Hidden Hand Message - Law Of One - Discussion!

IMO this site constitutes the distillation of belief systems and also the pinnacle of distortions leading to maximum filtration. We are very near harvest.

Hidden Hand mentioned the possibilty of a future oppurtunity to ask more questions. I'm not sure if it will be necessary. Hidden hand or any other representative of that memory complex would have to maintain and or intensify confusion in order to maximize filtration. They could lead us into a deeper understanding and simultaneously create a deeper deception. The bottom line is that the creator is the only one that can walk the line between positive and negative energy and reap righteousness. "My sheep know My voice" the distinction between voices must grow ever more subtle in order to facilitate maximum filtration.

Originally posted by HarryJoy
IMO this site constitutes the distillation of belief systems and also the pinnacle of distortions leading to maximum filtration. We are very near harvest.

What is Harvest to you?

In both physical and spiritual?

reply to post by LeoVirgo


I was hoping you would not ask but you did, for thought as one has the power through will to provide or create, but existance does not conform only to those thoughts of selfs oneness as control or change, for oneness to god does not make us as god or god, the creation of gods design being infinate and inmeasureable where spirit of self as oneness shows self that confirmation or belief that god is real, by the miracles and challenges that then may be thought of as actions being created by self through self as oneness to god, where god still has final desicion as a seperateness to that oneness of all conformaty and role of lifes existance in making. still this may not be as example for an answer, but think miracles of life come to all not as through ones will as thoughts alone but through power that god as himself gives to all. the main purpose being to find that connection with god but not as then overuling of all that god is.

reply to post by Unity_99


"But there is also more, in that true Higher Ups are very much in control, far more in control of every detail, every outcome, than we can know. This doesn't mean they approve the negative behaviors, but it does mean that someone's attempt to harm does not carry the weight to harm and anyone, including the bloodlines can only attempt but really don't have the power or the say they think."

I replied to you Unity, though I feel I have addressed LeoVirgo also.

The Principalities of Legion have all the energetic power we grant them. And we grant them plenty of 'allowance' as a mass consciousness every single day.

From an eternal perspective in the Divine Plan, yes we are all looked after and guided, however this does not exempt us from the spiritual consequences as a result of individual wilful negative actions and the forsaking of knowledge in chosen ignorance, denial and apathy. Evil is always evil and good is always good in spite of All beings part of the extension of Divine Consciousness and Oneness. In writing this though, it is important to understand that there are always rewards and chastisements for choices made as individual mortal entities whilst contained within this dimensional matrix structure.

Regarding GM foods, they are found to mutate cells, leading to cancers/bio-degeneration in studies performed on animals- though before I even studied a single word on GM foods prior, I was aware they are a disgusting abomonation on Earth (I am not saying this in arrogance, just to express the power of Holy Spirit to allow 'knowings' as occurred also with my feelings of 911 within the 1st week of events, among other 'conspirational' knowledge granted). These are bio-damaging Luciferian influenced technologies at work allowed via divine karmic allowance. This current degradation of the global food supply is a prime indicator of the current 'end times' of our age, for they cannot sustain life as intended by the Creators. This also applies to the worldwide corruption of the Earth's natural magnetic fields via worldwide cell phone towers and related technologies that many happily support/invest in for their 'conveniences' and personal gain, among many other Luciferian tools of corruption against the 'natural' life supporting creation. These highly damaging abomonations won't be around long, but they will have their 'time' to show mankind the consequences of our 'detached' state of spiritual disconnectedness as a mass consciousness. Who here can truly recognise the abundance of deceptions and 'trappings' in our daily life? I say whom truly seeks truly finds. The Holy Spirit greatly rewards true seekers for their efforts.

