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Calling all Debunkers, and anyone who thinks Holocaust Denial is offensive, debunk this!

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posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 06:18 PM
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Unfortunatley, to the type of disgusting slime that post these threads, yes, all of the above would be okay. And probably more. And the reason why it's okay is because it's Jews. That is the only reason. These type of people spend all day dreaming of ways to deny the Holocaust because they have a boner for Nazi Germany, or Islam, or something.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 06:31 PM
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I've read the thread, laughed at some of the responses from the Holocaust deniers. You guys really are cheap entertainment.

This was touched on, but I really hoped it was carried further.

Hair, clothing, personal property collected in bulk has been mentioned.

Anyone here have a clue why Swiss coins contain mercury? Yeah, this is a fact, even the Swiss now admit it. Germany doesn't strike me as a huge gold producer. Now, I wonder....



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by hinky
I've read the thread, laughed at some of the responses from the Holocaust deniers. You guys really are cheap entertainment.

This was touched on, but I really hoped it was carried further.

Hair, clothing, personal property collected in bulk has been mentioned.

Anyone here have a clue why Swiss coins contain mercury? Yeah, this is a fact, even the Swiss now admit it. Germany doesn't strike me as a huge gold producer. Now, I wonder....



I like your post but as someone currently residing in Switzerland I'd have to strongly disagree with the coin claim. Basically because I'm pretty sure that Switzerland did not produce any Gold Coins ( certainly not between 38 and 47). The physical gold issued by that state, the so called "Vreneli" was high-grade (99.something) and couldn't have mercury in it. The way I remember the Nazis smelted it themselves (part of Bernhard program? not sure anymore...) and then sold it to the Swiss (in order for the Swiss to sell it on the world market)...

The bulk of the assets held in Switzerland in connection with the Holocaust were those of the people who died or couldn't produce documents to reclaim them. I would be highly surprised to find any legitimate source detailing the Swiss smelting concentration camp teeth... But do surprise me if that's the case....



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 06:45 PM
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The truth, as usual, is somewhere in the middle.


xkcd-690



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 06:56 PM
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You should probably check your collection of Vrenelis dated 1935-L which were minted in 1945-47.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 06:59 PM
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I know if someone did something horrible to me I'd never want it done to someone else. When a former gf cheated on me, it destroyed me, and I swore that I'd never cheat on someone close me. When I was real young, I used to get into fights a lot. I was a real hot head until one day I met my match, and that's when I swore off fighting. The death of suppose 6 million people is beyond reprehensible. It affects the deep psyche of a collective and makes one realize how fragile things are. If it were true, then I would think all those people would realize that destruction, death, revenge don't solve anything, but the very people that supposedly suffered all that are themselves the ones doing it to others. 6 million of them died? lol, no way.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by hinky
reply to post by NichirasuKenshin
 


You should probably check your collection of Vrenelis dated 1935-L which were minted in 1945-47.



Uhm... I'm pretty sure I got this right in my memory. In 1945-1947 it was something like 200'000 Vrenelis, right? But those were def. minted out of gold-bars that were pre 39 and therefore can not be gold fro jewish teeth. Or did I get that wrong?

I think the Americans took something like 200 or 250 mio. gold Francs for those transactions from the swiss and were satisfyed. I don't recall the "camp dental gold"... Can you source that? I'd be really interested.

and also... I don't any gold.. Neither did I say I'm swiss. I hope I read you correctly when I took that as a jovial comment....

[edit on 7-8-2010 by NichirasuKenshin]



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:08 PM
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Yeah, I've always envisioned that there is a very special place in hell for Deniers. Even lower than defense lawyers, who know their client did the crime, but enjoy the challenge.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:08 PM
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Try understanding the israeli then..



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:10 PM
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How old are you?

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posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by Yissachar1
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How old are you?

X



going on 30. Why?



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:28 PM
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"Rather than love, than money, than faith, than fame, than fairness, comfort or security... give me truth!" Quote by Henry David Thoreau expanded by Christopher McCandless and further expanded by Y.T. Bonus if you know the book the character YT comes from. If they want a one world government, transparency shouldn`t be an issue. There would be no "enemy" to have to hide our secrets from, right? Any homegrown terrorists would be facing the whole world... the brute force alone would negate the need for any secrecy. This is why the NWO will never work that way. A more appropriate scenario would be something like what we find in Orwell`s 1984, with 3 superpowers in a perpetual state of war with one power and alliance with the other. Complete control of the media would be necessary to propagate such an illusion, and secrecy would be at such pervasive levels that no one person would know the whole truth, or even half. It could be that dependance on a supercomputer would be required. Either way, if they say they do want a one world government, let`s get the ball rolling and start by telling the truth. This phrase even works for corrupt officials: "The truth shall set you free." Will there be consequences? Yes. Will it be potentially disasterous? Yes. But if you wanna make an omelet... how does that go again?


