WikiLeaks Posts Mysterious 'Insurance' File

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
Interesting interview, won't let you download.

www.ted.com...

I saw it when it came out a couple of weeks ago. Good interview.

And yes, its possible to download. Just click the Download button under the video.


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The best explanation of it I've read is native american and s. american's story of either the left heart/right heart or condor/eagle. One side (left, condor) is emotional, intuitive, empathetic, and wise. The other (eagle, right) is clever, strong, materialistic, cold and calculating. Right/left is individual, eagle/condor is society wide. They hope that even though the eagle side (europe, all empires) almost wiped out the condor side (indigenous people, tribes)l that both sides can manage to exist together. The 'elites' are invariably the eagle/right side. They are also very arrogant. They worship human capability, the other side knows its limits, and is wiser.

the guy from the other website ... young something, he is pissed with wikileaks since they got rid of him in the beginning of the project

he did an interview with alex jones saying basically that he believes they want to sell information to the black market





he guy looks like he is freeaking jealous of wikileaks

but lets agree, Assange looks like the perfect PR man ...

Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
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Simply breathtaking insurance policy. Oh man, if only we knew what was in it.

THESEARENTTHEDROIDSYOURELOOKINGFOR plus 1.4 gb of random noise.

But can the People Who Care really be really sure?

That isn't the real insurance policy.

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What, do people really think geek is a cutdown anymore?

I thought the enlightened people of the computer age think jock is a cutdown.

reply to post by muzzleflash


Sorry your research is poor.

AES is only as strong as the password used to secure the data. To properly secure it against a brute force attack you need to use a 20+ character password, using upper and lower case, numbers and symbols in random combinations.

I find it interesting how wikileaks talks about releasing things, a couple of months go by and they then relase it, suggesting they have cracked the password on the data.

Understand that it depends upon the amount of computing power used. Distributed networks can accumulate more computing power than a supercomputer! It's possible to crack a 9 digit alpha numeric password within 40 days using a large distributed brute force attack.

Or maybe the people securing the data got really lazy and a dictionary attack worked.

Originally posted by Libertygal


leakmirror.__._/file/straw-glass-and-bottle/insurance.aes256

I don't know why, but this intrigued me.

Straw man

Straw man

From the link

Noun

straw man (plural straw men)

1. A doll or scarecrow.

2. An insubstantial concept, idea, or endeavor.

3. Something, such as an argument, deliberately set up weakly supported, so that it can be easily knocked down; especially to impugn the strength of any related thing or idea.

4. An innocuous person or someone of nominal or lesser importance, as a front man or straw boss. compare straw poll, straw shoe, straw vote.

Link

Originally posted by Libertygal

glass house

Possibly from the saying "People in glass houses should not throw stones" meaning: People who have a fault should not criticize others for having that same fault.

Originally posted by Libertygal

bottle ?

Bottle in the UK and possibly Australian can mean "courage" as in "That person has a lot of bottle" (courage)


So....Straw Man...Glass House...Bottle.

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www.infowars.com...

this just resumes the arrogance by the us government

they cant say anything ... if THEY didnt want to offer resources to protect their informants ... they dont deserve to be heard ...




very good video

www.abc.net.au...

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The trouble i have with this, is that if a submitter posts a file to wikileaks, they should be getting it out there if it is credible, not holding it back as insurance?

If assange is on the level then that's great for us, but this makes me doubt the legitimacy a little.

Not to mention i believe if certain interests really wanted him gone, he would be - and surely government supercomputers could crack this in 24hrs or less. Also now it's 'in play' someone else will eventually break it.

The only plausible scenario I can think of if it's a bluff and the file is worthless, merely a play to make some breathing space?

Oh edit: it could also be the other part of the cables and he may use them to protect manning?

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I think this 1.4GB may be the data from manning that they dont want released in any way possible

who knows

other great article

We should be thankful for WikiLeaks
By Roy Greenslade, Special to CNN

We Should be thankful for WIKILEAKS -CNN

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Insurance file. Means to me that I acknowledge your ability to reach out and touch me. Just so you know that IF you do I will piss on you from the hereafter.

Too right.

Only, i see it more as saying IF you come after me/us, i will throw BUCKETS of piss on you from on high.

There HAS to be something extremely big and secret contained in the file.

It is certain to be information that the US will do almost anything to prevent getting out to the public, including putting up with the leaks regarding the Wars the US is involved with in Iraq and Afghanistan, and sitting on it's hands.