Ask yourself...and this is for all who read.
Do you have monies invested in any financial institution/s including insurance companies/stocks?
Do you use a cell phone or associated microwave technologies?
Do you drive a chemical polluting vehicle?
Any chemical products in the home--i.e detergents, make-up/beauty products, deodrants, sunscreens, colognes, shampoos, cleaners, bug repellants etc.
Have you worked for or purchase/consume products from any large corporate entity including foods/pharmaceuticals/energy or chemical polluting products?
ALL HARMFUL TO SUSTAINING EVOLUTION OF NATURAL CREATION LIVING SYSTEMS.
(I do not expect answers to these enquiries, just food for thought of our negative impacts on Earth and her natural living systems). Karma applies for such, though many may not be comfortable with this.

Anybody harbouring/embracing/financially or energetically investing in these 'tools' is WILFULLY supporting and EMPOWERING the establishment's spiritual manipulation and corruption of our own and wider mind/body/spirit system and the living Gaia as a whole. If mankind wilfully chose to seek and discern knowledge that is readily available (and knowing right from wrong within) to reject these corrupt Luciferian influenced applications that do not support the 'nurturing' within this Earth creation, then they would not possess the greater influence on the masses as they do today. However we often embrace their tools of 'convenience', giving in to their temptations daily whether we realise it or not. Karma is not avoided for these daily choices supporting the will of the 'Luciferic beast' allowed to test our will and it will be faced with not so pleasant coming events as part of the end cycle of this known age.

The truly good in heart with positive intentions will be provided the graces to not suffer through ordeals and/or be provided spiritual strength to remain and face challenges if meant to be so via the Grace of the Holy Spirit. The divine truly recognises the pure in heart and those whom truly wish to serve the 'good' will of the Holy Spirit and it's Creation. And there are certainly 'rewards' for devotion and faith in the 'good' of divine righteousness. Who can truly discern and in turn act on what is truly 'good'? It requires effort and responsibility that many lack 'as individuals'. We will all find our way eventually.

Are those who perform evil deeds here loved by the Creators? Yes, certainly.

Will they advance to the 'next grade level' of the evolutionary path. Not necessarily.

However lessons will be learned regardless and they are put in place out of a greater love for our eternal progression, which is not always easily accepted or understood by All in the Oneness here. Peace and may All be continually guided with the Graces of the Holy Spirit.

Originally posted by HarryJoy
Hidden Hand mentioned the possibilty of a future oppurtunity to ask more questions. I'm not sure if it will be necessary. Hidden hand or any other representative of that memory complex would have to maintain and or intensify confusion in order to maximize filtration. They could lead us into a deeper understanding and simultaneously create a deeper deception. The bottom line is that the creator is the only one that can walk the line between positive and negative energy and reap righteousness. "My sheep know My voice" the distinction between voices must grow ever more subtle in order to facilitate maximum filtration.

What do you mean by a "memory complex"? Please could you answer in plain english so it is more comprehensible.

reply to post by Annee

I have given you names in previous posts if you wish to explore non-duality.
Duality is the dream we live in this life time, until it is realized that there is no other.
Thoughts that appear from nowhere are like echos, that is all. No one is doing them, there is no one there. There is only awareness of sound. The endless chatter in the head is the suffering, but really who are we talking to? This other in the head we believe is real is the trouble maker. It is a frightened thing and it likes to be safe, not realizing that it is safe here and now. Unfortunately it only knows duality, so works with opposites, from past to future. Security can not be assured when dealing with past or future because we are not there. Here is where we are, the mind (which really only ever is is one thought at a time) can not function when you are truly present.
The crux is that we live in a world that says losing the mind is a bad thing. However, the mind is a great servant, but a terrible master.
When it is seen that a coin is heads and tails and can not be head without tail, it is no longer two. Some say it is not one or two. It just is.
Everything just is, everything!!
The world of duality comes from the mind, it tells you that this is bad, this is good. The mind only knows of opposites and completely misses the fact that you can not have one without the other.
Jumping from past to future, never seeing this moment. It is always this moment and thoughts,feelings and sensation arise presently. When else is there?
Life is here.
Because it is believed that there is other than this, which is duality; happiness, peace will always appear to be somewhere else or some when else.
There is no other time or place.
This is it.

reply to post by benedict9


I don't believe in karmic traps. Their efforts fall on the trappers, not the trappee's. We are living in a society where personal vehicles make the difference of having a job, getting groceries after working. For my chronic fatigue, the kids wouldn't go to school and we wouldn't have groceries without it, because I have to portion out the tasks carefully.

