numbers. Its the Republican way.

Just to make it clear, I voted for Reagan, and Bush (hate to admit).

In his own account, Mr O'Neill discovers the hard line on tax cuts is coming from Mr Cheney. Not knowing he was in his last weeks as Treasury secretary, he went to see the vice president expecting to get a sympathetic hearing for his concerns over the deficit. Instead he is told: "You know, Paul, Reagan proved that deficits don't matter. We won the mid-term elections, this is our due."

There's the quote, here's the link.

The Republican way, DEFICIT's DON'T MATTER!

[edit on 12-8-2010 by ErEhWoN]

reply to post by ErEhWoN


An EXCELLENT contribution to my thread, thank you.

I welcome all input similar to that as well as the concerns and anger from the Republican side.

This is an equal opportunity thread!! Everyone is welcome!

Thank you again.

I can't help but wonder if the money would have not been better spent in getting rid of some of the gangs along the border.

IMO, this would disrupt the distribution line between the cartels in Mexico and the US gangs that are moving the cartel's merchandise.

Most of the security on the border is wanted, according to most Republicans, because of the violence or potential spill over on the border.

In other words, it all related to the war on drugs.

That is why I feel they are merely throwing money at the problem. The money is to basically quiet the critics and also for election purposes. Violence on the border will continue until the war on drugs in Mexico/US is solved.

reply to post by Baloney


You are quite welcome.

I must say, I don't like your ATTITUDE! (Sarcasm)

Honestly, it is refreshing to see someone not blow up and rant over a political issue. Your response was unforeseen, but very welcome.

Kudos to you, good luck with your thread. I hope to see more level headed discussion on politics, but I won't hold my breath.

reply to post by Baloney


I thought is was the republican party that was screaming for the government to do something about border security. Then, when the government makes an attempt to resolve the problem, the republican party is screaming, "don't spend any money doing it." What a bunch of hypocrites!

Besides that, I think you're about six or eight years late to start screaming about not spending money. Apparently you were asleep when Bush was bankrupting the country.

I think you may be a day late and a dollar short on this one.

They're just spending fiat money anyway, so perhaps instead of ranting or complaining, or softly trolling republicans over $600m (a paltry sum in the Trillions in debt) perhaps you should learn the real problem with the money the U.S. government spends.

Or, if you already know that I speak of the banking cartel that owns this government, perhaps you should try to educate people; rather than waste energy on partisan trolling.

Originally posted by Flatfish
reply to post by Baloney

 

I thought is was the republican party that was screaming for the government to do something about border security. Then, when the government makes an attempt to resolve the problem, the republican party is screaming, "don't spend any money doing it." What a bunch of hypocrites!

Besides that, I think you're about six or eight years late to start screaming about not spending money. Apparently you were asleep when Bush was bankrupting the country.

I think you may be a day late and a dollar short on this one.

I agree COMPLETELY with you, thank you.

In addition, I am fully aware of the RUTHLESS spending by our previous President. It is obvious by the situation we currently find ourselves in.

But I wish to allow our fellow Republicans the chance to vent their anger on the spending caused by this Bill. I know their anger is VERY GREAT over spending in Washington, therefore my thread for them to vent.

I do stand 100% in agreement with the points that you contributed. Thank you again.

In regards to the CNN link that I provided, I am also VERY curious as to the reasoning behind this information pasted below that was found in that news article:

------Quote From CNN news article:
A Republican leadership source said Tuesday night that Republicans were likely to go along with passing the measure by unanimous consent.

This CANNOT BE!!

Why am I reading this, it DOES NOT make sense at all.

Why would they be so DEEPLY CONCERNED and ANGERED by spending in Washington, YET be sending out vibes that they intend to vote UNANIMOUSLY in favor of PASSING this Bill???

I am CONFUSED, maybe what I am hearing about the HYPOCRISY by the Republicans is quite true.

Opinions appreciated, as I am now confused on what they are thinking.





[edit on 12-8-2010 by Baloney]

Originally posted by ErEhWoN
I believe it was Republican Dick Cheney, then working for President Ronald Reagan, that said "Reagan has proven that a high deficit does not matter when concerning the economy", or words to that effect.

Look it up if yo don't believe.

So following the advice of the former Republican Vice, I don't think we have to worry about high deficit numbers. Its the Republican way.

Just to make it clear, I voted for Reagan, and Bush (hate to admit).

In his own account, Mr O'Neill discovers the hard line on tax cuts is coming from Mr Cheney. Not knowing he was in his last weeks as Treasury secretary, he went to see the vice president expecting to get a sympathetic hearing for his concerns over the deficit. Instead he is told: "You know, Paul, Reagan proved that deficits don't matter. We won the mid-term elections, this is our due."

There's the quote, here's the link.

The Republican way, DEFICIT's DON'T MATTER!

[edit on 12-8-2010 by ErEhWoN]

Your information has been CONFIRMED, and is true.

Now in addition to that CONFIRMED information, and the Republicans sending out vibes that they will vote UNANIMOUSLY in favor of passing a bill for MORE SPENDING, I am starting to become VERY CONFUSED on the Republicans stance and apparent ANGER of spending in Washington. It is all starting to seem as if there is some STRANGE agenda going on in the Republican camp.

Or perhaps they may be a party consisting of true hypocrites.

Please Republicans, this CANNOT BE!! What is GOING ON!! Please do clarify this unbelievable confusion, thank you.