The information is probably not connected to wrongdoings in either of the wars. It is probably something MUCH more problematic and damaging to the US than a few revelations of bombing innocents and so on...if it were to do with war crimes, the US would simply say something like 'War is hell...sometimes mistakes are made, and innocents suffer...we're sorry etc. etc.'

Not exactly insurance against assassination, if they can simply shake it off easily.

It has to be something profound.

ET...Advanced energy generation...secret space...assassinations of foreign government personnel...CFR...asteroid impacts...you name it, but it will be something big, and something that they cannot wriggle out of with a few platitudes and apologies.

Very interesting.

ETA..Of course, it could all be a massive bluff on Assanges' part.
There may be nothing of value in the file at all.

But, with the secrets a power like the US must harbour in dark and dusty corners, could the US afford to call that bluff..if it is one?

One thing is certain though...there is going to be a LOT of supercomputer time allotted to working on this file, in more than one alphabet agency as i type.

Very clever move.

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didn't i tell you he'd do something like this a while back? don't say i didn't say i told you so.

this is all a scheme for his credibility, the next guy that comes to him with classified information will never be seen again and nobody would know about it.

Originally posted by DOADOA
didn't i tell you he'd do something like this a while back? don't say i didn't say i told you so.

this is all a scheme for his credibility, the next guy that comes to him with classified information will never be seen again and nobody would know about it.

very possible

for some evil agency, that would be a great idea .... actually they would do it without any problem and would get a lot of people



WikiLeaks founder vows more leaks


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Assange scared to die? ALL the time!

lol, very good history hhahahhaha

reply to post by fraggdya


This is what i'm thinking.

The government should be able to crack the encryption sooner or later, so they are going to know what is in it.

This goes against it being a bluff actually, when you think about it..as Assange would expect the US to crack the code and read the content, BUT the average Joe public wouldn't be able to.

So, therein lies the beauty of it. Assange says this is what we have on you...and now millions of people around the world have the information too...all we have to do is give the public a key...

This is going to be a revelation one way or another. If the US behaves itself, and doesn't go for Assange, the public will know they are hiding something very big indeed. If they go for him and the key is released, the public will know the details of the 'something'.

Looks like Assange has the US by the nuts. Dammed if they don't do anything, very dammed if they do.



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This may be a silly question but has anyone downlaoded the file yet? Or thought about it?

I know that sometimes people on ATS save website caches in case they are deleted? Have I got that right? If thats right how do you save a website ans then open it again if it ahs been removed?

Anyways should one downlaod the insurance file in case a key is released i nthe future or soemthing? Or do you thing it could harm your computer or have some other negative effect.

What do you think?

reply to post by muzzleflash


Hell yes. If wikileaks is an NSA front I hope they [SNIP] the [SNIP] out of the corrupt federal government and corporate rule. Also, this is a good move.

And wikileaks is doing an important job, holding the federal government accountable. If there was nothing to hide, then they wouldn't be afraid, would they? If they were doing nothing wrong, then they wouldn't need to worry, would they? If the public thinks that killing innocent journalists is an acceptable risk to war, then so be it. But the public deserves the facts. It is going to be heroes like Wikileaks that keep the United States government from such atrocities as locking up and killing its own citizens one day.

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Originally posted by fraggdya
The trouble i have with this, is that if a submitter posts a file to wikileaks, they should be getting it out there if it is credible, not holding it back as insurance?

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I'm sure lot of people are thinking this.

I think this has really moved beyond anything to do with Wikileaks. A lot of this seems to be about truth. Letting the truth out. If Wiki and Assange are successful there should be no need for them in the future. So its not as if this info is being held back to help Wiki get bigger and better. I think Wikileaks have a limited lifetime. If they were to keep this up they would be wiped out by those they are exposing. So its all or nothing.

I'm guessing they have told the American government to come clean. They want the gov to tell the public themselves. The US government responded by telling their lapdogs in the media to portray Assange as someone with blood on his hands. They were talking about charging him with treason and murder on 'FOX' yesterday. Good work FOX.The US gov are refusing to play ball and have now responded and said all they can do is appeal to wikileaks not to publish anymore files.

WRONG ANSWER

Assange has responded by posting the insurance file and told them they are on their last warning.

Assange to Obama 'Spill it, or I will.'

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Ha I wonder if there is 9/11 information in there or even extra-terrestrial info. No matter what, it is about truth. And truth is good.