Since there is clean technology buried, this falls on the ones burying it. Clean vehicles have been around for decades. Including ones that run on water, and batteries that can pull loads on highway speeds for electric. Buried! The traps the elite lucifereans set for us, they fall in. Its the intent of your heart that is the thing that deals with karma. And forgiveness is way over karmas head, as Jesus/Yeshua said and modeled himself. I forgive everyone including the TPTB and encourage them to wake up and stop dealing with these negative channels anymore, for it's the intent of our hearts, and the ones setting the traps have a lot on their hands in that department, especially since they are relying on karma and not forgiveness, in their own beliefs.

I've been noticing the clean technology since childhood, when we used to read Omni and Science Digest. So the problems are solved, that they're NOT falls on the hand of these bad gusy.

And no, I don't have shares in GM. I don't use a microwave, I have a cell phone, but never get the cards for it, but if I travel long I do consider safety important. And I'm not a hypocrite, if I don't have the cell phone to phone road assistance, then I'm relying on a passerby who DOES to rescue us.

We don't live in different eras any longer.

I agree with the state of the world and food. I look for biologically friendly dish soap, and purchase makeup from the health food store, or from Revlon which stopped doing tests on animals in the 90's I believe.

I don't accept the karma dump. I place it back into the hands it belongs in.

What I am more concerned about is this: How can people take responsibility and speak up, like mature adults, to deal with these leaders, because they also need love. How do we negotiate and learn to be grown ups in participating in the leadership/management of our countries/world? In peaceful and responsible but effective ways.

The GM food and toxins is a very real issue, and a very big one.

Originally posted by spannera
HH: You will never be 'free', for as long as you are incarnating on this planet. The very nature of your being here, is indication of that. There is a reason why you are here, and 'here' is very likely not really where you think 'here' is. How do you become free? By working out where you are, and coming to an understanding, of why you are here [2]. You are fast running out of time to do so, before the coming Harvest. Those that don't make it, will have to repeat the cycle

Does anyone have any understanding of what this means? Why are we here and what does he mean when he states we are not where we think we are !!!!! ?

Way people responded to us is reason you are here, You fell from Grace are considered the Fallen Angels and remain here due to the continued failure in your lessons by ignoring those sent to inform you of correct knowledge and listening to foolish people who are running programs to keep you bound this thread is a good example of reason why people will repeat the cycle, we have seen very little in this thread ready for the next density as their perspectives are too dangerous to themself and others to be permited to enter less restrictive realms.

You can listen to unity or Leo and remain here if you like the decision is yours we gave you the tools to figure out the puzzle but you ignore us and because of it, your opportunity is almost over the most dangerous are always those who seems the most kind/compassion/loving for they are malipulating you by such wording 'tell one what they want to hear and they will listen' that is how the false light operates and why listening to the true family of light which the truth is not everyone is yet apart off, you have to work to become the light it not a default thing, but you have eternity to keep trying just at consequence of total wiping each time the cycle resets.

We are now only aiming to awaken further those in which Amenti says has potentional, hence why our interaction on this thread has been decreasing as it will continue to decrease as we move into 2011 and eventually wont be posting again for I have offline work to do next year.