This is easy. And it wouldn't cost anything. Instead of spending more money, we could redirect existing military and national guard currently overseas to the border. Less interfering where we aren't wanted, and more security here.

Here is an analogy.

Bush kills a man and goes to court. The court finds that because he was President and the executive branch of the government, he is the epitome of our law enforcement, hence was righteous in his actions.

Obama kills a man and gets on the stand and states "Bush did it!"

Now, we have two supposed "Wars" that have NOT been declared. We have over 700 bases in 130+ countries. TOTALLY against the Constitution.

We have socialist systems that are TOTALLY against the Constitution.

And you bring to the table an argument that SPENDING on the CONSTITUTIONAL MANDATE to protect our borders from INVADERS.

When will intellectual lightweights begin to use their GOD GIVEN rights to pick up a book and READ.

reply to post by Baloney


The Republican stance is easy to figure.

Profits before people.

Deficit spending when they are in charge, delay and resistance when not.

Rinse and repeat.

reply to post by Tyrannyispeace


Let us please remain focused on the topic, thank you.

The topic for this thread involves the deep anger and concerns from Republicans in regards to SPENDING in Washington. This thread exists primarily to give Republicans the opportunity to vent over this additional SPENDING by Washington.

The thread will also allow all input that either supports or conflicts with the ever growing possibility of the Republican camp consisting of hypocrites.

Thank you for participating, but lets kindly remain focused on the topic.



[edit on 12-8-2010 by Baloney]

Originally posted by ErEhWoN
reply to post by Baloney

 

The Republican stance is easy to figure.

Profits before people.

Deficit spending when they are in charge, delay and resistance when not.

Rinse and repeat.

An EXCELLENT contribution, thank you.

I am beginning to hear some alarming things concerning the Republican camp that involves current and past actions.

Republicans, please feel free to elaborate on that interesting contribution, and clarify this negative aspect in regards to the Republican camp.

Reply to post by Baloney

It's not just republicans who are or have complained about spending. Anyone with a brain should be concerned about how congress, both democrats and republicans, toss money at anything and everything like it grows on trees. Our country is broke. We have more going out than we do coming in. Yet instead of people comprehending this tiny little fact they'd rather play the blame game. Tell you what, I'm sick of it. Neither side is blameless. Both sides do it. Both blame the other side to take attention off themselves. And in the meantime more and more money gets tossed around like candy at a fair parade.


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reply to post by Baloney


Of course.

Republican bashing is EXCELLENT contribution; while pointing out that this spending in particular is constitutionally mandated as per the requirement of the federal government to regulate the national borders is off topic.



Remove brain.
Bash Republicans.
Rinse and repeat.


The Democrats railed against the wars and the spending on illegal conflicts and yet they continue. Where's your outrage there?

Where's your outrage that it's the Federal Reserves system of profit making through money magic and book-cooking that inflates the dollar and destroys its value.

That $600m would have been a fraction of that if the FR wasn't continuing the same disastrous central banking scam that happened several time previously in this country.

No! Forget facts and logic. Forget the truth and the real enemies of the Republic.


HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE.

I did respond to the topic of the discussion.

Republican bashing aside.

I am ALL for spending, if it is found within the CONSTITUTION.


Here, let me help you understand the seriousness about our borders and the protection afforded us to this VERY COMPONENT within the Constitution.

The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing
shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to
the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a tax or duty may be imposed
on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep
Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact
with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually
invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican
Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on
Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature
cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions

WOW, from the CONSTITUTION!

www.usconstitution.net...

[edit on 12-8-2010 by Tyrannyispeace]

Originally posted by Jenna
Reply to post by Baloney

 

It's not just republicans who are or have complained about spending. Anyone with a brain should be concerned about how congress, both democrats and republicans, toss money at anything and everything like it grows on trees. Our country is broke. We have more going out than we do coming in. Yet instead of people comprehending this tiny little fact they'd rather play the blame game. Tell you what, I'm sick of it. Neither side is blameless. Both sides do it. Both blame the other side to take attention off themselves. And in the meantime more and more money gets tossed around like candy at a fair parade.

 

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BUT, the republicans have been VERY FIRM in their stance AGAINST Washington SPENDING ANY MONEY!!! Certainty, this Bill is AGAINST what the republicans have been RALLYING and SCREAMING about lately. They have been VERY LOUD on this topic, their is NO mistake about that.

It simply cannot be denied that the republicans have been VERY FIRM, and VERY OUTSPOKEN and VERY ANGRY about ANY FURTHER SPENDING in Washington!!

Where is their VOICE, and YOUR voices NOW?

I am VERY CONFUSED. It is causing, ER, I mean it is FORCING me to see them as nothing but HYPOCRITES.

Please tell me I am incorrect.

reply to post by eNumbra


This has not a THING to do about hate or anything else that your post appears to mention. So there is surely no need for anyone to get all worked up over anything.

I would like to remind you again that we must remain focused on the topic and not try to get side-tracked as a result of personal biases.

I would like to ask again to all of the republicans present here, of their views and/or facts that can help eliminate my quickly developing opinion that the republicans are nothing but a camp of hypocrites.

I wish to see the issue more clearly in the event that I am in the fog. I am requesting republican assistance here on that issue.

My only interest is in finding THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER.

Thanks.

[edit on 12-8-2010 by Baloney]