 
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posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by zcflint05
reply to post by stars15k
 


Unfortunatley, to the type of disgusting slime that post these threads, yes, all of the above would be okay. And probably more. And the reason why it's okay is because it's Jews. That is the only reason. These type of people spend all day dreaming of ways to deny the Holocaust because they have a boner for Nazi Germany, or Islam, or something.


you have a delusional outlook on the world, because no where in my thread did I mention that I have a boner for Nazi Germany or Islam. But you prob. have a boner for making up lies about intellectual subjects that you can not handle.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
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He has some valid points, but my opinion, when I watched them years ago, was that he leaned far to hard to the other side. The truth, as usual, is somewhere in the middle.


[edit on 8/7/2010 by ~Lucidity]


Sorry Lucidity, the 'truth' is wherever it is. This false maxim of the "middle-course" is a Hegelian distortion of real critical thinking. The Hegelian dialectic sets two pre-meditated 'extremes' Thesis / AntiThesis -- suggesting that the only 'reasonable' position is a compromise or "Synthesis" of the two... which was the target in the first place. It is the reason and one method by which we have been converted, as a country, into a soviet police state.

Compare the Bill of rights to the Communist manifesto and you have your standard to guage... Are we better off as a country in a condition halfway between the two? Maybe we would as we are quite a bit more about the Manifesto than the Bill of Rights now...

This whole 'middle-ground' is where reason's found is... bunkum. I want my drinking water pure please. Thank you.

Same thing with the so-called holocaust and the apparant Jewish copyright upon this gross exaggeration.

Its become our national religion for Pete's sake.. HoloCaustianity? enough already.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:31 PM
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news flash: I think for myself, and don't listen to the "godfather of revision" who by the way I've never heard before. I already gave you my reasons as to why the letter is most definitely a forgery and so if you are going to ignore that then I am through talking to you.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by Kram09
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I knew you were going to mention that!

That's hardly evidence of windows actually throughout the chamber is it? That's what I meant by windows.

Of course there was a window on the door, so they could check to make sure all the prisoners were dead and also so some doctors and the like could observe the gassings and see how effective it was, how long it took them to die etc.


Do I have to draw you a map? "Of course there was a window in the door, so they could check to make sure all the prisoners were dead." So, you are trying to rationalize why there is a glass window in a supposed gas chamber, and I mentioned that the room where the door is located is in the back of the building. So, if guards were observing through the window, they are either observing into the room where there is nothing but a glass window door that locks from the inside (meaning the prisoners would be able to unlock it), or, even more ridiculously, the guards would be in the small back room while the guards on the roof dropped pellets into the larger chamber (which was a reconstruction as documented in the Cole video).



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:43 PM
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Originally posted by filosophia
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news flash: I think for myself, and don't listen to the "godfather of revision" who by the way I've never heard before. I already gave you my reasons as to why the letter is most definitely a forgery and so if you are going to ignore that then I am through talking to you.


So just to make that clear: Although Zundel (the guy that was personally aquainted and was most responsible for David Cole's fame - for god's sake Zundel is the guy in Auschwitz in the Video with Cole) says that he believes the letter to be true and the "conversion" of Cole to be legit you see it otherwise?

You gave no reasons for it being a forgery besides the fact that Cole wrote the letter "in hiding". How is that a reason to call that a forgery?



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:53 PM
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Palestine is proof to me nothing was learned and there is no emulation or empathy.
Israel is proof to me that the National Socialist mind set is still at large.
www.jewsnotzionists.org...

As long as there are profits being made by the use of prophets being played, nothing will be as it should be.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 08:01 PM
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Where are the stories from the Holocaust of mass break outs and riots ? I know for a fact if I saw my mother and sister going into a gas chamber I would not sit around and go quietly into the night.

Surely if there were 6 million that would constitute a possible army of 1 million fit and able Jewish men ? 1 million would be enough to over run any German camp and retake your women and children back if horrific things were happenign to them.

To sit back and watch 6 million of my countrymen die and not fight back would indicate something to you wouldn't it ? I ask you this...if you looked at me whilst I walked to my death and turned away, did nothing, knew that was your fate, still did nothing then what kind of person are you ? no I don't think people enmasse would do this.

I think there were no mass insurrections because the camps were in fact detention camps for the homeless and displaced. I think some 100's of thousands did perish no doubt but due to dysentery and diseases. The Germans were guilty of neglect and not caring for these peoples and for this they deserved to be punished I have no doubt, but don't lie to me about crap that is so easily dismissed as fabrication.

Fabrication = testimony of people at the Nuremberg trials were it was claimed a Nazi Guard ripped a child in half, you try that with even a cat and you will see its lies. The simple fact why would you use Zyklon B to kill people when it was designed to kill fleas and when a simple piping of a trucks exhaust into the chamber would of been much cheaper and easier to accomplish the alleged mass death.

No sir I think something is wrong with the fact we cannot even debate this without being thrown in jail in certain countries, I ask you to consider that the facts are not as the main stream portrays to us and to forget your alignments and racial alliances and consider for a minute other lies we have been told about history. Then you will conclude as I have, trust only that which you see with your own eyes and suspect everything that has a Country attached to it.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 08:15 PM
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Whether you like it or not, my family sufferd at your expense.. When the world needs a saviour God sends a Jew.. Yeshua...



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