Quorum
Adonai Christ bless

reply to post by Annee


Harvest means that the polarization of humanity is complete and the parameters of are conscious existence have served their purpose. it is time to reap the fruits of it. All humans on varying levels have utilized the various parameters and resulting circumstances of this life to either foster humility and love for others or to have fostered greed and selfishness. Service to others or service to self. When the variation of experiences possible within the established parameters (physical bodies in physical world with limited resources) reaches it's zenith it is time to harvest.

reply to post by HarryJoy


Yes, except its not the goal to be polarized. The real goal is to overcome the weaknesses we have, and live with love, integrity, and learn self control and good communications, forgiveness, compassion for all, and to lend a helping hand wherever one can. Because thats how we leave earth school and pass the tests. The purpose of all schools is for all students to graduate. So we need to wake up and try to fascillitate that awareness in others, who are living in their own paradigms and have their own spiritual beliefs, so this requires treating others and their beliefs with respect and dignity as well.

This thread shows how even the ones who believe in One have different opinions concerning "reality" and spirituality and those who don't as well. This is true for many attending Church as well, many have their own version of their Religion, or rationalization for the parts of their religious scriptures they feel uncomfortable with and don't like..

We are to shine our lights, and encourage and help. The goal is help others progress as well without intruding upon free will and practice good communication, how to respond with love and gentleness, and overcome our reactiveness and need to be "right" all the time.

But the idea of polarizing is another trap to me.

The true beauty of this school, as it is designed and intended, is not to convince another they are wrong, for it doesn't matter what religion or spiritual belief, or if one is agnostic or athiestic, it matters that one is learning unconditional love and trying to work on their weaknesses to overcome them and to share with others, try to help all we can, in many different ways, to walk in everyones moccasins. The positive, love and compassion model, to not judge, to forgive and assist, and overcome weaknesses is something that does not intrude upon anyone's spiritual beliefs save for those who are trying to be very negative in theirs.
It fits with all the different cultures, and religions and walks of life. Its Universal.

Here on this thread, we have an opportunity to discuss what deeply motivates us within more, is all. So we are sharing, and disagreeing a bit, but hopefully all are doing so with great respect and tolerance for each other. Because these are virtues we need in all our dealings to be grown ups in this world.

Originally posted by spannera

Originally posted by HarryJoy
Hidden Hand mentioned the possibilty of a future oppurtunity to ask more questions. I'm not sure if it will be necessary. Hidden hand or any other representative of that memory complex would have to maintain and or intensify confusion in order to maximize filtration. They could lead us into a deeper understanding and simultaneously create a deeper deception. The bottom line is that the creator is the only one that can walk the line between positive and negative energy and reap righteousness. "My sheep know My voice" the distinction between voices must grow ever more subtle in order to facilitate maximum filtration.

What do you mean by a "memory complex"? Please could you answer in plain english so it is more comprehensible.

imagine it as a file system in which stores your gathered lifetimes information as in the memory as a complex, think of idea of Amenti and Akashic record, hence it very easy to alter and delete and those who are above your density responsible for the cycle mantaining and evolution of souls will and do erase entire social memory complexs as need arise.

people denying this occurs does not prevent it occuring and makes it likely to happen to them we have seen that some in this very thread if do not alter direction within a year will indeed be repeating the cycle as they wont have enough time to learn by the year 2012 start, the opportunitys presented to you now will not be available soon. Many do not hear the voice because their cups are full with their own 'perspectives' believes and opinions hence they are to noisey to hear the call and they miss the boat.

we in compassion put ourself at risk by intermingling with lower vibrating individudals which their distortions affect us astrally but we do so to try acelerate their learning not always does this work and many times doe it leave us drained. We know all who are the true light beings on earth sent from higher densitys and can recognise by their words even or even a photo, we can say that in this thread their is not many and some are creating karma for themself for continuely disinformation after being warned it is disinformation, they have freewill of course and ego likes to put it point across but it will indeed lead to consequences.

When we speak to you we also speak to all who read it hence the message is for all who come across it, so dont take it personal. You are doing well by seeking answers but remember that part of seeking truth is to discern, for their is much hay to sort through.

Quorum
Adonai Christ bless

Originally posted by HarryJoy
reply to post by Annee

 

Harvest means that the polarization of humanity is complete and the parameters of are conscious existence have served their purpose. it is time to reap the fruits of it. All humans on varying levels have utilized the various parameters and resulting circumstances of this life to either foster humility and love for others or to have fostered greed and selfishness. Service to others or service to self. When the variation of experiences possible within the established parameters (physical bodies in physical world with limited resources) reaches it's zenith it is time to harvest.

Harvest is a opportunity of Ascension it can also be used to re-enter Heaven if a soul develops itself enough most will have to make a choice in polarity not many are capable of the path of Christ which is only way to enter 6th density directly, 4th density STO is a 1000year period which direct teaching from Christed races will help those who make it develop towards the harvest into 6th density the return to heaven becoming the true light.

Love isn't what people think it is that is process that takes place to give or take, sts or sto hence both polaritys have equal rights over love and light and can use it as please, so indeed love is all their is because all existence is choices manifested in form by mind; it is also the emotional and mental response as well as in relationships.

There is requirements to be understood as in certain cosmic laws must also be understood accepted and applied it not as simply as just being a good person as within a STS realm such actions are still STS in a context of the choice, to be pure in darkness is almost impossible but your not expected to be pure no one has ever been pure entire life but you can develop to a purer vibration this takes alot of work and effort in a realm such as your and most are to lazy or selfish to do such work.

So the harvest is also the time of judgement in which the Amenti Records shall be read and people will be placed based on these records and the decisions they made in life, however in warning of Holyspirit this represents those who denied directly the Truth given to them which is their salvation hence if Servers are ignored as known in gnosis people are then not eliable to transcend in density and must repeat as well.

Quorum
Adonai Christ bless

With all teachers and paths...one must read between the lines. You must ask yourself...is this so called teacher on 'service to others' path or a 'service to self' path?

Dont let all the static in the message mislead you. What are they living for? Who is their final intention for?

Is it for others? Are they willing to offer their selves for the ALL...without worry of what happens to 'the self', the individual they think they are?

Or is their final step...to reap rewards and rest and glory.....for themselves?

One does not raise their vibration in pointing out others wrongs....they DO NOT raise their vibration by judging others for WHAT THEY KNOW NOT!

And as you find their true face....forgive them. Dont recast the judgment. In your mind, embrace them. For your thoughts will reach to the vibration of heaven and will help them at some time in their 'phase' of being.

They will say they want to spread the message so others reach harvest. But you must ask....why are they seeking harvest or ascension anyways! For they live for the self...and this path is limited. Its not wrong....but yet in their path, they absorb glory for self and pride for the 'self'.

We are all expressions of God in some way. None is better or less then. A speaker of Spirit is going to love and be humble, not come with fear and warnings....as if Thee's expression and design of life is not perfect and needs a man to intervene for Gods will to become.

Raising your vibration can happen right now...It is something that could always happen and will always be able to happen.

There are many 'ideas' that come to mankind....like salvation for self or ascension for self. You must look with in and ask yourself...what would such paths really truly serve?

Again...this path is not wrong...but make sure you know what you are serving...as you seek something. Know what path you walk.

Things like 'raising ones vibration' happens more naturally then not. There can be non believers, believers of many faiths, its about your intent as a being amongst other beings and other life.

When you see God in all life...there is no reason to wish to 'leave' 'here'. For what? For 'self' glory? Will you forget all the others that still suffer, forget, need love, need another to look at and see God within another eyes.

This is my limited understanding after walking the path of seeking salvation, after walking the path thinking I came here for 'harvest'....after thinking I was here to help others ascend as well. I have walked these paths and all I can say is that the Spirit shown me they were paths that I sought, for my 'self'. I was not truly understanding what 'service to others' meant. And the materials and channeled materials and religions materials....are all made in a way to where if you are only reading the surface...you will only see so much. These 'ideas' are actually 'tools' to weigh you and measure you....beyond your wildest imagination. The 'vibrations' these materials and channel's picks up from you in your choices and your intentions, is really mind blowing. As your mind decides what parts/ideas/paths its attracted to....your mind complex is getting weighed, sifted, and measured.

As you think its all just up to you....your very intentions and what you are attracted to shows the Spirit where you still are attached and what you are still in need of for becoming a perfect expression of Thee.

We are a 'whole' we are not individuals....and this very difference of the way you see what you are or not...is going to make your decision/choice be what it is.

Again, this is my limited understanding

reply to post by LeoVirgo

Is it for others? Are they willing to offer their selves for the ALL...without worry of what happens to 'the self', the individual they think they are?

Or is their final step...to reap rewards and rest and glory.....for themselves?

We're not here as sacrificial functions. We're eternal souls, and true progression is a balanced love for others and self, giving and taking, sharing joy and happiness with others. It is also to find our talents and skills, and develop and use them, to provide for self and family as well, basically, its a win/win.

It's more about balance than an all out sacrifice of self.

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by LeoVirgo

 

Is it for others? Are they willing to offer their selves for the ALL...without worry of what happens to 'the self', the individual they think they are?

Or is their final step...to reap rewards and rest and glory.....for themselves?

We're not here as sacrificial functions. We're eternal souls, and true progression is a balanced love for others and self, giving and taking, sharing joy and happiness with others. It is also to find our talents and skills, and develop and use them, to provide for self and family as well, basically, its a win/win.

It's more about balance than an all out sacrifice of self.

Walking the path of Jesus can show you what the worth of offering of self can do. He saw the illusion....knew only ONE was good...and learned that the life of 'self' was not the life worth living or fighting for.

If you are not ready for such....then of course, you should not seek such. You know that you are still loved and if that was a pth that you will eventually be brought to see...you know it will happen naturally.

I dont bring this as a 'judge' to your path....but for those that will resonate with what I have understood. If one has no resonation with what I say....they SHOULD disregard it, and not worry with it, be who you feel you need to be right now.

All is well Follow your heart.

reply to post by LeoVirgo


I truly am following my heart, and have my connections within, and its not as hard or complicating as it sounds, for its dealing with our lives to the best of our abililty, overcoming our weaknesses and reactiveness, choosing mildness, and truly to shine our lights. Its not about finding a self deleting pathway.

We are eternal souls, in progression, in infinity, and we are blessed with so many good things, senses, taste, talents, a sense of beauty, appreciation for nature, and sexuality even, that we are meant to enjoy, for we are here to balance our needs and wishes with the needs and wishes of others too, and to share, to give and receive joy and love, to shine light and happiness. We're here encourage self esteem and worth, and happiness in all. And we do it by recognizing this need in ourselves as well. Its all about balance. We're to strive to change ourselves and overcome the world, and this austerity and low value to self and life, to me is a very big trap, coming from gnostic really. Instead we should strive to overcome the pride, greed, wealth, popularity, violence, and discord, and overcome our weaknesses which we can see in our own lives, to behave as if we are already living in a eutopia. In other words, we progress here, we reach the next level by striving to live as we envision those in eutopias do.

Our Selves count very much too, as does everyone's Selves. Its about a win/win, and true love for everyone.

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by LeoVirgo

 

I truly am following my heart, and have my connections within, and its not as hard or complicating as it sounds, for its dealing with our lives to the best of our abililty, overcoming our weaknesses and reactiveness, choosing mildness, and truly to shine our lights. Its not about finding a self deleting pathway.

We are eternal souls, in progression, in infinity, and we are blessed with so many good things, senses, taste, talents, a sense of beauty, appreciation for nature, and sexuality even, that we are meant to enjoy, for we are here to balance our needs and wishes with the needs and wishes of others too, and to share, to give and receive joy and love, to shine light and happiness. We're here encourage self esteem and worth, and happiness in all. And we do it by recognizing this need in ourselves as well. Its all about balance. We're to strive to change ourselves and overcome the world, and this austerity and low value to self and life, to me is a very big trap, coming from gnostic really. Instead we should strive to overcome the pride, greed, wealth, popularity, violence, and discord, and overcome our weaknesses which we can see in our own lives, to behave as if we are already living in a eutopia. In other words, we progress here, we reach the next level by striving to live as we envision those in eutopias do.

Our Selves count very much too, as does everyone's Selves. Its about a win/win, and true love for everyone.

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Gnosis is not entirely the gnostic perspective it is a purer form in which because you deny it specific principles you are repeating no nice words you say are going to change this, you have been warned directly through a conduit opening to allow it to occur and you choose to deny the cosmic laws this has been marked in book of life 'Amenti' and in the moment of timelessness will you become aware of your transgressions and reasons why you must repeat the 3rd density cycle once more, we have told you, you are actually a disinformation operative being used by the very beings you recently became aware of cause we showed it to you by showing you some proper knowledge which lights up darkness hence can see whats there you choose to see this as we brought it to you but it was already there and it is because you are ignorant 'in darkness' this was a opportunity for you to alter a outcome but you refused it and went back into your distortions 'programming' which will lead to your destruction and those around you who listen to you.

more gnosis:

POPULAR SPIRITUAL MOVEMENTS

Q. It is no secret today that a great multitude of people are very actively engaged in meditations for world-peace and a miscellany of other efforts to improve world conditions. Are these groups all deluded?

A. There is much truth interwoven in the writings and messages of so many well-intentioned groups and dualistic works on Earth at this time. But tainted instruments (i.e., personalities harboring fear, selfishness, etc.) cannot - I repeat cannot - be utilized for any divine work - ever. However, they can and are being used today everywhere, especially in synergetic world-meditations, by the archons and aeons.

I would remind you of what is said about 'mixed magnetisms' in Servers of the Divine Plan :

Mental and emotional handicaps such as fear, pride, selfishness, etc., even if maintained upon subconscious levels, will hold the group vibration down, reduce the group's radiatory field and attract like energies to the intended work, thus restricting the potential of the group's positive spiritual effect. Mixed motivations yield variables that may easily prevent a positive synergy. If members are thinking of themselves in any way; if they possess personal vanity, such as might show itself in the desire to shine or to take a prominent part in the proceedings; if they have any selfish motivations for joining the group, however subtle, or if they have not wholly and selflessly consecrated themselves to the Work of Christ, then they constitute a weak link. Such individuals must grasp the fact that they join, not to receive, but to give; not to be interested and amused, but to take their share in a great Work for the good of the planetary life. A genuine love of that life and of humanity is the one credential that will qualify affiliation within the ranks of Servers, nothing less .

Now, you may wish to ask yourself what percentage of those who join the very popular meditations and invocations open to all and sundry today have truly pure motives? How many of these participants love the Truth and Christ with all their being, and what percentage are likely to have some ulterior motives for being part of such a public ceremony?

As I have recently assured you, if something is popular on this planet of darkness and ignorance, then it cannot possibly be Divine. Remember this always.

Divine invocation in groups is a very advanced work. It cannot be done by just anyone. Initiates have trained for lifetimes in order to earn the honor and ability of partaking in such work. Now, a person does not attain Initiate status simply because he is alive on Earth at this time and because he is invited to partake in large ceremonies!

The vast majority of new age messages and invitations today bear not the vibration of holiness. Mostly, the plethora of channelled information that is now readily available in the world, at the expense of gullible humanity, is derived from astral entities of dubious spiritual standing, and often from beings who are far more sinister. Global ceremonies open to all always produce ether bleedings that feed the archons and aeons, while simultaneously allowing dark intelligences to infiltrate the personal consciousness of those who take part ever more deeply. This opens up a doorway to the lower invisible planes so that undivine entities and forces may enter this world.

Why do you think that Jesus first had a carefully-selected inner circle of 12, a middle circle of 72 and an interested 500? Jesus would never have called together thousands of secularly-minded people to partake in a sacred work, even if he had the worldwide communications that we have today. He knew far better than that. However, the antichrist has no hesitation in using any personality vehicle in order to extend his dominion of the physical world. The antichrist has been preparing for the long-prophesied battle of Armageddon for thousands of years, and he knows well how to deceive the gullible 'lightworkers'. "At the time of the end even the wise will be led astray." - Jesus.

May I once again urge you to eliminate all non-essentials from your life, which includes the vast amount of useless messages and information that are coming your way in order to distract you from the straight and narrow Path.

Quorum
Adonai Christ bless

reply to post by AdonaiChristBless


I love you ACB, no matter what spiritual beliefs we differ on, however, the message you have been sharing has not hit my heart or activated my inner truth within, but respect and love you and value all of our freedoms to express ourselves. I have noticed, love and free thinking tends to bring harsher posts from you, and wondered what why that is, what is being triggered there.

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by LeoVirgo

 

I truly am following my heart, and have my connections within, and its not as hard or complicating as it sounds, for its dealing with our lives to the best of our abililty, overcoming our weaknesses and reactiveness, choosing mildness, and truly to shine our lights. Its not about finding a self deleting pathway.

We are eternal souls, in progression, in infinity, and we are blessed so many good things, that we are meant to enjoy, for we are here to balance our needs and wishes with the needs and wishes of others too, and to share, to give and receive joy and love, to shine light and happiness. We're here encourage self esteem and worth, and happiness in all. And we do it by recognizing this need in ourselves as well. Its all about balance. We're to strive to change ourselves and overcome the world, and this austerity and low value to self and life, to me is a very big trap, coming from gnostic really, but the pride, greed, wealth, popularity, violence, and discord, and overcome our weaknesses which we can see in our own lives, to behave as if we are already living in a eutopia. In otherwords, we progress here, we reach the next level by striving to live as we envision those in eutopias do.

Our Selves count very much too, as does everyone's Selves. Its about a win/win, and true love for everyone.

edit on 30-10-2010 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)

Our paths lead us in different directions and Im not here to debate it with you and appreciate in the past all the great interaction we have had between our two paths and sharing that. I am sorry if it frustrates you....but I dont see you as a self at all in your own right...I see you as a part of a ONE TRUE SELF who is having a unique expression through 'you'.

As a whole, only one can see the worth in this perspective. As a 'separate' one will not see the worth of this perspective.

Just as a group of ants work as 'one' and as nature works together as one...begin together, larger expressions of something greater...so to are we working towards something similar.

One person on their own can not change the world...only ALL together, united, can change the world.

The divine design is all around us, showing us, a bigger picture. If we wish to remain in that 'idea' of being 'separate' from others...then that is what you should follow.

You say you know this is all an illusion, but cling to the very illusion that you are experiencing. Your desires lead you and lead us all....and until we chase all of those desires and see we still thirst, that something is still needed, can one consider the possibility of being more then just a separate self. As long as you desire to be a 'self' that is what you will create. To think...is to create.

I can only advise that many say they seek within...but all have different answers. It seems that the ones that are willing to offer themselves back to ONENESS are the only ones receiving a 'similar understanding' amongst eachother.

Plus...I can not deny my experience while I was seeking this 'holy spirit' that I feel we all share. To understand that this Spirit was within you, me, all life...was much more humbling then my path of desiring to keep being a 'self'.

I dont see this about learning as much as I see it as a processing of becoming a perfect expression.

Like I have said...if none of this resonates within you, then dont worry with it. It doesnt change my love for you as a unique expression of 'being'.